Trayvon Martin: 'Shoot first' law under scrutiny

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Don’t you think there’s a good chance she’d be biased in her account?
Yes, I do.

If you have ever been questioned by the police as a witness (I have…:o ), you would find that they question you left, right and center. Questions are reworded. Worded in such a way that really gets down to what you really heard or saw. It isn’t a matter of simply telling your story.

On the other hand, a lawyer doesn’t tend to do that unless they are preparing you for cross examination at trial.
 
Spike Lee should be sued for what did to that poor couple-----who are now being basically forced to move by his irresponsible, all-out-stupid texting actions.

At the very least he owes them an apology and some help in moving out.

Sheesh.
Lets pray no other forms of harm come to individuals becuase of the knee jerk reactions of some.
 
Any “proof” that comes of this will be found out by the DA assigned to the case. I’m sure she will be be thorough.
And if it turns out that it was really a “tragic accident” and/or self-defense. I will be the first one to accept this and be the first one to admit this here. I just want an investigation that will be acceptable for EVERYONE, particularly the Martin family.

BTW—

It’s very unintentionally ironic what you said about “Ole”-------
Since I happen to be of Hispanic descent. 😃
Don’t mention it here, because I consider it irrelevant to my faith and what I have to say to folks here. And yes, I know you did not mean that as a racist insult. 👍

Just thought it funny.

LOL.
well i agree with that, but it’s just that you had said this earlier (part in bold):
You know who ticks me off right now?

Fox News. They’re treating this as just another case of "you don’t know what happened."
CNN, FOX and MSNBC are all corrupt and biased.

Both O’Reilly and Hannity were pushing that meme yesterday evening.

On the other hand, we DO know that Zimmerman has changed his story at least three times-----that he disregarded (we’re pretrty sure of that) distinct instructions by the phone operator to NOT engage Martin-----also that he has a “record”----which includes assault on a POLICE OFFICER and domestoc violence-----------------Far more serious than the attempted smear of Martin with his “record”------(graffiti? Half my high school friends did that------some of them are succesful lawyers and businessmen now. :rolleyes:)

Also that he was carrying a gun (yes, I know it’s legal) when it was not within his responsibility as Neighborhood Watch guy to carry---------

They DO NOT mention ANY reason for Zimmerman to be a suspect.

Figures.

Our society has deteriorated to such an extent (and we think in terms of being in a siege now) that “playing for keeps” is the order of the day.

**Therefore, if a NON-COP approaches you at night for NO apparent reason--------and you happen to be black and be wearing a hoodie (gasp!!! Thug Gang Member!! :eek:) if you DO NOT FOLLOW THE NON-COP’S INTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER, you will be shot dead. Because wannabe supecops cannot take any chances.

Also Because, you know, we are NOT fooling around------------crime is destroying our society------and that’s the prize black youth pay for being part of a criminal underclass. Unfortunate (but “necessary”) profiling. “Common sense.” :rolleyes:
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Plus-------again-------society is “playing for keeps.”

I feel totally sick about this. Our society has totally forsaken god and we will pay for it. Surviavl of the fittest-style Darwinism has won.

May God have mercy on our fallen, wretched world and souls. :gopray:
anyway, my family also is hispanic so i get that racism is really hurtful but i see nothing that makes zimmerman one. the real racists that have highjacked this crime for their agendas makes me want to puke. they are not moving society at all towards peace. i also can see that some are just reacting emotionally and can’t help but believe it was motivated by racism only because they have experienced so much in their past. still doesn’t change the fact that we have to look at everything objectively.

i think every reasonable person wants to see justice prevail and hope the people responsible for uncovering the facts do so with integrity. the meme that at this point no one knows what happened is a good one!

peace, brother. oh no, i just called you, “brother”! :eek: look out! now i’m a racist! ole! 😃

btw, if you have time, listen to the tape and tell me what you hear. again i hear f***ing punks.

orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/68871920/News/George-Zimmerman-911-call-reporting-Trayvon-Martin
 
Contrast this to the 13-year old Allen Coon’s case in Kansas City. The boy was attacked on the porch of his home as he was coming home from school, was doused with gasoline, and set on fire. That was clearly a pre-meditated attack, yet the public’s attention is captivated by the Trayvon Martin case, and not many people are paying attention to the vicious, hate-motivated events that took place in Kansas City.
Allen Coon is white, so its 100% OK. No hate crime charges will be filed.
 
