Read your own post. Why do you keep skipping where God says it is because of His promise to David that Solomon is on the throne?SOLOMON CONDITIONAL
1 Kings 9:4-5 And IF thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, in integrity of heart, and in uprightness, to do according to all that I have commanded thee, and wilt keep my statutes and my judgments: THEN I will establish the throne of thy kingdom (SOLOMON’S KINGDOM) upon Israel for ever, a**s I promised to David thy father, **saying, There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Israel.
DAVID UNCONDITIONAL
I have already pointed out the error in this your understanding. There is one covenant with David which extends to Solomon because God made that promise to David that David’s son would remain on the throne and his line would continue on the throne if they remained faithful…2 Samuel 7:16 And thine house and thy kingdom (DAVID’S KINGDOM) SHALL be established for ever before thee: thy throne SHALL be established for ever.
Did I say it was off?What specifically is off about Christianity and Islam being the Iron Gentiles and Jews being the Clay? If the Kingdom of God is represented by the fig tree in the Bible and both Muslims and Christians say Jesus is Messiah…
Proverbs 27:17-18 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured.
Isn’t the womb the most place for rebirth, since it is the most natural place for birth?
birth, not resurrection. When Jesus raised Eliazar (sp?), he did not put him in his mother’s womb,…when we will be resurrected, it won’t be in wombs.
What do you suppose this means if Mary was his real mother?
But made like unto the Son of God.birth, not resurrection. When Jesus raised Eliazar (sp?), he did not put him in his mother’s womb,…when we will be resurrected, it won’t be in wombs.
this is about Melchizedek.
Do you mean for conception?Isn’t the womb the most place for rebirth, since it is the most natural place for birth?
She is Jesus’ real mother.What do you suppose this means if Mary was his real mother?
This is a description of Melchisedek, the Priest of God.Hebrews 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
But made like unto the Son of God.
- Jesus was made from the seed of David according to the flesh.
- But the Son of God was made with no mother or father, and Adam is also called the Son of God in Luke.
If MARY IS Jesus real mother then Joseph may be his real father and Jesus (body) may be born from the seed of david through Joseph the carpentar. Only The spirit of jesus may be from God. It is the spirit that matters most.Do you mean for conception?
She is Jesus’ real mother.
This is a description of Melchisedek, the Priest of God.
What this verse means is that Melchisedek is not a Levitical priest. The words, without father, without mother, means without genealogy as the next next phrase confirms. Without beginning of days nor end of life means that we don’t know when he was born nor when he died. Yet he is like unto the Son of God because Jesus is also not a Levite, being of Davidic descendance and because he Melchisedek also offers the Thanksgiving Sacrifice of Bread and Wine and not the sacrifice of animals which was established in the Mosaic covenant.
Sincerely,
De Maria
As Jews often point out, Joseph was cursed through Jechonias not to have any more kings in his line, so that would disqualify him.If MARY IS Jesus real mother then Joseph may be his real father and Jesus (body) may be born from the seed of david through Joseph the carpentar. Only The spirit of jesus may be from God. It is the spirit that matters most.
I have no idea what either of you are talking about. Moslems haven’t a clue what the Bible teaches, or what Christianity is all about. They read the Bible, but their eye are closed as to what it says. They might as well be coming from another planet.planten;3188281:
As Jews often point out, Joseph was cursed through Jechonias not to have any more kings in his line, so that would disqualify him.If MARY IS Jesus real mother then Joseph may be his real father and Jesus (body) may be born from the seed of david through Joseph the carpentar. Only The spirit of jesus may be from God. It is the spirit that matters most.
HiI have no idea what either of you are talking about.
If MARY IS Jesus real mother then Joseph may be his real father
and where is the virgin birth?
I think I have a pretty good handle on it. I was telling him Joseph couldn’t transfer royalty by adoption or by being the natural father because his line was cursed.I have no idea what either of you are talking about. Moslems haven’t a clue what the Bible teaches, or what Christianity is all about. They read the Bible, but their eye are closed as to what it says. They might as well be coming from another planet.
zerinus
I will believe that when I see it!.I think I have a pretty good handle on it.
Which Joseph Could not transfer what royalty by what adoption by being the natural father of whom? Whose line was cursed, and why, and who says?I was telling him Joseph couldn’t transfer royalty by adoption or by being the natural father because his line was cursed.
Which throne are you talking about, and why was it never given to Solomon, and who says?Not to mention that the throne was never given back to the Solomon line, only David has it.
I think you have a pretty good handle on that too.I do wish I knew what the heck you are talking about!
zerinus
I assure you I don’t! Care to tell us?I think you have a pretty good handle on that too.
Scripture tells us from the beginning that the Messiah will be the Seed of the Woman. The terminology “seed of the Woman” is unheard of in the Old Testament except in this prophecy in Genesis 3.If MARY IS Jesus real mother then Joseph may be his real father
No.
and Jesus (body) may be born from the seed of david through Joseph the carpentar.
He is the Son of David through Mary who is also of the line of David. Joseph, described as a just man would not marry outside his lineage. That was Jewish law. Therefore Mary is of Davidic descendance.
Jesus is God.Only The spirit of jesus may be from God.
It is the spirit that matters most.
It only applied to daughters I think, based on Numbers 36. Boaz married Ruth, a Moabite, their grandson was King David. So that can’t really prove Mary was of Judah, if she was a convert to Judaism and didn’t descend from any Israelites.He is the Son of David through Mary who is also of the line of David. Joseph, described as a just man would not marry outside his lineage. That was Jewish law. Therefore Mary is of Davidic descendance.
Dear FoA,It only applied to daughters I think, based on Numbers 36. Boaz married Ruth, a Moabite, their grandson was King David. So that can’t really prove Mary was of Judah, if she was a convert to Judaism and didn’t descend from any Israelites.
It was Mahlon. But I don’t think Ruth is considered to have converted until he died and Orpah left to return to Moabite gods, but Ruth said that she wanted to stay and accept Naomi’s God of Israel. I don’t think marriage to an Israelite necessarily meant conversion.Dear FoA,
Your knowledge of the bible is incredible, especially the OT. You are quite correct that Ruth was a Moabite. But, before Ruth married Boaz, she already married to either Mahlon of Kilyon (I don’t remember who). They are the son of Elimelekh which is the clan of Boaz. The Israellite consider the offspring to follow the line of the Father not the Mother, I think. By the time Ruth married Boaz, she is already considered as one of the Israellite by her previous marriage.
She was born of St. Joachim and St. Anne. They were faithful and devout Jews.It only applied to daughters I think, based on Numbers 36. Boaz married Ruth, a Moabite, their grandson was King David. So that can’t really prove Mary was of Judah, if she was a convert to Judaism and didn’t descend from any Israelites.