This US summer is 'what global warming looks like'

[JimR-OCDS]

The USA has drastically reduced the pollution it puts out…try getting the rest of the world to follow.

Right, try getting the rest of the world to follow is tough, especially when you have Americans saying it isn’t necessary and climate change is made up by liberals.

Jim

 

[irishpatrick]

Right, try getting the rest of the world to follow is tough, especially when you have Americans saying it isn’t necessary and climate change is made up by liberals.

Jim

As you can tell, I am not buying into the notion that humans caused global warming…yet I do agree that reducing pollution is a very good thing. So, if we can get the rest of the world to do what we have done, that would be a very good thing.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Agreed. It’s July, last I knew it’s SUPPOSED to be hot during the summer. Two winters ago bought record cold, an epic Christmas blizzard, and record snow. What was to blame for that?

Not what. Who.

George W. Bush.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

As you can tell, I am not buying into the notion that humans caused global warming…yet I do agree that reducing pollution is a very good thing. So, if we can get the rest of the world to do what we have done, that would be a very good thing.

But perhaps we humans are the cause?

Fact is, China and India put out more pollution into the atmosphere than the US ever did.

It may have nothing to do with it, we’re not certain.

But we do know that air pollution effects us, and the rise in asthma and respiratory diseases is a clue supporting that fact.

 

[Calliso]

Judging by the summary I donlt think the article is actually saying that this summer is caused by global warming. Scientists are not saying that warm weather is always caused by global warming. But global warming makes summers like these far more likely. Its like stacking the deck or whatever that saying is.

As for the causes this subject has been studied extensively and while there are still unknowns it is very unlikely that A. the sun the could be the main cause* skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-intermediate.htm

Also while changes in the earths tilt and what not have been important in the past such forcings are far to slow to the current cause of change which is happening quite rapidly.

 

[irishpatrick]

But perhaps we humans are the cause?

Fact is, China and India put out more pollution into the atmosphere than the US ever did.

It may have nothing to do with it, we’re not certain.

But we do know that air pollution effects us, and the rise in asthma and respiratory diseases is a clue supporting that fact.

Reducing manmade pollution is good–I agree. Yet, I do not believe manmade pollution has any real impact on the climate. The USA, and much of the west, has reduced its pollution, so that leaves the two biggies who still poolute. Yet, the world is 71% covered by water (in the oceans alone), and the western culture covers another 10%, so the world is essentially being polluted by only a small percentage of land areas–there is little doubt that nature provides enormous amounts of pollution with just one large volcanic release.

So, since there is little we can ever hope to do regarding the natural cycles the earth goes through, why spend trillions for a non-impact cause? Trillions that nations and people truly need to survive. Also, since the surface of the earth is covered by water in such large percentages, it would seem obvious that the huge ball of fiery gas in the sky is the real cause of any climate fluctuations.

 

[RACJ]

Honestly, anyone who believes that WE (!!!) can do ANYTHING about earth’s temperature is irrational. Fewer than FOUR out of every 10,000 molecules in the atmosphere is CO2. A slight increase or decrease of this trace gas is meaningless. Use your heads people; it’s elementary common sense. We can’t even LIVE without CO2. Rob

 

[RACJ]

Right, try getting the rest of the world to follow is tough, especially when you have Americans saying it isn’t necessary and climate change is made up by liberals.

Jim

The rest of the world may not know much, but if they, like most Americans, believe that AGW is a hoax, they’ve at least figured THAT out. And if you think that the Chinese view us as anything other than pampered fools, you are wrong. There is nothing we could do to change Chinese decisions about anything. Rob

 

[irishpatrick]

Honestly, anyone who believes that WE (!!!) can do ANYTHING about earth’s temperature is irrational. Fewer than FOUR out of every 10,000 molecules in the atmosphere is CO2. A slight increase or decrease of this trace gas is meaningless. Use your heads people; it’s elementary common sense. We can’t even LIVE without CO2. Rob

CO2 is also very good for earth’s plant life.