Spike Lee should be sued for what did to that poor couple-----who are now being basically forced to move by his irresponsible, all-out-stupid texting actions.

At the very least he owes them an apology and some help in moving out.

Sheesh.
i totally agree.
 
well i agree with that, but it’s just that you had said this earlier (part in bold):

anyway, my family also is hispanic so i get that racism is really hurtful but i see nothing that makes zimmerman one. the real racists that have highjacked this crime for their agendas makes me want to puke. they are not moving society at all towards peace. i also can see that some are just reacting emotionally and can’t help but believe it was motivated by racism only because they have experienced so much in their past. still doesn’t change the fact that we have to look at everything objectively.

i think every reasonable person wants to see justice prevail and hope the people responsible for uncovering the facts do so with integrity. the meme that at this point no one knows what happened is a good one!

peace, brother. oh no, i just called you, “brother”! :eek: look out! now i’m a racist! ole! 😃

btw, if you have time, listen to the tape and tell me what you hear. again i hear f***ing punks.

orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/68871920/News/George-Zimmerman-911-call-reporting-Trayvon-Martin
I personally feel that GZ acted irresponsibly and "jumoed the gun,’ so to speak, regarding Treyvon martin. I was emotional when i wrote that. I’m sorry—I think the evidence points to something not right about this. And the police-----it has been confirmed----were thinking of charging GZ with manslaughter-----but they didn’t because of “lack of evidence.” Don’t know what that means—should be looked into. And some do think that GZ is somehow being protected by the police. Not saying that is true----but that also needs to be looked into.👍

But it could be other things, of course. I now admit that.

Personally, it goes other way for me regarding the words. used in the tape. Could be both “punks” and “c–n” however you intepret it.

Nancy Grace, by chance, thinks she hears a racial slur. Go figure.🤷

The Florida investigative team has hired top-notch voice experts to analyze the tape and the words. They should be able to get to the bottom of this.

The truth should come and bring closure and healing to everyone. 👍🙂
 
I personally feel that GZ acted irresponsibly and "jumoed the gun,’ so to speak, regarding Treyvon martin. I was emotional when i wrote that. I’m sorry—I think the evidence points to something not right about this. And the police-----it has been confirmed----were thinking of charging GZ with manslaughter-----but they didn’t because of “lack of evidence.” Don’t know what that means—should be looked into. And some do think that GZ is somehow being protected by the police. Not saying that is true----but that also needs to be looked into.👍

But it could be other things, of course. I now admit that.

Personally, it goes other way for me regarding the words. used in the tape. Could be both “punks” and “c–n” however you intepret it.

Nancy Grace, by chance, thinks she hears a racial slur. Go figure.🤷

The Florida investigative team has hired top-notch voice experts to analyze the tape and the words. They should be able to get to the bottom of this.

The truth should come and bring closure and healing to everyone. 👍🙂
If Nancy Grace can interpret it so that she can get her nostrils to flare and her mouth to foam for the camera, she will. I know I am beating a dead horse, but when I think of that woman who committed suicide after being on her show because of the grilling she got from Grace, I just loose it every time I see her name.
 
If Nancy Grace can interpret it so that she can get her nostrils to flare and her mouth to foam for the camera, she will. I know I am beating a dead horse, but when I think of that woman who committed suicide after being on her show because of the grilling she got from Grace, I just loose it every time I see her name.
Yes, that was very repugnant what she did to that woman.

