You apparently can read minds and/or have access to this individuals medical records. That or your basing your conclusion on what you’ve gathered from news articles and have decided that your professional opinion (I’m assuming you’re a mental health professional) and professional judgment is so great you can accurately conclude that this individual refused help instead of getting substandard and/or ineffective help.The subject of this Op refused help.
…thought he was helping further some LGBTQ cause. “Fix Society”
Yeah and St. John Paul the Great’s struggles with his health at the end of his life kind of invalidate any sort of argument one just has to pray hard enough to be cured of a physical or mental illness. But of course, that’s assuming your above quote is about curing physical and mental illnesses and not actually about one’s internal spiritual struggles.“…A final word:
Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on all of God’s armor so that you will be able to stand firm against all strategies of the devil. For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.
Therefore, put on every piece of God’s armor so you will be able to resist the enemy in the time of evil.”
And we really can no more make that conclusion as we can that he refused treatment. All we can really say about his treatment from the information we have available is that it was ineffective.That’s not entirely accurate. Her parents only allowed her to meet with Christian therapists, all of whom denied transgenderism.
Ah…because one side is pro-life and the other isn’t.
The one above.**
Which of my posts gave you that idea?
hint try using the quote function.
I have no personal connection to this case.Lion IRC;12634481:
help.The subject of this Op refused
…thought he was helping further some LGBTQ cause. “Fix Society”
You apparently can read minds and/or have access to this individuals medical records.
Is that not what you also are doing?…That or your basing your conclusion on what you’ve gathered from news articles
I am also in stunned shock.I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been locked due to so many hateful posts.
I can agree with this. I was basing my comments on posts from this adolescent on Tumblr but I think your conclusion is the safest and most prudent available.And we really can no more make that conclusion as we can that he refused treatment. All we can really say about his treatment from the information we have available is that it was ineffective.
I’m not trying to attract flies.The one above.
BTW, one catches more flies with honey than with vinegar.
"Hate" is a label used frequently by the LGBTQ lobby against their detractors.I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been locked due to so many hateful posts.
What *are *you trying to do here?I’m not trying to attract flies.
The majority of people here have offered sympathy or prayers.I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been locked due to so many hateful posts.
-You terming it “baggage” pretty much declares your bias as not actually being impartialI have no personal connection to this case.
Neither have I got any prior mental health, depression, self-harm “baggage” which might otherwise bias my impartiality.
Is that not what you also are doing?
Yes, I agree. And let the Mods do their job.…I’d prefer that the hateful posts result in mod actions to the posters themselves than a lock for everyone.
Well, I HAVE posted a few bible verses and tried to steer the topic BACK to the theological/moral issues rather than trying to delve deeply into the character and personal motives of fellow posters.What *are *you trying to do here?
Nor was I calling anyone here a fly. I assumed you were trying to be involved in a conversation. To make a potentially reasonable point in such an unreasonable manner that what you are trying to say is totally obscured seems to be counterproductive.I’m not trying to attract flies.
Thanks for your concern.Nor was I calling anyone here a fly. I assumed you were trying to be involved in a conversation. To make a potentially reasonable point in such an unreasonable manner that what you are trying to say is totally obscured seems to be counterproductive.
Is that more clear?
…There are a lot of kids out there who are hurting. I think all of us need to consider how we can be good Christian examples to them and comfort them when they need it. It isn’t an easy balance, but this is the kind of thing that can happen when things go wrong.
“an hero” was a reference to a case in the mid 2000s, it was also a rather boorish reference to make.Either the teen *was *so mentally ill as to be unable to make good decisions, in which case this act of suicide was simply an awful tragedy; or the teen was *not *so mentally ill as to be incapable of making decisions, in which case he did a horrendously cruel and vindictive thing, not at all heroic.
The *best *we can think is that he was seriously mentally ill and unable to think clearly, and his family was dealing with a seriously mentally ill child and this whole thing is a tragedy. And the best thing to do is to pray for this troubled teen and for his family.
In no way is it possible to think of this act of suicide as heroic.
There are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven.It seems you imagine that based on that bible verse that it is OK for guys to have their penises turned inside out? That bible verse is only stating that when we are baptised we all become one in Jesus Christ.
I know transgender people who were concerned that this might cause chain suicide.Agreed.
In fact, it crossed my mind as well, that there is certainly a chance, a copy-cat suicide could occur somewhere, 1 if not more.
A few years ago, there was a rash of teen suicides like as a fad.
I can websearch “town hit by teen suicides”, it brings up different locales around the nation where this has happened.
Just like when there have been some beheadings in the Middle East, somehow, doing that found itself back to our shores though, certainly isolated incidences.
I will look for it.Please cite source.
Yes. Suicide, even if the motivation for it is psychopathic, is always tragic.Due to his interrelation with his friends, their parents and social media he came to believe suicide was a noble thing. His parents tried to remove these negative influences from his life and now they are the ones being condemned
The Church has consistently interpreted that metaphorically, just like Matthew 5:29.There are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven.