Tension from my spiritual group

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As far as I’m concerned there is only one “way”. He is also the truth and the life and He died on a cross for me. Does it really hafta get this complicated? The Christian walk isn’t supposed to be easy but it isn’t complicated and isn’t toxic.
 
Your Redemptoris Mater affiliation tells it all where are you coming from
Dear curious_cat, an affiliation with an NCW seminary by AlmaRedemptorisMater does not necessarily mean bias against you. You have described a situation of your community life that might be completely different at another diocese. You might be generalizing in an unjustified manner. We don’t know because people usually don’t come to CAF to complain about their own group, be it the NCW or any other church group. You, nevertheless, have to address the question that was raised. Tell us in truthfullness, are you a troll?
You dont seem to be taking any advice here seriously
Dear AlmaRedemptorisMater, curious_cat said he is waiting for an appointment with a priest. This was recommended to him. So why do you say that? I also wonder who the presbyters are he referred to. A presbyter for me sounds like a Protestant preacher. Are priests educated in Redemptoris Mater seminaries are also called ‘presbyters’? Why? Could you give us some enlightening on this puzzling question?
 
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Sorry for any confusion, I am not in seminary, I have only just been confirmed at Easter. I put that as my name because it’s one of my favorite chants.
In regards to my comment, perhaps I was being uncharitable. I got the sense that this thread seemed overly dramatic, with compounding issues designed to evoke strong emotional responses. Perhaps my innate skepticism got the better of me. If that is the case, I sincerely apologize to the OP.
 
I used to go to adoration before I joined the Neocatechumenal Way. I miss that peace and serenity that takes over me in that little chapel.
Could this be the genesis of your difficulties? Like Peter when he sank in the Sea of Galilee, you took your eyes off the Lord. Joining that group took you closer to those in it, but further away from the Lord!

Simply put, you cannot find true peace by leaving the Prince of Peace.
 
The Christian walk isn’t supposed to be easy but it isn’t complicated and isn’t toxic.
Yes, there must be a point where we say a faith with that much toxic factor must not be a faith in Jesus Christ.
You might be generalizing in an unjustified manner.
I did not generalize anything. I was talking about my own group at my own parish.
Tell us in truthfullness, are you a troll?
No, I am not. I feel offended because you must know this much of me! I surely hope I don’t need to prove myself to you. My concerns are vaiid as what I am telling is the truth. This is my reality right now. I am in a deep struggle, but slowly I start to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Are priests educated in Redemptoris Mater seminaries are also called ‘presbyters’? Why?
I can answer this question. Presbyter is not a Protestant title. A presbyter is a priest as any other Catholic priest. When we talk about his function as presiding a meeting or celebration, then we call him a presbyter. This corresponds to the original meaning.
Simply put, you cannot find true peace by leaving the Prince of Peace.
I did not leave my Prince of Peace by walking in the Neocatechumenal Way. But surely, I’ll go to the adoration chapel this weekend, apart from my community, and take a deep dive in His presence. There is no greater spiritual healer than Him!
 
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A funeral is a celebration of one’s admittance to heaven.
We need to be careful that we don’t turn funerals into Canonizations. A funeral is the Rite of the Church to pray for someone who has died.
I did not want to talk about money because money is devil
Money is simply a neutral thing. It is not the devil, that is not teaching of Holy Mother Church. The LOVE of money is the root of evil.
 
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You detach your unhealthy inclination to money by detaching yourself from money itself.
This is often the advise of people who are happy to take that money from you. Be careful.

Around here, the water company and the electric company won’t take “detachment” as payment. My parish needs money to operate.
 
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I feel offended because you must know this much of me!
Alright, I only asked a question. You should know that much of me as I would not take you to be a troll. If you still feel offended then I also apologize.
When we talk about his function as presiding a meeting or celebration, then we call him a presbyter. This corresponds to the original meaning.
I doubt that this would be original meaning of the word presbyter. It rather looks like a typical shift of meaning of the traditional sense of words that your Neocatechumenal movement produces and you yourself have complained about in your OP.

Priest​

This word (etymologically “elder”, from presbyteros , presbyter ) has taken the meaning of “sacerdos”, from which no substantive has been formed in various modern languages (English, French, German). The priest is the minister of Divine worship, and especially of the highest act of worship, sacrifice.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12406a.htm
 
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I’d caution by saying we should not presume the state of someone. Otherwise strange ideas take root
 
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we don’t turn funerals into Canonizations.
But we can celebrate our belief that one is going straight to heaven. Is this not a reason for joy?
I would caution against thinking that people who die go straight to Heaven. That feels way too much like presumption for me to be comfortable thinking that way. I always stop myself at this: God is Merciful and God is Just. When someone dies their outcome will be exactly what fits in with God. I don’t know that outcome, but I can have a founded hope in God’s Mercy to offset his Justice for sin if I believe the person to have lived a life striving for God. In the end I am called to pray for that person because I always assume they’re going to need it because I know I will.
 
But we can celebrate our belief that one is going straight to heaven. Is this not a reason for joy?
The only people who go straight to heaven, as far as we know (because we cannot read souls) are those who are baptized and die before the age of reason or someone who received the Apostolic Pardon as they lay dying.

Others die in friendship with God, yet, they must go through purgatory.
 
Heterodoxy. False teaching. A repudiation of Catholic tradition.
 
Purgatory is an article of Faith.

The Church Suffering is as real as you or I. Please, seek your priest and ask him if Purgatory is real.
 
Trent was a serious error in Catholic history because dogmas do not lead you to heaven. It is conversion to the itinerary of faith that leads you to heaven. Itinerary is paving your path to find your home.
I am not sure I can follow your train of thought, dear curious_cath.
  1. You requested help for tension in your spiritual group. Everybody told you what should you do.
  2. Then you backed off and promised silence until you meet your priest.
  3. But now, out of the blue, you launch an attack on Catholic theology and dogma.
  4. The same time, you put forward an anabashed propaganda for the Neocatechumenal Way.
What are you really trying to achieve? 😉 🙃
 
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My initial response to this thread is that it seemed trollish in nature. Then I thought I was being uncharitable. Now I’m certain this was intended to mislead all along. OP get to confession ASAP.
 
I don’t think NCW is right for me, but didn’t this thread happen about the time when NCW makes their yearly push for membership?..i.e. right after Easter. It is in a parish I attend. Strange timing?!
 
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