Top 10 reasons women should dress modestly

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I certainly don’t want women to think they are dirty. But you will get unwanted attention if you dress in skimpy clothes. I have a 13 year old daughter and she will never be allowed to dress like some of her friends. Thankfully she is a tom boy and cares more about animals, biking and basketball then she does about make up and belly button piercings.
In my experience it is mostly men and women with little contact with other women who have the Madonna/whore complex. I think its because women can sometimes be seen as this mysterious ‘other’, almost like a different species. People are scared of what they do not know. It might seem silly to apply this to men and women but i think it is true to an extent.
 
Obviously you are someone who cares more about icons and images than what lies beneath them.
Well, I’m not an iconoclast, that’s for sure.🙂
Oh yes, and I just love how you associate something that God saw that was good during the creation with the age of moral depravity such as the end-times. Really, your materialist understanding of physical appearances is enlightening. :rolleyes:
Now you wouldn’t be trying to flummox me with flummery, would you?🙂
I’m sure everyone here knows of Joan of Arc’s popularity both inside and outside Catholic circles. With that in mind, here are some secular images of the saint were she to have existed in a fantasy-themed realm.
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I’m almost sure she will drown in THAT swimsuit.🙂

Hey gang - It’s been fun. Gotta go. Have a good thread.
 
Hello everyone.

Lost Wanderer, thanks for the debate. Even though, some things here got pretty nasty it was still very interesting. I believe that I have already made my point known and with that I take my leave.

I just wanted to say to you and Debora123 that if I lacked any charity in any of our conversations, I do apologize.

One last thing I’ll say is that whatever one does in their lives, may all their choices reflect the love of Chirst and for one’s own neighbor. It seems that both of you are great people. May God bless you each.

God bless.
 
I just wanted to say to you and Debora123 that if I lacked any charity in any of our conversations, I do apologize.
It’s been fun. You did not lack any charity, and I apologize to you if I did. Things can get a little frustrating after 900+ posts. 🙂

God Bless!
 
I would not wear one in the 50’s because they were not modest back then. But I am thankful to the women who stood up and wore them and cleared the way for the rest of us. 🙂

I really can’t let the fact that there are some perverts out there govern the way I live my life. If it’s hot, I’m going to wear shorts. If I’m going to the beach, I’m going to wear a bikini. If I don’t feel like wearing shoes, I will wear sandals. There may be pervs out there who will lust over legs, a bikini, or feet. Can’t please everyone.
I feel the opposite way. I look you skimpy the outfits that young teenagers are wearing and it makes me sad and I feel sorry that my daughter and sons are exposed to it. My son went to prom his junior and senior year and I was shocked at his prom dates dresses. One girl had a very low cut, short dress with no back. My son was telling me how beautiful she looked. Some shorts are as short as bikini bottoms, they show their bellies and they are all over my boys.
 
I feel the opposite way. I look you skimpy the outfits that young teenagers are wearing and it makes me sad and I feel sorry that my daughter and sons are exposed to it. My son went to prom his junior and senior year and I was shocked at his prom dates dresses. One girl had a very low cut, short dress with no back. My son was telling me how beautiful she looked. Some shorts are as short as bikini bottoms, they show their bellies and they are all over my boys.
Good to hear he thought his date looked beautiful and didn’t refer to her as a skank or anything less.

I would encourage you to raise your sons to be good men who treat all women with respect, regardless of what they are wearing… rather than perceiving women’s choice of dress as being the ultimate problem.
 
I am sorry about your having been stalked. That man is seriously disturbed.

Porn has been around for a long time. Perverts are perverts because of various factors. We should not have to adjust our lifestyles to accomodate them.

I do not understand what you mean by ‘oversexed’. If you mean being obsessed with sex, then it is their issue and they should seek treatment if it causes them to do things like stalking someone or go live in the wilderness. There are women who are obsessed with sex too BTW. They should not blame the world we live in or other people for their own issues.
I’m not real smart when it comes to men but I am learning from my mistakes.

Porn hasn’t been around like it is now. You can google something innocent and end up on a porn site. Young boys are exposed to videos of sex at a very young age. Much different than the play boy magazines when I was growing up. It is not good for our daughters or sons.

By oversexed, sex is everywhere. Yes - our society is obsessed with sex. I use to like Glee. Now I can’t stand it. Girls sleeping with boys or girls whichever is handy. Guys making out with each. Sex, sex, sex and very little singing and dancing. You can’t turn on the TV without seeing people sleeping together. Sex is casual. Sex is everywhere. You want sex tonight. Just hope in the internet and you can find a partner. NSA sex is easy to get.

On this site, you write you are addicted to porn and you get lectures. On another website, you get links to other members favorite porn sites.
 
Good to hear he thought his date looked beautiful and didn’t refer to her as a skank or anything less.

I would encourage you to raise your sons to be good men who treat all women with respect, regardless of what they are wearing… rather than perceiving women’s choice of dress as being the ultimate problem.
I do teach them to respect women and I teach my daughter to respect herself by dressing appropriately. Let me put it this way, I am too young to be a grandmother. :eek:

The women’s choice in dress is not the ultimate problem but it is part of the problem.
 
The women’s choice in dress is not the ultimate problem but it is part of the problem.
I would disagree with this here. If a man is a pervert and has an impure heart, that’s on him. Covering up more won’t change his heart or make him pure. It is not solving the problem.

