Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words for Haiti and Africa

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stinkcat_14 said:
I foreigners I have hired have all had American degrees. You have a problem with American degrees?
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They aren’t so great either. But you are talking about people who are wealthy enough to come to the US and go to college. Again, the people we are talking about hop on a crudely constructed raft and float over.
stinkcat_14 said:
Some immigrants engage in import-export businesses, transferring the knowledge they learn in the US to the foreign country. Dollars sent overseas always come back in one form or another.
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The things which that dollar purchase stay in that foreign country.
 
exnihilo said:
They aren’t so great either. But you are talking about people who are wealthy enough to come to the US and go to college. Again, the people we are talking about hop on a crudely constructed raft and float over.
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Do the people you are talking about have visas before they leave?
 
exnihilo said:
Obama, among other things, called Libya a ****house. No one batted an eye when the Dear Leader said that. But they all swooned when Trump said it.
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Obama referred to the escalating violence in Libya as a “*** show”, not a “***house”. It’s something he should not have said, but it is not what Trump said.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Which countries are those. I know there are some questionable universities in Somalia.
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Don’t you think every country has questionable universities, just some more so than others?
Probably with OECD countries there is a certification system that can be relied upon, but less so in developing countries.
 
lmachine said:
Obama referred to the escalating violence in Libya as a “*** show”, not a “***house”. It’s something he should not have said, but it is not what Trump said.
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OK, I didn’t have it exactly right. Why is it Obama refers to the conditions but Trump refers to the people? Other than a bias against Trump?
 
I’m saying we should address the shortage of skills. If we need priests right now, fine, bring them in. But more importantly, we need to address the lack of ordinations within our own country! For any skill it is the same: how are we, a country of over 300 million people, suffering from a lack of skills? If we are, then we need to solve that problem!
SuperLuigi said:
All the left wants are more voters. Their culture of death is preventing their demographic destiny.
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So true. I know Rush Limbaugh often tells a story that reveals this:

A bunch of congressmen and senators took Rush out to dinner to try to convince him to sign on to amnesty. Finally he answered them:

He would be willing to come out in full-support of amnesty if, and only if, it was tied to a bill that said immigrants could not vote for 20 years after they became citizens.

Not a single person took him up on the offer. It’s so clearly not about actually giving people a better life, or bringing in new skills… It’s all about votes.

Personally, I would make the same agreement, but I would be way tougher than Rush. I’d say they can’t ever vote and none of their progeny can vote either until 50 years has passed. Give me that bill, and I’ll accept amnesty.
 
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While I enjoyed the story, we can’t have second class citizens that have no weight with their local elected officials.

I think we should just stop using immigration as a pseudo back door refugee program for illegals.
The requirements for refugee status are specific and well defined; they are about persecution, not whether your home country is poor and you have high aspirations for a life in the US.

I’m also open to taking more legal refugees, if we focus regular immigration to be merit based and curtail chain migration.
 
I would only say that we already have ‘second class citizens’ living in this country. Immigrants with green cards and illegals ostensibly cannot vote, but they seem to get along just fine. Create a special class of citizen.

I would be okay with taking refugees as long as:
  1. They are fleeing specific threats to their person. No more “my country is at war” stuff.
  2. They are not permanent residents and they go home when the threat has ended, and take their anchor babies with them.
Personally, I want 0 permanent immigration for the next 100 years. None. Zip. Nada.
 
Theo520 said:
While I enjoyed the story, we can’t have second class citizens that have no weight with their local elected officials.
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Not being able to vote doesn’t make you a second class citizen. It wasn’t always the case that just having a heartbeat (or not in Chicago) entitled you to vote.
 
ChunkMonk said:
I would only say that we already have ‘second class citizens’ living in this country. Immigrants with green cards and illegals ostensibly cannot vote, but they seem to get along just fine. Create a special class of citizen.

I would be okay with taking refugees as long as:

They are fleeing specific threats to their person. No more “my country is at war” stuff.
They are not permanent residents and they go home when the threat has ended, and take their anchor babies with them.

Personally, I want 0 permanent immigration for the next 100 years. None. Zip. Nada.
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What the UN agreement on refugees says we are supposed to do actually fits with your thinking. When people are fleeing a general conflict, the camps should be on their borders and they return home after the fighting has stopped.

Immigration visas were to support religious and ethnic minorities that had no reasonable protection of their rights in their home country. In practice this would mean Christian’s from the Middle East qualify, or Muslims from Myanmar, but not Muslims from the majority sects in Syria or Iraq, etc.
 
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I’ve said I’m fine with the same thing or people from other countries voting in our elections if we can get abortion and so-called gay “marriage” on the ballot.
 
lmachine said:
And yes, half a dozen lawmakers whose only disagreement is whether Trump said “shole” or “shouse” are a more reliable source of information than one senator claiming something on TV without giving details.
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You’re the only person I can think of who has called a group of lawmakers “reliable”.
 
Ridgerunner said:
But language aside, the question is whether this country’s immigration policies should favor people with no skills and from culturally alien countries instead of people who can add something to the economy?
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I think you are right. An assumption is being made that people from these $hithole countries are automatically people with no skills and are “culturally alien”. This stance is the epitome of prejudice.

A case in point

 
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