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[AlbMagno]

the forum can be an echo chamber of confirmation bias.

Thanks, someone had to say it.

 

[Aquinas11]

But get your facts straight, it was a weasel, not a piglet.

Ok so let’s clear the record

A video in a blog discussing a woman nursing a child is “strange”

But a photo in a Church showing a woman nursing a weasel is not.

 

[Aquinas11]

It’s not a circular argument.

saying we should only listen to solid Catholic sources but should listen to a non-solid Catholic source (opinions in this thread arbitrarily defining what is a “good Catholic source” vs “complainers”) is a circular argument.

There are so many good orthodox Catholic sources. For instance
Word on Fire,

Good orthodox Catholic sources don’t say we have a reasonable hope that all men are saved, particularly when Lady Fatima showed souls falling into hell like snowflakes and Jesus said some “shall go into everlasting punishment”

 

[Crusader13]

What has he said or taught from his books and articles isn’t based on authentic Catholic teaching and tradition?

 

[goout]

goout:

It’s not a circular argument.

saying we should only listen to solid Catholic sources but should listen to a non-solid Catholic source (opinions in this thread arbitrarily defining what is a “good Catholic source” vs “complainers”) is a circular argument.

There are so many good orthodox Catholic sources. For instance
Word on Fire,

Good orthodox Catholic sources don’t say we have a reasonable hope that all men are saved, particularly when Lady Fatima showed souls falling into hell like snowflakes and Jesus said some “shall go into everlasting punishment”

Please correct me if I am wrong.
I hear you saying that Word on Fire, which is headed by Bp Robert Barron, is teaching heterodox belief.
That’s what I hear you saying above. Am I hearing well or are you saying something else? Maybe you didn’t mean to aim the accusation specifically at Word On Fire?

 

[Aquinas11]

Please correct me if I am wrong.
I hear you saying

I’ll take that as a concession its a circular argument and Word on Fire not a good Orthodox Source, since you chose not to discuss the substance of the argument, but just use a strawman.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

In our parish, literally (in the most rigid sense of the word literally) no-one talks about this fellow and literally no-one is concerned about female altar servers.

Well I guess if you are speaking for all the people in your parish - okay, then I have no argument. I dont know the people in your parish

 

[goout]

I realize that. However, go back and read the numerous articles regarding women serving at the altar. Pope JP2, said the same thing regarding that issue and three years later that was changed.

I’m not comforted by the words of Pope Francis. Especially lately with how he’s been handling this synod and the idols.

I’m not comforted either. And my comfort level is utterly irrelevant.

What in your mind is the point of the Catholic Church, it’s good end, the meaning and purpose of it?
Is it to make your individual viewpoint rest comfortably on your shoulders?

 

[goout]

goout:

Please correct me if I am wrong.
I hear you saying

I’ll take that as a concession its a circular argument and Word on Fire not a good Orthodox Source, since you chose not to discuss the substance of the argument, but just use a strawman.

I gave you a direct response, and asked you a direct question.
Are you willing to confirm your accusation that Word on Fire is teaching heterodox belief?

 

[JimmyDFG]

Pope JP2, said the same thing regarding that issue and three years later that was changed.

What was changed regarding to what pope John Paul 2 said?
“the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women” and that his “judgement is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful”

 

[Gab123]

So we need to stop accusing everyone who disagrees with the Pope as being another Martin Luther. Happens frequently here at CAF, and is just meant to be an insult. We are allowed to disagree with the Pope on things that are not infallible teaching.

It’s not meant as an insult; it’s meant as a red flag. Spreading false narratives built on gossip, misrepresentations and emotional obsessions are a recipe for disaster for him and those he influences. It’s a clear pattern seen many times before in history; every heresy and schism in the history of the a Church has always come from Catholics inside the Church who thought themselves wiser, and especially take aim at the pope.
T.M. has already begun asking the question wether Pope Francis is a legitimate pope.

One has to comprehend that Satan is incredibly tricky, and as the spirit of division he especially fools and grooms people inside the Church to become mouthpieces of false narratives and slander…

Isnt that what most reporters do?

He’s a reporter? I would say more like a businessman; he sells lots of his products on his channel. It’s interesting how his instructional videos on solid Catholicism, which by the way are great, mostly get few views compared to his sensational headlines videos. So the temptation to sensationalism is also there.

