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[MagdalenaRita]

Father Ripperger has had talks and videos before on the traditionalist movement and some of the problems therein. He is not in anyway advocating Catholics to stop following the traditions of the Church or encouraging the progressive movement of today, which has it’s own set of problems. Fr. Ripperger has also given many talks on the problems and crisis in the Church in general also, which includes all Catholics.
Father Ripperger is an awesome light and guide.

 

[JimmyDFG]

My posted got flagged when I posted of Marshall and … Mother Church

 

[Emeraldlady]

He is not in anyway advocating Catholics to stop following the traditions of the Church or encouraging the progressive movement of today.

I wasn’t suggesting that. Just responding to an insinuation that somehow traditionalist forms of Mass and worship signify more holiness in and of themselves. The only problem at all that I find with traditionalists is all the very things pointed out by Fr Ripperger. It’s a turn off to encounter angry, nasty, uncharitable people who mistakenly think those things are the good fruit of traditionalism.

I especially will never come near traditionalism as long as they call the authority of the Pope into question. I would rather have a millstone tied around my neck and be thrown into the Tiber than ever undermine papal authority to teach her children.

 

[Aquinas11]

I would rather have a millstone tied around my neck and be thrown into the Tiber than ever undermine papal authority to teach her children.

I believe that Gospel passage referenced Christ saying whoever corrupts our young children, would be better if a millstone were tied around their neck and throw in the depths of the Ocean.

I don’t know how much more you can corrupt our young children than with Idols in Churches and photos of Naked Women breastfeeding piglets displayed in Churches. What’s next?

 

[Aquinas11]

He is not in anyway advocating Catholics to stop following the traditions of the Church

So he’s still down with the 1st commandment? Good news!

 

[MagdalenaRita]

It’s a turn off to encounter angry, nasty, uncharitable people

In order to avoid angry, nasty, uncharitable people you would have to avoid the whole world because, yes, even though those things are found in those Catholics who follow tradition, they are everywhere and in all places of the Church. I do not attend a TLM but a parish church and I can tell you there are plenty of people there who can be uncharitable, as a matter of fact, I think you would agree, all of us can be uncharitable at times.

I especially will never come near traditionalism…

This is actually one of the issues he mentioned in the video, avoiding others.

as long as they call the authority of the Pope into question.

I have not met a traditionalist who calls the authority of the Pope into question. They may question certain decisions and actions he does that are not infallible but most traditionalists are concerned because they know very strongly the authority of the Pope.

God bless

 

[RogueSemicolon]

Has anyone here read the homily Pope Francis delivered at the closing Mass for the Amazon synod? He provides some profound reflections on the Gospel that are as apt as ever for all Catholics, but feel especially relevant now in our time.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

So he’s still down with the 1st commandment?

As far as I know. I would love to hear what he has to say on what is happening.

The video linked is actually a very good video. He reminds us to not despair and lose hope despite all the problems in the Church.

Just logged in to Twitter this afternoon and so many priests and bishops crying out for people to pray for the Pope and the Church.

 

[gracepoole]

Marshall’s latest video makes me worry for him. His repeated statements in it that he can’t follow Pope Francis if x, y, and z are required sure make it seem like he’s hit a breaking point.

 

[Crusader13]

Marshall’s latest video makes me worry for him.

His most recent video was quite good. He was asking questions that I think many are wondering themselves.

I don’t want you to think I’m taking a jab at you because I’m not. But sometimes when I read your posts in reference to him, you make him sound as if he’s out there on the edge and he’s succumbed to a Howard Hughes type persona, where he’s talking about fanciful conspiracies and he’s losing touch with reality.

 

[Aquinas11]

Why don’t we let people watch it for themselves so they can assess it for themselves

 

[Aquinas11]

he can’t follow Pope Francis if x, y, and z are required sure make it seem like he’s hit a breaking point.

Interesting you omitted the x, y, z , yet are willing to judge his mental state.

x = bow to idols
y = put idols in our homes
z = put idols in our Churches

I’d question the mental state of anyone willing to do x, y, z

 

[Crusader13]

Marshall clearly believes he’s responding to potential schism. I wonder if he considers whether he’s fomenting schism.

He’s not the leader of the Church and as others like to point out, he’s nobody of authority. So how is he fomenting schism?

When has he proposed ideas that we need to break away and follow another who wants to lead a revolt against the Pope?

Sadly it was Pope Francis who said he’s not afraid of a schism and that he wants the confusion. So if we were to compare who has the greater influence and ability to foment, I’d give the nod to Francis.

 

[gracepoole]

gracepoole:

Marshall’s latest video makes me worry for him.

His most recent video was quite good. He was asking questions that I think many are wondering themselves.

