Two Priests now going at it in wake of Hannity Scandal

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Here’s Fr. Euteneuer’s letter in reply to Fr. Morris…

Dear Father Jonathan,

Your letter to Sean Hannity indicates that you did not know that I asked to speak to him in private about this matter in 2004 otherwise you may have tempered your remarks about my supposed lack of charity in dealing with a high profile Catholic who dissents from clearly-defined and reiterated Church teachings. [See “http://www.hli.org/article_fr_tom_requests_meeting_with_hannity.html”]Fr. Euteneuer asks to meet with Hannity about birth control
” on sidebar.] You also seemed to be unaware of the fact that Sean was the one who invited me on his program and who then promptly “[threw] civility to the wind,” refused to display “cultivated intelligence” on the issues and jeopardized another person’s “reputation and dignity.” May I also point out that you did not employ with me the same standard of “fraternal correction” that you expected me to employ with Mr. Hannity. I at least made the attempt to speak to him about this issue in private without success; you, in contrast, went immediately to the internet to take me to task. I do not intend to understand your motives; I can only evaluate what I see in your actions.

The question that comes to mind is an obvious one: if you are a Fox analyst on Catholic matters, wouldn’t you have been the one to have had those “private conversations” on birth control with Mr. Hannity? How about discussions on his abortion exceptions? When you told Sean “in person” that you “disagreed with him,” was it on the issue of birth control? If you had done that, I applaud you, but your powers of persuasion may need a little honing—Sean has only gotten more vocal on this issue over time. If you did not speak to him about his public dissent, then I ask you, “Why?” While we are on the subject, have you also analyzed and disagreed with Bill O’Reilly’s perfectly horrible disdain for the Holy Father and the Church that you represent?

The church sex abuse scandal was not just about homosexual and predatory priests. It was about clerical negligence and silence on issues that not only affect people’s souls but also ruin people’s lives. It is highly unusual that you or anyone else would want a priest to be silent on issues that affect the salvation of souls. We used to recognize “admonishing the sinner” as one of the Spiritual Works of Mercy, and I consider my admonishment of Mr. Hannity to have been done in that spirit. I might also add that in doing so I have fulfilled my duty as a priest which is a requirement for *my *salvation.

As a seminary rector, I would sincerely hope that you are not teaching by word or example the young men in your charge to be politically correct sissies who are afraid to roll up their sleeves and defend the Church in private and in public. We have tons of those types in the clergy already. I would advise you to drink deeply of the wisdom of the Number Two man at our Headquarters who has in no uncertain terms told all of us that high profile dissenters are a scourge and a danger to souls. [See item: “Bertone: Dissident Catholics More Worrying Than Atheists.”

lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011003.html.]

I wish you fraternal blessings for your priestly work.

Sincerely,

Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer
President
Human Life International

hli.org/article_open_letter_to_fr_morris.html

Thank you for posting this letter,

I wonder if some realize Father tried to speak to Mr Hannity in person first.
 
Father E is in no way the man. I am growing in dislike for him as time progresses and the more I read him. He comes across, to me, with his nose in the air. I can’t understand this whole situation.

Did he not read Father Jonathan’s letter, it started;
I find Fr. E to be sincere and consistant.

I’m sorry to say I can’t say te same about Sean Hannity. Mr. Hannity loves to point the finger and label people “liberals” but when it comes to his immortal soul and understanding of the Church to which he claims to belong I wonder if he does that same pointing in the mirror?
 
Why did Sean keep bringing up the sexual abuse scandal? Why ? Why? It had nothing to do with the duscussion, but Sean felt it necessary to further criticize the Church or bring dishonor on it? What moivated Sean to do this?

It was Sean that did not respond to Fr. E’s private correspondence but wanted to put this fiasco on the air for public viewing for show ratings at the expense of the Church.

Satan was working through Sean Hannity, plain and simple. Sean needs our prayers very badly.
 
I heard Drew Mariani will be discussing this on his radio show today on Relevant Radio. Drew is on for 3 hours and the show starts 15 minutes from now.

If you do not get Relevant Radio in your area, you can listen over the internet at…

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Hmm, I stopped listening to Drew Mariani when he gave credence to Al Gore’s global warming nonsense a few weeks back. :confused: He actually praised Al Gore. :eek:

OK, I’m gonna give Drew another shot. But if he defends Sean Hannity, I’ll throw up. 😦
 
It was Sean that did not respond to Fr. E’s private correspondence but wanted to put this fiasco on the air for public viewing for show ratings at the expense of the Church.
Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.