 

[babochka]

We’re having a remarkably mild summer in my part of the country, as we have for the past few years. Our last really hot summer was in 2006. Our weather patterns to seem to be shifting, though. I live in a part of the country with dry, hot summers. Rain is almost unheard of in June, July, August and September, and things usually start cooling down in October. The last few years, though, we’ve had rain well into June (cool spring storms) and the heat has lasted well into October. Last year we had a couple of 100 degree days in late October, to offset the cool, rainy days in June.

 

[irishpatrick]

We’re having a remarkably mild summer in my part of the country, as we have for the past few years. Our last really hot summer was in 2006. Our weather patterns to seem to be shifting, though. I live in a part of the country with dry, hot summers. Rain is almost unheard of in June, July, August and September, and things usually start cooling down in October. The last few years, though, we’ve had rain well into June (cool spring storms) and the heat has lasted well into October. Last year we had a couple of 100 degree days in late October, to offset the cool, rainy days in June.

Yes, and when this cycle ends and we enter a natural cooling cycle, people will really dislike that.

 

[RACJ]

CO2 is also very good for earth’s plant life.

Absolutely! The natural increase in CO2 is great news for food production! But the left uses ANY propaganda and scare tactic to seize more power for themselves and control the sheep. :) Rob

 

[vz71]

Uhm…was it?

2010 Is Officially the Hottest Year on Record

Well, it’s a tie actually. The final tallies are in and 2010 is even with 2005 as the warmest year on record. NASA and NOAA independently released their own reports yesterday, confirming the improbable and remarkable statistical tie. NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies explains:
good.is/post/2010-the-hot…nasa-and-noaa/

I have my doubts.
They are comparing two years to within a hundreth of a degree and also claiming the temperaures recorded go back to 1880.
In 1880, they did not have the tech necessary for a global temperature reading.

 

[Robertanthony]

I suspect that the sun has a lot more to do with the weather cycles, than do we humans. Get some fairly nasty solar activity cooked-up, and we can see all sorts of trouble, and the reason for that is the oceans respond to what the sun does, and then our weather responds to what the oceans are doing. I am not sure there is much we can do about the sun.

BTW, if we have true global warming now, and it was not global warming back then, how do we explain the many known heat wave cycles we have suffered through across the globe over the decades and centuries? If we humans caused this, then explain the various earlier heat waves when population was way down and carbon emissions were nill.

Same could be said about ice ages, who’s to blame for those (apart from George W. Bush)?

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

Small sample size.

 

[Mickey_Finn]

WOW. I’d have to agree that this is what global warming might look like. Try to remember, that alot of these temperature records had been set in the late nineteenth century. There were tremendous wildfires then as well. South Carolina alone, lost over **3 million **acres to wildfire in 1898. Last year, Texas lost over **4 million **acres. So, even when you take into account the difference in terain, and standing timber. Thats a heck of a fire loss. In the Bastrop fire (near Austin) some 1600 homes were destroyed. Hopefully that record will stand til the end of times.

I’d also have to argee, that in a lot of areas. The fuel load is just too high. So, with drought conditions, high temperatures, and heavy fuel load. You get out of control wild fires. There is only two ways to decrease the fuel load. logging, and fire. I think we should choose logging.

I can’t help but think. Had NAWAPA been started when we first thought it up. Many of these problems would have been mitigated. Thats assuming, that all the water wasn’t designated for power production, and agriculture.

I’m looking forward to the upcoming cooling trend.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

I have my doubts.
They are comparing two years to within a hundreth of a degree and also claiming the temperaures recorded go back to 1880.
In 1880, they did not have the tech necessary for a global temperature reading.

NASA and NOAA are just pushing left-wing propaganda, right?

Jim

 

[vz71]

NASA and NOAA are just pushing left-wing propaganda, right?

Jim

No, I just find the reported results illogical.
They are making a claim of global temperatures for a time when the global temperature was not measurable.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

No, I just find the reported results illogical.
They are making a claim of global temperatures for a time when the global temperature was not measurable.

But there are those who claimed 1936 was the hottest recorded temp.

I provided the link to show that wasn’t the case.

Jim

 

[vz71]

But there are those who claimed 1936 was the hottest recorded temp.

I provided the link to show that wasn’t the case.

Jim

True, but if their methedology is in question, can we be certain their result concerning 1936 is accurate?