Trump Massive Rally in Washington DC (Nov. 14th) (Tens of Thousands Gather)

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Gorgias:
Have any proof of it, or is it just your preconceived opinion? 😉
The Hill even reported on it in 2016.
Social media is big media?
This!
For example, President Trump has said that the election was rigged.
Trump has said many things. Not all are gems, or even rational. YMMV.
Then Russia Collusion without evidence and the Impeachment debacle?
“Russia interfered in the election” seems to be held up to scrutiny. “Trump was involved in the interference” seems unproven… although “Trump didn’t stop the interference” is more likely.

Nevertheless, does that give Trump cover or justification to attempt to finangle the 2020 election? I would say “no”.
Do you mean social media is not media or not big ?
No. They’re not ‘media’, in the sense of journalists. When Trump says “big media”, I presume he’s talking the networks and CNN (and even Fox News).
 
Issues like this.
According to Judicial Watch, which sued state Secretary of State Jena Griswold, a Democrat, a 2019 study showed 40 of Colorado’s 64 counties had voter registration rates exceeding 100% of the eligible citizens.

How do you get more voter registration than people in district. Colorado allows undocumented drivers to get license so did the DMV mess up their voter registration.
 
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Trump said they rigged the election months ago probably shortly after Covid because the request for mail-in ballots was way off the charts. Voter numbers from 2016 were not adding up so they knew this election had the potential for massive fraud.
He said this as the polls said he was going to lose.

He made these allegations without a shred of proof, just to condition his people to believe that he had won if he lost.

So, look at it this way: Trump won last time, in 2016, with an even thinner margin in some some battleground states. Are you saying that wasn’t free and fair and Trump stole the election? No, of course you aren’t. It’s only when it’s close and your guy lost that there’s a problem.
 
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Well the problems being discussed now do not appear to be unique to this election cycle, nor unique to one side of politics. The fact that they were quiet when their candidate won in 2016, despite what appears to be an equal chance of that result being obtained by fraud, says something about their likely motives.
Trump was spouting election fraud, mail in ballot fraud, and “rigged elections” for MONTHS before the 2016 election. Right up until he won.

This is the same exact baseless . . . rantings . . . again in 2020.
 
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HarryStotle:
The Dem Party is pushing for non-citizen voting and open borders. I don’t think that will turn out well for the country even if it does benefit the Dem Party short term.
Could you please cite who favors this? I have heard no one come out for such notions.

It is the Democratic party, by the way. Anything else is a slur and out of bounds on the forum.
An abbreviated form is now a slur?

Just so I know …

… is Penn a slur?
… Mich?
… Rep?

What about Drumpf?

Or “Orange Man Cheeto-In-Chief Drumpf?”
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How about “Orange Man Cheeto-In-Chief Drumpf.”
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Just trying to get clear on the rules.
 
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gam197:
Trump said they rigged the election months ago probably shortly after Covid because the request for mail-in ballots was way off the charts. Voter numbers from 2016 were not adding up so they knew this election had the potential for massive fraud.
He said this as the polls said he was going to lose.

He made these allegations without a shred of proof, just to condition his people to believe that he had won if he lost.

So, look at it this way: Trump won last time, in 2016, with an even thinner margin in some some battleground states. Are you saying that wasn’t free and fair and Trump stole the election? No, of course you aren’t. It’s only when it’s close and your guy lost that there’s a problem.
There was a whole thread on this is way back in May, on these forums about voter fraud. Trump saw there was fraud going on.
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Now, mail-in votes are a means for vote fraud? " WASHINGTON — President Trump on Wednesday escalated his assault against mail voting, falsely claiming that Michigan and Nevada were engaged in voter fraud and had acted illegally, and threatening to withhold federal funds to those states if they proceed in expanding vote-by-mail efforts. The president inaccurately accused Michigan of sending mail ballots to its residents. In fact, the secretary of state in Michigan sent applications for mail bal…
 
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He made these allegations without a shred of proof, just to condition his people to believe that he had won if he lost.
Just to be clear…

… YOU know everything that the President — in his office as commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces with all access to information from all the intelligence agencies in the United States including the ODNI — has access to and with that knowledge you are able to conclude that he has “not a shred of proof?”

