Tom Brady Suspended

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Havard said:
I’m done arguing with you. I refuted your point with multiple examples, and you completely ignored it and bring up a totally different one. Yes, McNally said he didn’t under-inflate. That’s not proof he did or that he didn’t, and he has plenty of reason to say he didn’t.

Peace.
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Last night, I meant to commend you for informing us well on this issue.
 
ucfengr said:
For it to stand up in a legal proceeding, I doubt text messages between low level staff members is sufficient evidence to prove Brady was lying about how well he knew or didn’t know McNally. McNally was the locker room attendant for the NFL officials, not the players. He obviously had a lot of interaction with Jastremski, but it’s not obvious that he had any interaction with Brady. Also, I don’t know how you establish emotional state in text messages. Did he use a “stressed” emoji?
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Stop. Just stop.

An NFL starting QB knows very darn well who is in charge of preparing the game balls. QB’s are VERY specific about the condition the footballs must be in. They all have VERY specific treatments they want done to ensure the football is a comfortable fit for them so they can throw it easily.

From an article I read about the report, it would take from 60-90 minutes for EACH football to prepare it before a game. They buff them, remove the slick coat, rough them up some, flex them out and other treatments so the footballs are easier to throw and the QB can get a better grip on the football.

It is beyond the level of willful suspension of disbelief to think that Brady didn’t know of the man who prepared the game balls for the last 15 years.
 
I think I may have to change my opinion on this whole matter.

I have been saying all along that Tom Brady should serve NO suspension whatsoever… Then I realized that if Ray Rice was suspended for TWO games for beating his fiancee; then Tom Brady should be suspended for the Patriots ENTIRE SIXTEEN GAME SCHEDULE because he beats everybody. :rolleyes:
 
rfournier103 said:
I’m sure Tom had his reasons…
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I do not know anything about it. I was only just wondering what the issue is when both teams use the same ball . I understand the rules issue,not the consequences in the field. Can anyone briefly explain them to me?
 
Havard said:
I’m done arguing with you. I refuted your point with multiple examples, and you completely ignored it and bring up a totally different one. Yes, McNally said he didn’t under-inflate. That’s not proof he did or that he didn’t, and he has plenty of reason to say he didn’t.

Peace.
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And I’ve answered all your “refutations”. That said, if McNally underinflated the balls, apparently against Brady’s wishes (remember, you said he preferred his footballs at 12.5psi, which is within the regulation), why is Brady getting suspended? Because he didn’t want to turn over his cell phone to a third party? Because he and Wells disagreed about the nature of his relationship with McNally? I’m not seeing that hold up before an arbitrator or in court.
 
zz912 said:
Stop. Just stop.

An NFL starting QB knows very darn well who is in charge of preparing the game balls. QB’s are VERY specific about the condition the footballs must be in. They all have VERY specific treatments they want done to ensure the football is a comfortable fit for them so they can throw it easily.

From an article I read about the report, it would take from 60-90 minutes for EACH football to prepare it before a game. They buff them, remove the slick coat, rough them up some, flex them out and other treatments so the footballs are easier to throw and the QB can get a better grip on the football.

It is beyond the level of willful suspension of disbelief to think that Brady didn’t know of the man who prepared the game balls for the last 15 years.
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Knowing who is responsible for a specific task is different from having a relationship with that person. There were texts between Brady and Jastremski that establish their relationship but where are the texts between Brady and McNally? Did McNally decline to turn over his phone to investigators as well?
 
ucfengr said:
Knowing who is responsible for a specific task is different from having a relationship with that person. There were texts between Brady and Jastremski that establish their relationship but where are the texts between Brady and McNally? Did McNally decline to turn over his phone to investigators as well?
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McNally and Jastremski turned over their Patriot issued phones, not their personal phones.

Jim
 
Well, he came out and played in the First pre-season game for a bit.
 
SuperLuigi said:
Well, he came out and played in the First pre-season game for a bit.
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And this was after being in a court room all week.

Goodell is trying to force the judge to make the decision, which of course would be in Brady’s favor.

Then he can say to the other team owners, well, I tried to punish Brady, but the judge ruled against me.

Goodell should be replaced ASAP.

Jim
 
It is me, or do I see Pete Rose happening here all over again?

Not saying Brady won’t be in HOF, just wondering why pro sports doesn’t seem to be as hard on convicted criminals sometimes. 🤷
 
SuperLuigi said:
It is me, or do I see Pete Rose happening here all over again?

Not saying Brady won’t be in HOF, just wondering why pro sports doesn’t seem to be as hard on convicted criminals sometimes. 🤷
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Pet Rose was proven to have betted on games while playing.

Tom Brady has not be proven or even shown to be guilty of violating NFL Rules.

Goodell is forcing the court to rule on Brady’s innocence, because he hasn’t got the guts to tell the team owners who hate the Patriots, that the Wells report didn’t find conclusive evidence of the team or Brady’s guilt.

The court is suppose to rule before September 4th, but hopefully on Friday when both sides are due back in court.

Jim
 
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