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True! So one could say, in a small way, Trump is supporting Hillary Clinton! Priceless!Interesting that with Trump the money flows the other way - he donates money to PP. What does that say about him?
True! So one could say, in a small way, Trump is supporting Hillary Clinton! Priceless!Interesting that with Trump the money flows the other way - he donates money to PP. What does that say about him?
Itās not magic; they just canāt stand Democrats. And even the GOP hates Cruz.This is the magic: Jeanne S and Giuliani BOTH support Trump.
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Another interesting Trump factoid. Trump is well known for openly answering questions many politicians dodge. But the one question he consistently refuses to answer? Whether he has paid for any abortions. Why do you think he refuses to answer that particular question?This is the magic: Jeanne S and Giuliani BOTH support Trump.
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His followers just say it was pre-conversion. Reverend Wright stuff. Back in the dayā¦Another interesting Trump factoid. Trump is well known for openly answering questions many politicians dodge. But the one question he consistently refuses to answer? Whether he has paid for any abortions. Why do you think he refuses to answer that particular question?
Excuse me? You assume much.My reply was in reference to HC and her support of abortion.DT supports them as well so how does that mean I support DT?This is the magic: Jeanne S and Giuliani BOTH support Trump.
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Not difficult to figure out. And why wonāt he release his tax return? He keeps giving the excuse that itās being audited, but the IRS said he could release it anyway. Yet he does not. The only conclusion I can come to is that there is something in it he definitely does not want the electorate to see.Another interesting Trump factoid. Trump is well known for openly answering questions many politicians dodge. But the one question he consistently refuses to answer? Whether he has paid for any abortions. Why do you think he refuses to answer that particular question?
Sorry Jeanne! After I wrote that I realized that. I am so sorry. Did NOT mean to call you out at all as a Trump supporter. I donāt know who you support.Excuse me? You assume much.My reply was in reference to HC and her support of abortion.DT supports them as well so how does that mean I support DT?![]()
Of course she is Planned parenthood has given her millions over the yearsI think the doctors making millions from abortions are more abortion minded than Hillary Clinton. And the nurses and others who work with them. Hillary is pro-choice, but sheās not making any money off that stance.
I think you have been misled. Do you have any proof?Of course she is Planned parenthood has given her millions over the years
Trump would absolutely be my last choice.Ascawful as he is in many ways ,he is still a better option than Hillary Clinton.That is a sad reality.Sorry Jeanne! After I wrote that I realized that. I am so sorry. Did NOT mean to call you out at all as a Trump supporter. I donāt know who you support.
(but I did honestly think it was Trump based on your previous posts)
Then isnāt Hillary Clinton your absolutely last choice? Sorry if I misread.Trump would absolutely be my last choice.Ascawful as he is in many ways ,he is still a better option than Hillary Clinton.That is a sad reality.![]()
HC isnāt even an option at allThen isnāt Hillary Clinton your absolutely last choice? Sorry if I misread.
My absolutely last choice would be Cruz.
Trump is a shape-shifting demagogue and Cruz is a far-right ideologueā¦scary choiceThen isnāt Hillary Clinton your absolutely last choice? Sorry if I misread.
My absolutely last choice would be Cruz.
What is HC in your opinion? Just askingā¦Trump is a shape-shifting demagogue and Cruz is a far-right ideologueā¦scary choice![]()
Ah, I see what you did there. From āTrump really, really wants to be presidentā to getting-the-GOP-nomination could happen.I think it could. He still could pull out the nomination before the convention, although I admit, that would be very difficult. For the Republicans to deny him the nomination when heād be only 50 delegates shy, would be a travesty that would greatly injure the Republican Party. And Iām no Trump supporter, but a lot of people are.
I agree 100%.Trump is a shape-shifting demagogue and Cruz is a far-right ideologueā¦scary choice![]()
I view her as an unpersonable, Wall Street-friendly, pro-choice establishment figure with a thirst for power and a tendency towards the corrupt. That said, sheās definitely qualified for the job in terms of resume. I just donāt like her public persona. I donāt know what sheās like in private but in public she lacks people friendliness and sincerity.What is HC in your opinion? Just askingā¦
Trump is like many businessmen. Heās all process. He doesnāt have an ideology. People like him are problem solvers. Their joy is in fixing things; in making them work, in turning something around from a loser to a winner. Thatās what really motivates them. Itās not power and itās not money. Itās the joy of making things work, of turning a bunch of junk into something of beauty and utility.
Since Americans (and many others) have become so accustomed to the idea that we absolutely must devote ourselves to political ideology, we are as baffled as a calf at a new gate when we see a purely functionary person dare to run for political office.
But where has ideology gotten us lately? āFundamentally changing Americaā, āArab Springā, ācultural diversityā even ācompassionate conservatismā. Not worth a plugged nickel in any real way. Hillary is now trying out a re-warmed version of āNew Dealā with her āNew Bargainā. A bargain of what sort? To keep paying and borrowing and to put up with corruption without daring to say anything? Some bargain that is.
I concur with your adroit assessment that Trump is a man of āprocessā rather than āideologyā (although I do feel he is power-hungry as well, just in different way from Mrs. Clintonā¦He thrives on being top dog. Canāt top being POTUS unless your trying to compete with God). Certainly, that can be beneficial under some circumstances. It can be interpreted as a down-to-earth, objective/non-partisan pragmatism but letās not forget: it can also be seen as Machiavellian, without scruples, bereft of any concrete guiding principles. Youāve opted for the first appraisal of Trump (I feel), whereas I have opted for the second.Maybe we would all find it refreshing to elect a president who actually had the ability and the motivation to make things work better without feeling compelled to adopt some crack-brained ideology to justify doing it.
OMG, whoops (I thought you liked him). I agree with you on Trump being the awful, absolutely last choice that is. I am almost on board myself. But simply because we have hit the end of the road, and it is a wall (no pun intended). No other workable option.Trump would absolutely be my last choice.Ascawful as he is in many ways ,he is still a better option than Hillary Clinton.That is a sad reality.![]()