Those quotes answer your questions:
So what is God’s purpose?
I don’t understand you. Could you please elaborate?
I don’t understand you.
Interesting. What is purpose in your opinion?Well, I know why I suffer. Most of the time my own suffering falls under my “Wrench theory of learning.” I go about life trying to fix the world, to do my best, to have a good life with this wrench. Inadvertently, I have been using the wrench to beat on my own head. Finally, at some point, I realize that I have been making a bloody painful mess, especially on myself, and say something very insightful and intelligent like “Oh, that hurts.”
Sometimes I wonder if hours on the CAF are such a wrench for me.
Then, I put the wrench down. I have suffered, and I have learned something.
Then, of course, I reach for a new wrench…
The rest of it, natural disasters and so forth, fall under “deconstruction in order to build”, or some other perhaps seemingly unpurposeful natural occurrence. There must be some reason, but I don’t know it exactly. I do not know that God is Love because of natural disasters, I know that God is Love because that is how I experience Him in myself and other people, in creation itself.
So, to me, suffering serves a purpose. We have evolved (been created) with a capacity to suffer so that we avoid doing those things that take away from our ability to thrive.
What do you think? Does that raise more questions? Can you relate, a little?
That was not a good answers to my question. What is the purpose?
:ehh:
I am so sorry for your suffering. I however don’t understand your way of approaching toward life and suffering.
That is kinda strange to me if we could sin in Heaven. This means that heaven becomes empty after a while.
The “original” the sin was the “original” disobedience of our “Original” parents, Adam and Eve.:ehh:
Screaming “I TRUST HIM!” is neither a logical argument nor likely to advance the debate.
Implying that I assert that there is “No us” is just bizarre.
As it happens, I personally do not believe in a literal Adam and Eve or original sin, but nowhere here did I deny that Catholics should or do do so.
All I said was that issues such as questioning why God chose to put the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the same garden as Adam and Eve without so much as a fence around it are easily resolved by not trying to interpret Genesis too literally.
Do any serious modern Catholic theologians interpret ‘original sin’ as the physical act of a woman eating a fruit? If they do, then is the OP’s question not a reasonable one? Your username suggests that you have raised at least one generation - would you leave a toddler with no understanding of alcohol poisoning alone with a tankard of vodka with no more than a verbal warning not to drink it? How, for that matter, could an omnipotent omnipresent omniscient God not know of and intervene in the situation as it occurred? If, that is, you interpret it literally.
I don’t care if you think it’s a “good” answer or not. The truth is Bahman , you are going to die. If you become too attached to this world, you will not want to leave it. The reason you do not want to leave it is because you do not believe in the afterlife, you think this life is all there is. In the afterlife there will be no more suffering, except if you turn away from God in this life, and in that case you will have infinite suffering in Hell, which is just another way of saying you will never be near God. In this life, even if you suffer, you can be comforted by the fact that God is near you always.
This is simply because you are not yet a believer, but God will have you if you allow Him.
I’m a little confused. Are you asking for my definition of “purpose”, or are you asking what the purpose is of something?
I don’t understand where did you find all these thing about my system belief. They don’t really reflect who I am.
I was asking what is God’s purpose for creation?
It looks like you’ve put a lot of thought into these questions, and I get the feeling they are coming from a sincere desire to understand or at least seek out Truth (with a capital T). As it says in your profile for what your religion is, you are looking “wherever it may go” so I believe you are definitely searching with a sincere heart.
When the angels fell, they were not in heavenm abnd when our first parents fell, they were not in heaven, so there is no decrease of beings in heaven.
O SON OF MAN! Veiled in My immemorial being and in the ancient eternity of My essence, I knew My love for thee; therefore I created thee, have engraved on thee Mine image and revealed to thee My beauty. - Baha’u’llah
I don’t think you have a “belief system”. I think you have a “disbelief system”!
To manifest and share himself with us, and for us to find our ultimate purpose in him.