I would encourage women not to dress immodestly out of respect for themselves, not because it will somehow purify perverted men.
 
I’m not real smart when it comes to men but I am learning from my mistakes.

Porn hasn’t been around like it is now. You can google something innocent and end up on a porn site. Young boys are exposed to videos of sex at a very young age. Much different than the play boy magazines when I was growing up. It is not good for our daughters or sons.

By oversexed, sex is everywhere. Yes - our society is obsessed with sex. I use to like Glee. Now I can’t stand it. Girls sleeping with boys or girls whichever is handy. Guys making out with each. Sex, sex, sex and very little singing and dancing. You can’t turn on the TV without seeing people sleeping together. Sex is casual. Sex is everywhere. You want sex tonight. Just hope in the internet and you can find a partner. NSA sex is easy to get.

On this site, you write you are addicted to porn and you get lectures. On another website, you get links to other members favorite porn sites.
True, but we cannot allow this to get us down.

All we can do is look at ourselves and strive to remain pure of heart, despite what’s around us. And of course, we need to teach our children that same type of strength.
 
I’m not real smart when it comes to men but I am learning from my mistakes.

Porn hasn’t been around like it is now. You can google something innocent and end up on a porn site. Young boys are exposed to videos of sex at a very young age. Much different than the play boy magazines when I was growing up. It is not good for our daughters or sons.

By oversexed, sex is everywhere. Yes - our society is obsessed with sex. I use to like Glee. Now I can’t stand it. Girls sleeping with boys or girls whichever is handy. Guys making out with each. Sex, sex, sex and very little singing and dancing. You can’t turn on the TV without seeing people sleeping together. Sex is casual. Sex is everywhere. You want sex tonight. Just hope in the internet and you can find a partner. NSA sex is easy to get.

On this site, you write you are addicted to porn and you get lectures. On another website, you get links to other members favorite porn sites.
I agree with much of what you say above. I think the internet makes access to everything very easy. However, you can easily lock out unsuitable sites for your kids and even adjut your security settings so you do not accidentally go to sites you do not want to go to. The best way I suppose is to teach our kids well so they are armed and informed to try to make good decisions when they grow up in every aspect of their lives.

I agree - sex should not be trivialised.
 
I would disagree with this here. If a man is a pervert and has an impure heart, that’s on him. Covering up more won’t change his heart or make him pure. It is not solving the problem.

I would encourage women not to dress immodestly out of respect for themselves, not because it will somehow purify perverted men.
We probably will never agree on this. What I see is a society obsessed with sex. Marriage is being attacked and our children corrupted. There are men and women in society both sides need to make changes for things to get better. You can’t blame it all on the men.
 
We probably will never agree on this. What I see is a society obsessed with sex. Marriage is being attacked and our children corrupted. There are men and women in society both sides need to make changes for things to get better. You can’t blame it all on the men.
I don’t blame the plight of a “sex is casual” society all on men. We are talking about 2 separate things, or perhaps you misunderstood my point.

I blame perverted men for being perverted, as I would blame perverted women for being perverted.

…Just as I would blame a thief for being a thief, and not put the blame on the person walking around carrying a lot of money.
 
I don’t blame the plight of a “sex is casual” society all on men. We are talking about 2 separate things, or perhaps you misunderstood my point.

I blame perverted men for being perverted, as I would blame perverted women for being perverted.

…Just as I would blame a thief for being a thief, and not put the blame on the person walking around carrying a lot of money.
I just see them linked together. If the person wasn’t flashing his money all over town then the thief wouldn’t have targeted him. It is not the persons fault that he was robbed but he would still have the money if he had put it in the bank.
 
I just see them linked together. If the person wasn’t flashing his money all over town then the thief wouldn’t have targeted him. ** It is not the persons fault that he was robbed but he would still have the money if he had put it in the bank**.
Right, so the rich person should be careful with his money for his OWN sake, not for the sake of trying to convert the thief into a good person. It doesn’t work out that way, and it doesn’t change that person’s HEART.

Same line of thinking-

A women should dress modestly* out of respect for HERSELF, not for the sake of trying to convert a pervert into a good person. It doesn’t work out that way and it doesn’t change that person’s HEART.

*(though your standards of modesty of dress are quite different from that of our culture’s, unless I’m mistaken)
 
Right, so the rich person should be careful with his money for his OWN sake, not for the sake of trying to convert the thief into a good person. It doesn’t work out that way, and it doesn’t change that person’s HEART.

Same line of thinking-

A women should dress modestly* out of respect for HERSELF, not for the sake of trying to convert a pervert into a good person. It doesn’t work out that way and it doesn’t change that person’s HEART.

*(though your standards of modesty of dress are quite different from that of our culture’s, unless I’m mistaken)
No. The Catholic basis for modesty is love, not “respect for HERSELF”. A woman should dress modestly out of love for God and His children, period. The moral basis for all our acts is love. We pursue truth and seek to do the good, period.

Outside of the love of God, we are nothingness itself.

Any other motivation is suspect.
 
No. The Catholic basis for modesty is love, not “respect for HERSELF”. A woman should dress modestly out of love for God and His children, period. The moral basis for all our acts is love. We pursue truth and seek to do the good, period.

Outside of the love of God, we are nothingness itself.

Any other motivation is suspect.
**We must respect ourselves and love ourselves before we are capable of loving others. **
 
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