Trump accuses Obama administration of wiretapping Trump Tower phones

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flowerz4rabbits said:
Honestly, the best pizza in Austin, and maybe some of the best I’ve tried in my many travels. I highly suggest you “investigate.”

Check out their menu. My pal works there, so I’m sure he’d be more than obliged to give you a tour of the so-called “sex dungeon.”

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I’ve actually been inside comet ping pong many times. Never saw any child abuse.

Or am I part of the conspiracy?! (cue ominous music)
 
flowerz4rabbits said:
Honestly, the best pizza in Austin, and maybe some of the best I’ve tried in my many travels. I highly suggest you “investigate.”

Check out their menu. My pal works there, so I’m sure he’d be more than obliged to give you a tour of the so-called “sex dungeon.”

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Other people have supposedly seen and experienced different thing with the owner.

But fine I’m not doubting you. This “subject” which was not even started by me is done, I guess.

One thing though:
I am very upset right now…but thanks for you helping it with your sarcasm. Guess idiots like me do not deserve any understanding.

That is just what I need.

Thank you for help me see what a moron I am. Have a nice night. I guess even Catholics are not immune from dismissive arguments.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
Other people have supposedly seen and experienced different thing with the owner.

But fine I’m not doubting you. This “subject” which was not even started by me is done, I guess.

One thing though:
I am very upset right now…but thanks for you helping it with your sarcasm. Guess idiots like me do not deserve any understanding.

That is just what I need.

Thank you for help me see what a moron I am. Have a nice night. I guess even Catholics are not immune from dismissive arguments.
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You’re not an idiot or a moron, which is why I’m surprised to see you taking this tack. Based on some of your other posts, it’s clear that you’re a pretty sharp guy. Which is why it’s puzzling that you seem to be bolstering a guy who is, by all appearances, not quite right. I wasn’t being caustic when I told CU to seek professional help. He sincerely seems disturbed.

and look, some arguments deserve to be dismissed with contempt. If someone got on here and said the holocaust never happened, I wouldn’t go, “well let’s not rush to judgment, look at this fringe nutjob I found…” No, id say it’s facially ridiculous and the poster is delusional.

But, in the spirit of charity, we can let this one go.
 
flowerz4rabbits said:
We can agree there.

I personally have more faith in our justice department than President Trump, who has a track record of lying.

But perhaps time will tell.

Just be cautious of believing everything he says with no evidence to back it up, please.

I read the Intelligence Committee appointed to investigate the Russia ties has also stated that they will investigate the wire tapping allegations as part of the probe. Will be interesting to see what happens.

My next question, if they deemed wire tapping occurred, but was legally justifiable - would you believe them? What differentiates fake news vs. real news to you? Where is the line? Is it only determined by the source?

That’s what scares me.
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To me it is more about being illegal. Wiretapping is illegal at this point in time without anything being brought to the open to determine why it was done. If it was justified, that’s mean there was proof, and it is likely they would exposed the treason, or whatever it was.

However, it was more of a fishing trip, spying on your political opponent to see if there was anything useful that could be used to discredit him or to bring him down. So it was dirty business there.

It is not so much that Trump was lying; we do not know if he was. But, he got valid point in wanting to know how the leak came about and somebody must be answerable to it. From all speculation, it was impossible for Obama not to know about it and if there was an order for wiretapping, he was the guy ultimately responsible.
 
These Satanic Pedophile rings are much bigger than just Comet Ping Pong Pizza; these Pedophile rings are world-wide. People, who deny that the elite want to take down Jeff Sessions because of his promise to arrest high-profile Pedophiles, do not realize the scope of Satanic Ritual Abuse.

If Trump and Putin are crooked together, than this country is finished.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
Ok. That proves that your knowledge of rhetoric and logic is better than mine. Cool. 👍👍

I was just pointing out that attacking the carrier of the message while ignoring the evidence (whether objectively credible or not) is typical of debunkers.

If TMC decides after watching the Youtube screen that he is still not convinced, ok. But don’t dismiss it without considering the points. That is what he/she seemed to be doing.
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I didn’t mean to offend. This issue comes up very often, and it seemed to me that on a thread that is so, ah, multi-faceted, that it might be a good one to make the point.
 
Catholic_Unity said:
Veterans Today
veteranstoday.com/2017/03/05/democrats-and-pizzagate/
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Now that is one crackpot website.

Its author/owner/whatever (a disbarred lawyer) is still banging the birther drum. And not just banging it, but adding insane layer upon layer. Obama’s father was a Mau-Mau gunrunner, Obama is not genetically related to the woman we all thought was his mother, etc. Apparently the author has access to Obama’s DNA. I shudder to think how.

So no surprise that he’s jumped on the Pizzagate wagon.

CU, you gotta get a grip here. You are a Trump supporter? Fine, and I would welcome discussion on policy. But this other stuff – it isn’t helping you or anyone else.
 