I don’t want you to think I’m taking a jab at you because I’m not. But sometimes when I read your posts in reference to him, you make him sound as if he’s out there on the edge and he’s succumbed to a Howard Hughes type persona, where he’s talking about fanciful conspiracies and he’s losing touch with reality.

Heh. I don’t think that, but he has influence over a lot of people and he sounds as though he may be moving past loyal resistance toward something even more hardcore. I hope not.

 

[gracepoole]

gracepoole:

Marshall clearly believes he’s responding to potential schism. I wonder if he considers whether he’s fomenting schism.

He’s not the leader of the Church and as others like to point out, he’s nobody of authority. So how is he fomenting schism?

When has he proposed ideas that we need to break away and follow another who wants to lead a revolt against the Pope?

Sadly it was Pope Francis who said he’s not afraid of a schism and that he wants the confusion. So if we were to compare who has the greater influence and ability to foment, I’d give the nod to Francis.

When he says he may not be able to follow Francis, that seems to be responding to and fomenting potential schism. He’s not just chatting with a few friends over a scotch. He’s broadcasting to thousands who listen intently.

 

[gracepoole]

gracepoole:

he can’t follow Pope Francis if x, y, and z are required sure make it seem like he’s hit a breaking point.

Interesting you omitted the x, y, z , yet are willing to judge his mental state.

x = bow to idols
y = put idols in our homes
z = put idols in our Churches

I’d question the mental state of anyone willing to do x, y, z

And again, you’re needlessly pushing back against my comments. I didn’t mention the x, y, and z because everyone here knows what they are. My not naming them is not part of some nefarious plot, I assure you. As for judging his mental state, I simply commented that I worry for him. Am I questioning the mental state of everyone for whom I worry? Frankly, as a hardcore loyalist, you should worry for him, too. He seems to have been hit very hard in the last few weeks.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

Marshall’s latest video makes me worry for him. His repeated statements in it that he can’t follow Pope Francis if x, y, and z are required sure make it seem like he’s hit a breaking point.

Crusader13:

His most recent video was quite good. He was asking questions that I think many are wondering themselves.

I think this thread is starting to get a little nitpicky. I just watched his latest video and the xyz he is talking about is bowing down to idols or including pagan idols in churches. I have to say I am not going to do those things either.

As Crusader13 says, he is just voicing questions that many Catholics are asking.

I heard absolutely no disrespect from him toward the Pope but rather just asking Pope Francis what do you want us as Catholics who only want to follow and obey the Pope and the Catholic church, to do and think in this situation.

If Taylor Marshall was the only one asking these questions and you didn’t hear the same thing from a lot of clergy, I would say okay, something is wrong but these are just the simple concerns right now of many Catholics who follow what is happening in the Church.

Also, I think it is important to remember not to make Taylor Marshall any bigger than who he is, a human and a Catholic, one who is very smart as far as Catholic teaching goes, but one who is confused and bothered by the situation happening right now.

As for judging his mental state, I simply commented that I worry for him. Am I questioning the mental state of everyone for whom I worry? Frankly, as a hardcore loyalist, you should worry for him, too. He seems to have been hit very hard in the last few weeks

In all charity, I think if you were really concerned for him you would not post these things about him and name the x,y,z he is concerned about and not try to judge his mental state.

I think everyone has been bothered the last few weeks.

 

[JimmyDFG]

He’s not the leader of the Church and as others like to point out, he’s nobody of authority. So how is he fomenting schism?

Perhaps not, but he has the New Saint Thomas Institute to think about

 

[Emeraldlady]

He’s not the leader of the Church and as others like to point out, he’s nobody of authority. So how is he fomenting schism?

He has been a notable voice for a long time though and he used to be so terrific. I used to cite him all the time. But then the whole tenor of his contributions got cold and dark and even the niceness of his face evolved with that attitude.

I’ve got a strong belief that when people find a degree of fame, without constant prayer and self examination, they are susceptible to the temptations of sin and come crashing spectacularly down.

 

[GiftofMercy]

IN the Video he seems quite upset about these idols, as do many, and he seems confused, as do many. Will the Pope watch this? There are so many people asking this question, Taylor Marshall is just vocalising it. He does not seem unhinged at all. Just concerned and a bit rocked that the statues are the idol as named by Pope Francis.

There are two criticisms of this you tube I have, He addresses Holy Father just as ‘francis’. Also he is libel to draw people into scandal with a very incorrect statement about ’ do you francis want us to worship this idol or any symbolic statues that aren’t Jesus, that aren’t Our Lady and aren’t the saints.
This statement at around 4.07 suggests to me we worship Our Lady and the Saints.

@Emerald Lady, what Father Ripperger said is that some Traditionalists are in danger of slipping into an old Heresy by thinking the Latin Mass is above and better then the OF Mass.
I go to a Latin Mass and have found no one nasty and mean and arrogant. In fact people there would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it, and they are very humble people.