 

[TheBomb.Com]

No, not everyone who criticizes Pope Francis is Martin Luther 2.0. Where has Taylor Marshal said that?

I really wonder what historians will say when they look back on this Pontificate.

 

[JimmyDFG]

And then there are the ones Taylor Marshall says are “intellectually bankrupt.”

 

[Gab123]

Ok so let’s clear the record

A video in a blog discussing a woman nursing a child is “strange”

But a photo in a Church showing a woman nursing a weasel is not

Two separate issues. Claiming to have a mystical vision and becoming increasingly anti-pope while seemingly going through an emotional middle-of the night crisis challenging the pope, while building a false narrative, is spiritually strange. He’s becoming the king of false narratives, interpreting the pope in the worst possible way. For example how he misrepresented Pope Francis’ call to not proselytize.

As for the native woman nursing her child and a weasel as part of a display inside a Catholic Church, about how some Amazonian tribes live in the context of a synod about the Amazon, is much different than Marshall’s accusation that the Church is adopting the worship of false idols.

 

[JimmyDFG]

For me it’s his criticism towards others that don’t share his brand of Catholicism

 

[TheBomb.Com]

What is his brand of Catholicism?

 

[Gab123]

I really wonder what historians will say when they look back on this Pontificate.

Obviously It depends on what historian. As for Salvation History, I think it’s impact will be a renewal of the Church’s authentic mission to evangelize and live the gospel in the world; not merely to sacramentalize people, but to evangelize people, and a renewed interest in the Bible as the primary guide for conversion in the light of the authentic teachings of the Church, within the current age in the context of Vatican II.

 

[TheBomb.Com]

What does “sacramentalize” mean? I agree we need to evangelize better. I mean, look at the evangelicals.

 

[Aquinas11]

going through an emotional middle-of the night crisis

sounds far worse than putting a photo of naked woman breastfeeding a weasel in Holy Vatican Church

 

[RogueSemicolon]

The Church allowed Communion on the Hand, but we can all agree that was a mistake, right?

In Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger’s book, God is Near Us, he addresses several objections made to how the Eucharistic celebration has developed since the Last Supper in the Catholic Church. Among these objections is the appropriate manner in which to receive Communion. He urges priests to “exercise tolerance and to recognize the decision of each person” and to not “cast aspersions on anyone who may have opted for this or that way of doing it." And then explains further:

But you will ask: Is tolerance the proper answer here? Or is it not misplaced with respect to this most holy thing? Well, here again we know that until the ninth century Communion was received in the hand, standing. That does not of course mean that it should always be so. For what is fine, sublime, about the Church is that she is growing, maturing, understanding the mystery more profoundly. In that sense the new development that began in the ninth century is quite justified, as an expression of reverence, and is well-founded. But, on the other hand, we have to say that the Church could not possibly been celebrating the Eucharist unworthily for nine hundred years.

If we read what the Fathers say, we can see in what a spirit of reverence they received Communion. We find a particularly fine passage in the writings of Cyril of Jerusalem, from the fourth century. In his catechetical homilies he tells the candidates for baptism what they should do at Communion. They should make a throne of their hands, laying the right upon the left to form a throne for the King, forming at the same time a cross. This symbolic gesture, so fine and so profound, is what concerns him: the hands of man form a cross, which becomes a throne, down into which the King inclines himself. The open outstretched hand can thus become a sign of the way for him, that they may become an instrument of his presence and a throne of his mercies in this world. Anyone who reflects on this will recognize that on this point it is quite wrong to argue about this or that form of behavior. We should be concerned only to argue in favor of what the Church’s efforts were directed toward, both before and after the ninth century, that is, a reverence in the heart, an inner submission before the mystery of God that puts himself into our hands. Thus we should not forget that not only our hands are impure but also our tongue and also our heart and that we often sin more with the tongue that with the hands. God takes an enormous risk–and at the same time this is an expression of his merciful goodness–in allowing not only our hands and our tongue but even our heart to come into contact with him. We see this is the Lord’s willingness to enter into us and live with us, within us, and to become from within the heart of our life and the agent of its transformation.

(God is Near Us, Ignatius Press, 2003, pp. 69-71)