Wasn’t this “story” originally published by Breitbart, followed by trump tweeting about it?

If this is coming from Breitbart it holds zero water. All this talk about fake news and they are the epitome of that.
 
chero23 said:
The site said error.

But I did look it up through google, and it said that approximately 30% of DC might be involved in this probe. I have a feeling that conservatives and democrats will be involved.
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30% of DC?

Hmm. Washington, DC has a population of approximately 660,000. So 30% of that would be around 198,000 (and that’s not counting commuters!).

The DC metro area has a population of about 6,000,000. 30% of that would be 1,800,000.

How do they all fit into the pizza shop? And how did the pizza makers make enough pizza to feed them all?

I mean, even if they waited on line, they’d have to wait for months and months. Years, maybe.
 
Inisfallen said:
Now that is one crackpot website.

Its author/owner/whatever (a disbarred lawyer) is still banging the birther drum. And not just banging it, but adding insane layer upon layer. Obama’s father was a Mau-Mau gunrunner, Obama is not genetically related to the woman we all thought was his mother, etc. Apparently the author has access to Obama’s DNA. I shudder to think how.

So no surprise that he’s jumped on the Pizzagate wagon.

CU, you gotta get a grip here. You are a Trump supporter? Fine, and I would welcome discussion on policy. But this other stuff – it isn’t helping you or anyone else.
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We are helping the children and you are not.
 
There’s another thread in this forum asking if the United States is entering a civil war.

Funny. When I go into the real world, and generally live my life, I don’t think it is. Sure, there’s disagreement, and even some rancor, but we’re doing OK. I get along fine with my brother the fervent Trump supporter, and my wife, the non-Trump-supporting conservative. They think I’m alright, too, even if I’m way too liberal for them. The Trump supporters I’m acquainted with know that the country survived Obama. The liberals know that the country will survive Trump. It takes more than four years (or eight years) to break the United States.

At work, everyone gets along. Muslims, Orthodox Jews, Catholics like me, atheists. We talk about all kinds of stuff. A Muslim dude at the office (seconded to the NY office from the Riyadh office) asked me about my ashes last Wednesday. I explained. He was interested. We had an interesting conversation about religion. Cool. That’s how it should be.

But then I come here, and I wonder. Especially lately, if I judged the whole country by this forum, I would think the civil war is well under way. I would think the United States is about to disintegrate. I would think that a significant percentage of the population has lost its grip on reality. I would be really, really scared. I’d start hoarding freeze-dried food or something. Maybe even get a gun. Or move up to my wife’s family’s island home in rural Canada.

I think that means I have to spend less time here and more time out there in the real world.
 
Inisfallen said:
30% of DC?

Hmm. Washington, DC has a population of approximately 660,000. So 30% of that would be around 198,000 (and that’s not counting commuters!).

The DC metro area has a population of about 6,000,000. 30% of that would be 1,800,000.

How do they all fit into the pizza shop? And how did the pizza makers make enough pizza to feed them all?

I mean, even if they waited on line, they’d have to wait for months and months. Years, maybe.
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You keep forgetting, these pedophile rings are word-wide. Child rape and murder happens world-wide. Child rape and murder happens in more than just 1 location in Washington DC. Up to one out of every three politicians’ and mainstream media anchors are compromised.
 
Inisfallen said:
There’s another thread in this forum asking if the United States is entering a civil war.

Funny. When I go into the real world, and generally live my life, I don’t think it is. Sure, there’s disagreement, and even some rancor, but we’re doing OK. I get along fine with my brother the fervent Trump supporter, and my wife, the non-Trump-supporting conservative. They think I’m alright, too, even if I’m way too liberal for them. The Trump supporters I’m acquainted with know that the country survived Obama. The liberals know that the country will survive Trump. It takes more than four years (or eight years) to break the United States.

At work, everyone gets along. Muslims, Orthodox Jews, Catholics like me, atheists. We talk about all kinds of stuff. A Muslim dude at the office (seconded to the NY office from the Riyadh office) asked me about my ashes last Wednesday. I explained. He was interested. We had an interesting conversation about religion. Cool. That’s how it should be.

But then I come here, and I wonder. Especially lately, if I judged the whole country by this forum, I would think the civil war is well under way. I would think the United States is about to disintegrate. I would think that a significant percentage of the population has lost its grip on reality. I would be really, really scared. I’d start hoarding freeze-dried food or something. Maybe even get a gun. Or move up to my wife’s family’s island home in rural Canada.

I think that means I have to spend less time here and more time out there in the real world.
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You won’t like the real world very soon.

Clif High-Chaos Starts Middle of March
youtube.com/watch?v=SXFJUAf9afA&t=629s
 
The question may now become was the CIA involved in any way?

Evidence is clearly shown on Wikileaks the CIA had the ability to hack and spy on anyone and then could then use sophisticated tools to frame another country like Russia.

Proves Flynn was right about the CIA.

 
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