The Muslims are Coming

[Curiouscat94]

I’ll follow the lead of Bl John Paul II. LOVE and respect of the Muslim faith.

It is a requirement to love the Muslim people. However loving Islam depending on your definition of the word “love” can be a mortal sin. Do you love how Islam denies the trinity? Do you love how it denies the sonship of Jesus? Do you love how Islam denies the crucifixtion? Do you love how Islam blasphemes the holy scriptures?

Do you love how Islam is leading billions of people to hell?

The best form of love you can give muslims is to expose the false Islamic religion.

 

[Curiouscat94]

The Crusaders were losers, murderers and cannibalism was in full effect. Not in the Bible.

And America could care less about your radical ideals just like Islam could care less.

And there is no conversion coming you should actually read Light of the World by Benedict XVI, its unrealistic as he states.

Unbelievable how you insult the blessed memory of the Crusaders by succumbing to tacky muslim lies about them being “cannibals”.

So you are saying we should give up on converting muslims? If your answer is yes, then you are a number 1 heretic

 

[GaryTaylor]

It is a requirement to love the Muslim people. However loving Islam depending on your definition of the word “love” can be a mortal sin. Do you love how Islam denies the trinity? Do you love how it denies the sonship of Jesus? Do you love how Islam denies the crucifixtion? Do you love how Islam blasphemes the holy scriptures?

Do you love how Islam is leading billions of people to hell?

The best form of love you can give muslims is to expose the false Islamic religion.

You believe in a double standard. You think its fine to murder these people while talking about Love Your Neighbor.

Where is this in Catholicism “exactly” And the fact they are ignorant doesn’t mean you get to start a crusade and kill in Gods name. You should check out that one way street out you live on.

 

[Curiouscat94]

You believe in a double standard. You think its fine to murder these people while talking about Love Your Neighbor.

Where is this in Catholicism “exactly” And the fact they are ignorant doesn’t mean you get to start a crusade and kill in Gods name. You should check out that one way street out you live on.

Unbelievable how you call the glorious self-defense actions of Christians “murder”. Were the jew in the warsaw ghetto uprising murderers too? How disgusting.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Unbelievable how you call the glorious self-defense actions of Christians “murder”.

Where are these murderers in the Bible? And how do you rationalize your lacking thinking with 841 of the CCC?

841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

 

[Robert_Sock]

It is a requirement to love the Muslim people. However loving Islam depending on your definition of the word “love” can be a mortal sin. Do you love how Islam denies the trinity? Do you love how it denies the sonship of Jesus? Do you love how Islam denies the crucifixtion? Do you love how Islam blasphemes the holy scriptures?

Do you love how Islam is leading billions of people to hell?

The best form of love you can give muslims is to expose the false Islamic religion.

I have deep respect that we are all sons of Abraham. I have deep respect how the Muslims adhere to the commandments of Christ.

Do you LOVE Judaism? They too deny the Holy Trinity and Christ being the Son of God.

 

[Curiouscat94]

I have deep respect that we are all sons of Abraham. I have deep respect how the Muslims adhere to the commandments of Christ.

Do you LOVE Judaism? They too deny the Holy Trinity and Christ being the Son of God.

Muslims adhere to the commandments of Christ? You are invoking a heresy. They DENY his divinity, they DENY his crucifixtion. Your saying they keep his commandments are you kidding me?

And no I dont love Judaism. Judaism is a false religion and its adherents will die and go to hell if they dont convert to Christianity.

 

[Curiouscat94]

Where are these murderers in the Bible? And how do you rationalize your lacking thinking with 841 of the CCC?

841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

How dare you call them “murderers”. They defended their fellow Christians who were being ethnically cleansed. And the Church’s relationship is clear. They believe in God and adore him. However I suggest you read a few paragraphs down from that where is says those who have KNOWLEDGE of the Church of Christ and dont convert will go to hell for eternity. Funny how you dont believe that.