You are better placed to make a determination regarding “shreds of proof” than the President of the United States and all of those intelligence agencies?

🥴

Who are you?
 
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HarryStotle:
Just trying to get clear on the rules.
Worry about your own self first. You control you.
You may want to reflect on the irony of that statement.





I thought part of the Democrat platform and a central tenet of progressive leftism was: "We control you."

I am happy 😉 to hear you don’t agree with any of that.
 
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Nevertheless, does that give Trump cover or justification to attempt to finangle the 2020 election? I would say “no”.
You, too, would have to pit your “I would say ‘no,’” against what cover or justification the President may have that you don’t have access to.

Whether the finangling is justified should best be left up to the justification process and not pre-judged by we who don’t have access to but a small shred of the relevant information.

Maybe you will turn out to be correct.

However, there is no way that you could know that now. Ergo, your guess relative to justification is as good as mine, although my guess is that I have done a bit more research into it than you have. But I freely admit that I might be wrong on that, as well.
 
That’s her campaign page from when she was running for Governor. Note the “Stacey Abrams for Governor” and “Stacey Abrams is running for governor” bits. She does not presently claim to be the governor of Georgia.
 
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PaulinVA:
He made these allegations without a shred of proof, just to condition his people to believe that he had won if he lost.
Just to be clear…

… YOU know everything that the President — in his office as commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces with all access to information from all the intelligence agencies in the United States including the ODNI — has access to and with that knowledge you are able to conclude that he has “not a shred of proof?”

You are better placed to make a determination regarding “shreds of proof” than the President of the United States and all of those intelligence agencies?

🥴

Who are you?
Well, his “information from all the intelligence agencies” so far hasn’t amounted so far to a hill of beans in court where it counts. And given he’s been raising the issue of fraud for months, you’d think by now he’d have his guns pretty well fully loaded and ready to go evidence- and information- wise, and have avoided going to court with, it seems, nothing substantial.
 
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Perhaps he should have done something to prevent the fraud from happening if he knew all about it that long ago. Otherwise it comes off as all hat and no cattle.
 
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HarryStotle:
You may want to reflect on the irony of that statement.
Don’t make excuses for what you do based on the misdeeds of others.
You are able to read my intentions that by abbreviating Democrat Party I was intending it to be a slur?

I didn’t realize there was someone else inhabiting my brain. Wave to me as you pass by.

I can assure you that typing on a small device with big fingers makes me averse to typing longer words especially since half the words I type need correcting in any case.

I am also a workaholic with little to do these days except read a whole lot, clean a basement and post on CAF. (Well, okay, … … … and take orders from Putin. You caught me!)

But do go on and think badly of me if you wish.
 
Perhaps he should have done something to prevent the fraud from happening if he knew all about it that long ago. Otherwise it comes off as all hat and no cattle.
Seems to me that if you prevent the fraud you don’t actually rope the cattle, if you get my drift.

Maybe I will be eating my hat, but I do prefer steak. 😉
 
Well, his “information from all the intelligence agencies” so far hasn’t amounted so far to a hill of beans in court where it counts. And given he’s been raising the issue of fraud for months, you’d think by now he’d have his guns pretty well fully loaded and ready to go evidence- and information- wise, and have avoided going to court with, it seems, nothing substantial.
Yes, you would think that wouldn’t you?
 
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Nepperhan:
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HarryStotle:
You may want to reflect on the irony of that statement.
Don’t make excuses for what you do based on the misdeeds of others.
You are able to read my intentions that by abbreviating Dem ocrat Party I was intending it to be a slur?

I didn’t realize there was someone else inhabiting my brain. Wave to me as you pass by.

I can assure you that typing on a small device with big fingers makes me averse to typing longer words especially since half the words I type need correcting in any case.

I am also a workaholic with little to do these days except read a whole lot, clean a basement and post on CAF. (Well, okay, … … … and take orders from Putin. You caught me!)

But do go on and think badly of me if you wish.
Believe they will and attack you when they can. Many claim to be Catholics but some are trolls and come here only to correct Catholics. For the Catholics, their sense of charity seems to disappear if you supported Trump as president…
 
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