Even if the woman was guilty (we’ll never know) it was not Nancy Disgrace’s job to try the case on national television without a jury or lawyers.
She must have thought God Himself appointed her as the determiner of legal truth in these United States.
Gee, Nancy, DO get over yourself.

Indeed.
 
No one uses the word “goons” anymore. It was definitely the other one. Come on, maybe a first grade teacher or an 85-year-old man would use “goons” to describe someone being a little silly, but Z was angry, and I think it’s pretty likely (I can’t say with certainty of course) that he used the slur.
 
I personally feel that GZ acted irresponsibly and "jumoed the gun,’ so to speak, regarding Treyvon martin. I was emotional when i wrote that. I’m sorry—I think the evidence points to something not right about this. And the police-----it has been confirmed----were thinking of charging GZ with manslaughter-----but they didn’t because of “lack of evidence.” Don’t know what that means—should be looked into. And some do think that GZ is somehow being protected by the police. Not saying that is true----but that also needs to be looked into.👍

But it could be other things, of course. I now admit that.

Personally, it goes other way for me regarding the words. used in the tape. Could be both “punks” and “c–n” however you intepret it.

Nancy Grace, by chance, thinks she hears a racial slur. Go figure.🤷

The Florida investigative team has hired top-notch voice experts to analyze the tape and the words. They should be able to get to the bottom of this.

The truth should come and bring closure and healing to everyone. 👍🙂
we are in total agreement that a thorough investigation is needed without people jumping to conclusions.

you know i had read over and over that people weren’t sure if it was goon or c**n, so i was prepared to hear either via the power of suggestion, and it really did blow my mind how blatantly obvious it was that he was saying punks. where is that hard k sound coming from?

as far as nancy grace goes, my guess is she knows she’d probably be getting death threats if she appeared to be defending george. while i haven’t seen her reporting on this, from what has been posted, it sounds like she chose the side of the popular mob.

we’ll see. i just want the truth to come out, justice to be served. i am saddened that someone’s life is lost and that parents are grieving. i am also sad for the thousands of other cases of violence that occur all around the world every day.
 
I heard an “n” sound at the end of the word, not an “x”. I thought the controversy was betwen the gutterals, coons and goons.
maybe i need to get my hearing checked because by the link i posted from the orlando sentinel i can only hear punks. nothing close to oon, goon or c**n.
 
Here is a look at the video of George Zimmerman coming into the police station, if anyone wants to see if his head looked bashed smashed, or whatever.

miamiherald.com/2012/03/28/2719868/network-broadcasts-surveillance.html
Treyvon’s parents are on Piers Morgan right now saying GZ did not look TM had beaten the c—p out of him. That is one of the reasons they suspected GZ may have been lying. And they do have a point.

Look at the video of him in the police station handcuffed. Does he look like his head was smashed against the curb? 🤷

But yes, I admit…it could be something that does not look obvious at first sight.
Let’s try and see what the investigation yields. But for the life of me, I don’t see GZ’s “injuries.”
But that’s just me.
Piers Morgan agrees with the parents’s assesment, if it matters. But then again, could be wrong. 🤷

This is so weird and frustrating.

Lord, help us.
 
No one uses the word “goons” anymore. It was definitely the other one. Come on, maybe a first grade teacher or an 85-year-old man would use “goons” to describe someone being a little silly, but Z was angry, and I think it’s pretty likely (I can’t say with certainty of course) that he used the slur.
i use the word goon quite often and i’m not a senior citizen. it’s funny, but i was thinking only older southerners tend to use the word, "c**n and i’ve never heard one hispanic say it in my entire life. it’s an outdated derogatory term or maybe i should say far, far less popular if one is going to throw around racial insults.
 
i use the word goon quite often and i’m not a senior citizen. it’s funny, but i was thinking only older southerners tend to use the word, "c**n and i’ve never heard one hispanic say it in my entire life. it’s an outdated derogatory term or maybe i should say far, far less popular if one is going to throw around racial insults.
I live in the South and I have never heard anyone use the word c**n. On the other hand I have heard goon, multiple times.
 
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