 

[SchohMike]

I have deep respect that we are all sons of Abraham. I have deep respect how the Muslims adhere to the commandments of Christ.

Do you LOVE Judaism? They too deny the Holy Trinity and Christ being the Son of God.

So, do you plan on being the sheep taken to the altar of Mohammed. Sorry, time for a little self defense against those who wish to kill any and all who do not worship as they do. The pacifist never do face up to the reality that not everyone is living in God’s Love.

 

[GaryTaylor]

adherents will die and go to hell if they dont convert to Christianity.

What page of the CCC is this on?

CCC 841 your way outside of Catholicism. Never mind American freedom, you have your “own” understanding.

 

[GaryTaylor]

How dare you.

Catechism! I suspect you have no response but to embrace the double standards in your mind.

 

[Curiouscat94]

What page of the CCC is this on?

CCC 841 your way outside of Catholicism. Never mind American freedom, you have your “own” understanding.

Heres what pargraph 846 says:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

Understand? Im guessing you disagree with this.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Here you go. kept this in mind along with your rant about the Jews and Islam. I do!

The Church and non-Christians

839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."325

The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God’s revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews “belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ”,328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329

840 And when one considers the future, God’s People of the Old Covenant and the new People of God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ Jesus.

841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day."330

842 The Church’s bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race:

 

[Curiouscat94]

Here you go. kept this in mind along with your rant about the Jews and Islam. I do!

The Church and non-Christians

839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."325

The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God’s revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews “belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ”,328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329

840 And when one considers the future, God’s People of the Old Covenant and the new People of God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ Jesus.

841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day."330

842 The Church’s bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race:

You see unlike you I actually believe ALL of the Catechism, not just the parts I choose. I believe EVERYTHING you have posted here. I also believe as the following passage (846) says, that those Muslims who are aware of the Catholic church’s teachings will die and go to hell for eternity.
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

 

[SchohMike]

So, how are you going to reconcile all the various references to how we should embrace these “brothers” and those waiting to be saved when they are about to behead you? The reality of the brutality and the resolve of the Jihad has a tendency to negate all idealistic beliefs that they will be saved before they erradicate all of the Christian faiths.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Understand? Im guessing you disagree with this.

Not at all but I see you do. The Church is the Universal Church. You don’t get to decide who isn’t in the Church, and who is condemned to hell, and who is in ignorance.

 

[Curiouscat94]

So, how are you going to reconcile all the various references to how we should embrace these “brothers” and those waiting to be saved when they are about to behead you? The reality of the brutality and the resolve of the Jihad has a tendency to negate all idealistic beliefs that they will be saved before they erradicate all of the Christian faiths.

I agree with you. Its unbelievable. First he says we have to bend over for a religion that has waged war against Christianity unprovoked for 1400 years. Then he says Muslims can go on practicing their religion and will go to heaven (which is a heresy). I really dont know why this guy hasnt converted to Islam already

 

[Curiouscat94]

Not at all but I see you do. The Church is the Universal Church. You don’t get to decide who isn’t in the Church, and who is condemned to hell, and who is in ignorance.

No, no. The Church is quite clear. Are you saying that Muslims who are aware of the Catholic church and its teachings and remain a muslim (denying the bible, divinity of christ, trinity) are INSIDE the church and will thus go to heaven?

 

[GaryTaylor]

I agree with you. Its unbelievable. First he says we have to bend over for a religion that has waged war against Christianity unprovoked for 1400 years. Then he says Muslims can go on practicing their religion and will go to heaven (which is a heresy). I really dont know why this guy hasnt converted to Islam already

No Pope Francis and the Catholic Faith states that. Now you would like to condemn me in your Christian love?

 

[GaryTaylor]

No, no. The Church is quite clear. Are you saying that Muslims who are aware of the Catholic church and its teachings and remain a muslim (denying the bible, divinity of christ, trinity) are INSIDE the church and will thus go to heaven?

No your saying this, I’m saying they live in ignorance, and condemning them to hell what page is that on in the CCC.