Suzanne Venker: "To be Catholic and vote for Democrats in 2020 is just wrong"

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I have not seen an MD on the ballot at a national level???

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o_mlly said:
Fr. Frank Pavone
National Director, Priests for Life
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After the atrocity in the last election, where the body of a child was used as a political prop, exploited on an altar, Fr Pavone needs our prayers as it appears his judgment has been somewhat impared.
 
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No, I did not say that he created this thread. He did not create this thread.

I said he had created another thread that was very questionable. It used a word in the title and all through the first post that is verboten on this forum. The mods have deleted that thread as well.
 
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President Trump has asked me to co-chair the Pro-Life Voices for Trump Advisory Board. Priests for Life Executive Director Janet Morana and Evangelist Alveda King, full-time director of our Civil Rights for the Unborn outreach, also serve on the board. Our purpose is to educate all voters about the pro-life progress that has been made under the Trump Administration
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So, a priest on Trump’s staff wants to tell voters what Trump has done. I do not understand the importance of this. I looked over the list, and calling it pro-life is using the Republican definition of the word. It is all about abortion, not pro-life, of which abortion is but one element. This use of the term is what leads the pro-life movement to be seen in a hypocritical life, pro-birth, not pro-life.
 
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There is nothing confusing in what I said at the time I said it. You trying to read it two days later when the posts and thread in question have been deleted is causing you to be confused. I would suggest you please adjust to this, as it happens on many threads where the moderators delete a number of flagged posts or threads, and we cannot be adjusting our posting to anticipate what a moderator might do.

Muting this thread now. Have a nice day
 
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Ms. Venker is just pointing out that the Democratic Party has long since turned itself into the party of abortion. There is no room for those who are pro-life, Catholics in particular.
 
Hmm blue collar workers love President Trump.They are gainfully employed so how does this equate with your comments?
 
“ * Let us remember that justice must be observed even to the lowest. (Latin: Meminerimus autem etiam adversus infimos iustitiam esse servandam ) (I, 41)” - Cicero
 
TheLittleLady said:
USCCB website offers the official version of all of their documents.
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but they can be misinterpreted. if you notice the pope references the world when he makes his statements whereas the situation is different in the USA. for example per Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann of Kansas City, Kansas,
Naumann told Catholic News Service (CNS) that the Pope agreed with the U.S. bishops “identifying the protection of the unborn as a preeminent priority.”

Naumann reported that Pope Francis was then “truly kind of stunned” when Naumann told him that an estimated 61 million abortions have taken place in the United States.
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Bishop W. Shawn McKnight of Jefferson City, Missouri, who was present at this week’s ad limina meeting at the Vatican reported that regarding abortion, Pope Francis “simply reiterated what he’s already said in many different ways,” that “without life, what other rights are there? So, you have to begin with that.
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The problem I have is that the Republicans aren’t much better. I am afraid that they will take away my citizenship.
 
When was the last time anyone lost actual citizenship for anything other than joining a terror group or some other equally felonious and egregious action?
 
TheLittleLady said:
After the atrocity in the last election, where the body of a child was used as a political prop, exploited on an altar, Fr Pavone needs our prayers as it appears his judgment has been somewhat impared.
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I thought the poster to whom I responded wanted facts, not opinions. Got any facts?
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So, a priest on Trump’s staff wants to tell voters what Trump has done. I do not understand the importance of this. I looked over the list, and calling it pro-life is using the Republican definition of the word. It is all about abortion, not pro-life, of which abortion is but one element. This use of the term is what leads the pro-life movement to be seen in a hypocritical life, pro-birth, not pro-life.
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Ditto.
 
Facts? I will point out to you that this discussion, though posted as news, is an opinion-based editorial. And I did give a fact. Fr. Pavone’s article on what the President’s commission on pro-life only contained articles about abortion, that is, pro-birth, ignoring what the Catholic Church has listed as other pro-life concerns.

Also, the other poster did give a fact, with the stunt staged by Fr. Pavone. Now this might be an ad hominem, stating that the information is wrong based on the character of the person who wrote it. That is why I took the approach instead of mentioning that it is a political ad, even if it is not called that. A Trump appointee wrote about Trump and all the good Trump has done from a Trump perspective. Spin is to be anticipated.

I know that the president calls any news he does not life fake. I will not be lulled into his blindness by saying facts are only facts if they prop his image up.
 
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Dr_Meinheimer said:
When was the last time anyone lost actual citizenship for anything other than joining a terror group or some other equally felonious and egregious action?
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That has never happened, but then we have never had a president like Donald Trump before be electable. It is not unreasonable to sense a negative shift in the direction America is going, or a positive shift, if you like his beliefs. Nonetheless, I understand why the poster might be concerne.
 
That is a lovely happening. However, it is not stating that because of legal abortion “the United States of America, is under God’s WRATH, and the only thing that is keeping our nation in existance is the prayers of millions of Christians and Jews* who plead with God to have mercy on us.”

What was stated is a Protestant teaching that stems on the errant idea that the USA is somehow the replacement for the ancient land of the Hebrews.
  • Note, Jewish law not only allows abortion but insists the mother abort if her health is in jeopardy.
 
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