Their parents must be so proud?: Controversy about Kentucky pro-life marchers DC

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Well now that you mention it, I think it starts with a “B”…
 
humbleseeker said:
Are you saying that Nick Sandmann is a racist?
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No, I’m saying he participated in a racist mob. People get caught up sometimes, that’s understandable. A simple apology would go a long way. But he obviously thinks no apology is necessary, so people will criticize his actions.
Trying2overcome said:
So because a couple students at their schools wore blackface, that mean the boys in the video deserve to be falsely accused?
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Nope. The accusations in this case aren’t false however.
FirstFiveEighth said:
Bro, you want to talk about being Catholic, how about you stop condemning individuals for actions they did not commit because they belong to a group you don’t like.
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I’m not condemning individuals, I’m condemning the culture of Covington Catholic.
FirstFiveEighth said:
Earlier you tried to say that because this kid is “white”, and that some Europeans committed crimes against Native Americans, ergo this kid and his fellow classmates, 500yrs later, are guilty of being racist to a Native American guy today by merely standing there while the Native guy beat a drum in his face.
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They’re guilty of racism for the tomahawk chops and the faux Native singing.
FirstFiveEighth said:
You can try to change the narrative all you want man, but the fact is, this has nothing to do with some “blackface” incident from apparently 4yrs ago.
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The blackface incident helps explain how the kids thought this was okay to do. The Catholic high school I am involved with has extensive educational efforts to help explain racial dynamics to the largely white and wealthy student body. Covington Catholic would benefit from the same.
 
They were accused of:
  • Blocking the natives’ path
  • Chanting “build the wall”
  • Insulting the native group
  • Surrounding the native group to harass them
All of these are false.
  • The native man approached the boy, and didn’t even try to get around him. He willingly stood in front of the student. If I come up to you and just stood there, may I accuse you of blocking my path??
  • There was no one chanting “build the wall”
  • No one insulted the native group. But one of the natives DID insult the boys.
  • The natives entered the student group. The students didn’t go up the them and surround them, or mob them at all.
  • As for the ‘faux native singing,’ the boys were already chanting school slogans before the Natives arrived. At first, the students thought the Natives, with their drum banging and chanting, were joining them when they came up to and entered the group of boys.
 
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Sadly, one of the first public Catholic figures to jump on the bandwagon was Fr. James Martin, on FB. Some of us called him on it. Now he has issued a weak apology. Many of his followers are still seething in their outrage. I don’t know how many call themselves Catholics.
 
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Your description of this event is so warped from reality it’s not even funny. A racist mob? Really? Where? Surely you must be referring to the Black SPLC hate group and the indigenous people’s group actually caught on camera hurling racial epithets at the students. Right?

I’m going to ask you a couple “yes or no” questions so we can determine just where you are coming from:
  • Were the Black Hebrew Israelites chanting racist and derogatory slurs at the Covington Catholic kids?
  • Were the Catholic kids yelling racial slurs at the BHI group?
-Were the Catholic kids chanting school cheers?

-Did Nathan Phillips deliberately walk into the group of Covington kids beating his drum?
  • Did the Covington kids go out and find the Indigenous People’s March and surround them?
  • Did Nathan Phillips, at any point in time, talk to any of the students and explain he was drumming and singing for unity?
-Were any members of the Indigenous People’s March with Phillips yelling abuse at the Covington’s Catholic kids?

-Did the Covington Catholic kids yell racial slurs at the indigenous people’s…people?
  • At any point in time, did a Covington Catholic kid yell “build the wall”?
  • Did the main kid in question standing in front of Phillips wall up to Phillips to block his path?
  • Did Phillips move closer and closer to the kid in question and beat his drum progressively closer to his face?
  • Did the kid in question, or any other Covington Catholic kid block Phillips from leaving the area?
  • And since you are so sensitive to context, has Nathan Phillips ever tried to incite a racial incident before?
Yes or no answers, please.
 
I’ve spent thousands of hours working with high school students. I’ve been to pep rallies and sporting events. These boys reacted to the drumming without any malice at all. They were revved up and chanting their school songs. The activist Native American approached them; they let him in. How on Earth were they supposed to divine his purpose (a purpose that I find highly suspect?)

Anyone who knows adolescents at all knows they insatiably seek entertainment. If that’s how they took it, so what? And I believe the video shows that’s exactly how they took it. They were waiting a long time for their bus. Yay, here comes a diversion!
 
And yet no one is demanding an apology from the Hebrew Israelite men who used racial slurs and made homophobic remarks.
 
franklin said:
And yet no one is demanding an apology from the Hebrew Israelite men who used racial slurs and made homophobic remarks.
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Eventually you give up on people. Anyone who’s been to DC knows the BHI are a lost cause. It would be like demanding an apology from David Duke, a big waste of time.
 
CCHcolonel said:
It’s not just what they think. It’s an objective fact. They did nothing wrong other than stand there and hoot and holler during a bizarre ordeal to drown the real hateful rhetoric.
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Tomahawk chops and faux Native singing are hateful rhetoric.
 
I think there’s a lot of hateful rhetoric coming from your keyboard right now. All of it directed at Roman Catholic youth and a Roman Catholic school.
 
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Understood. I know that some of them are former convicts and are tainted with prejudice, so I pray for them. But you can’t disagree with the fact that they were in the wrong in the video by screaming obscenities at the kids.
 
"It was getting ugly, and I was thinking, ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,” Phillips told Washington Post. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

How does a boy “block your retreat” when he’s standing in front of you and doesn’t even move? The video doesn’t show Phillips making any effort to leave, either, after barging into the group.
What a provocateur. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s on Soros’ payroll.
 
John thinks stereotyping groups of people is bad.

Until he doesn’t?
 
It is clear you are being willfully ignorant. You can’t accuse someone of blocking you’re path if you yourself walk up him and make no effort to go around him. If Phillips had tried to move around the boy, and the boy had also moved, then we could say he was ‘blocking his path.’ But that did’t happen. Phillips appears to have targeted the boy
 
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