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Bahman
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There exist only one and only one possibility if there is one future.
Do you still believe that Jesus was God!?
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Do you still believe that Jesus was God!?
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cena
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Yes he is God, he could tell the future he predicted the betrayl of Judas and Peter’s denial and also his own death
When someone makes a choice they are choosing out of many options. All of these options have different endings. God knows not only what will end up happening, but what could have happened.
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Bahman
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But Jesus could not have any option, knowing the future! Right? Option is only feasible thing for a person who lacks knowing future, person like me and you.
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davidv
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How does this explain it?
Yes. You previous comment is nonsense.
None one what you have presented is reasonable.
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Bahman
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There is only one future. God knows the future. Could he change future? No. God incarnates in this world as a human being. Does he have any option, knowing future? Yes. How many? Only one. He, in another word, is able to do what he knows. Is he able to do otherwise? No. Does he have free will? No.
This is a part of your teaching so you should be very aware of it if you want to defend it.
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cena
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There is one future because of choices made by people using their free will. God could change the future but he wouldn’t because that would probably mean forcing someone to make a particular choice(which he has the ability to do but doesn’t want to)
He could have changed it, he chose not to. He knew he was going to die on the cross he could have prevented it if he wanted to. He chose not to
He is outside of time so he knows the results of the choices people make and he knows the results if they made another choice
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Bahman
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But God has only one eternal act which leaded to creation. Hence, he cannot change it further.
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cena
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Sure he could, He could make the universe cease to exist. Things stay in existence because God wills them to stay in existence.
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Bahman
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Do you agree that God has only one eternal act?
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tonyrey
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Jesus was not omniscient when He was on earth because He was like us in all things but sin. Even if you know what you are going to do it doesn’t mean you are compelled to do it before you decide to do it.
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Bahman
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Then, how he could know that he would be betrayed with one of his discipline?Jesus was not omniscient when He was on earth because He was like us in all things but sin. Even if you know what you are going to do it doesn’t mean you are compelled to do it before you decide to do it.
How they could be one, trinity?
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cena
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What do you mean? Technically all the souls of the humans will live eternally once they are created
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Bahman
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God is perfect. Hence, he doesn’t need to correct himself. God is in state of timeless, hence he can only perform one act since the second act requires time.
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cena
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So how would you explain miracles?
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Bahman
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They were all parts of the big plan. This is however your belief, not mine.
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davidv
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Is the future fixed? How do you know?
I say the future isn’t fixed until the choices that need to made to make it come about are actually made. And, until those choices are made, the future is not fixed.
How do you know? It does not follow from the string of sentences above.
What specific teaching are you referring to? It is not evident from this post.
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Bahman
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Does God know future?
How God could know future then?
It does follow. Please find the answer to the above question first.
Catholic. I have learn these from you (all).
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cena
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God is outside of time and knows what will happen and what could happen. That doesn’t make it un changeable
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Bahman
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Right. Wrong.
God could only have one eternal act. Second act requires time since the second comes after first which is logically impossible since God is in state of timeless.
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cena
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We as humans have free will. God isn’t making them for us. We make choices. Those choices have options. One choice has one result, another choice another result.
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