Sean does a lot of good in talking as he is usually constantly on the side of the pro-lifers. It is hosts such as Al Franken that you have to watch out for, not Sean Hannity.
 
Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.

Sean does a lot of good in talking as he is usually constantly on the side of the pro-lifers. It is hosts such as Al Franken that you have to watch out for, not Sean Hannity.
  1. Sean was aware of the attempted contacts and his producers with Sean’s approval * scheduled Fr E for ‘Hannity and Combs’ on Fox News.
  2. Usually, it’s the sheep dressed in wolve’s clothing [Hannity], that you need to watch out for, as you already are keeping an eye on the wolves [Franken].*
 
Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.

Sean does a lot of good in talking as he is usually constantly on the side of the pro-lifers. It is hosts such as Al Franken that you have to watch out for, not Sean Hannity.
To claim Hannity does not know Church teaching on this matter seems a bit beyond realistic. He publicly contradicts what is Church teaching and he was publicly corrected. That should happen more often.
 
Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.
Bunk. The reality is that Sean Hannity (or support staff) is intelligent enough to screen out qualified correspondence. Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?
Sean does a lot of good in talking as he is usually constantly on the side of the pro-lifers. It is hosts such as Al Franken that you have to watch out for, not Sean Hannity.
You would have faithful Catholics believe that scandalous behavior from a very public and aggressive self-proclaimed Catholic voice is no longer something watch out for?
 
originally posted by setter
Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?
Agreed!
Neither Al Gore nor Al Franken claim to be Catholic so what they say and what is said to and about them is an entirely other ball game.
 
Bunk. T Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?
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Agreed. Sean does not get a ‘pass’ on being a faithful Catholic just because he’s really busy and important and visible. Indeed, his responsibility for his actions is all the greater.
 
  1. Sean was aware of the attempted contacts and his producers with Sean’s approval * scheduled Fr E for ‘Hannity and Combs’ on Fox News.
  1. Usually, it’s the sheep dressed in wolve’s clothing [Hannity], that you need to watch out for, as you already are keeping an eye on the wolves [Franken].*
Your not sure. You don’t know. Please do not say things which you are unaware of just as I am unaware of the situation when Fr. E of contacting Sean Hannity. To say Mr. Hannity is aware of all emails is not realistic. I can’t say he wasn’t nor can I say he was. You can not be so quick to be “sure”.
The wolf here is the wide majority of American Catholics and they are not to be treated as wolves but treated as brothers and sisters that need to be compassionately helped to better understand why the Church teaches many of the rules on ABC and other highly controversial teachings. Not pushed away or regarded as such a bad catholic. (Did you mean, a wolf in sheep clothing?) Bring your friends to a Theology of the Body talk, reach out to them don’t sit there telling them they are a heretic and need to repent, there is no good end there. Since Vatican II, the Church realized the change needed to evangelize people, the ways that worked in the past, may not be the best choice in todays world.
Bunk. The reality is that Sean Hannity (or support staff) is intelligent enough to screen out qualified correspondence. Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?
This is not nonsense. It is not excuses but the fact of pure humanity, your not going through every single email or letter, not “screening out qualified correspondence”… Again, I do not agree with Sean Hannity, I stand with the Church. But Father E acted in a way that was in my opinion, showed “shockingly poor judgment.”
Agreed!
Neither Al Gore nor Al Franken claim to be Catholic so what they say and what is said to and about them is an entirely other ball game.
Yes But John Kerry does, the speaker of the house does, Ted Kennedy does. Catholics that watch Mr. Hannity know that in many of previous shows, he is opposed to ABC, such as the case I remember when the law forced Catholic medical providers to provide ABC, Mr. Hannity supported the side of Catholic moral teaching and explained that ABC is not to be used.
 
Yes But John Kerry does, the speaker of the house does, Ted Kennedy does…
And now we get to the point. On this subject of ABC and professing to be catholic Mr. Hannity belongs squarely side by side with the above mentioned politicians.
 
And now we get to the point. On this subject of ABC and professing to be catholic Mr. Hannity belongs squarely side by side with the above mentioned politicians.
I strongly disagree. They are openly pro-choice in all matters, openly support ABC and openly deny any role of religion in their politics.

Sean claims no such extremes. Sean is the “lesser of the evils” to use a poor statement.
 
I strongly disagree. They are openly pro-choice in all matters, openly support ABC and openly deny any role of religion in their politics.

Sean claims no such extremes. Sean is the “lesser of the evils” to use a poor statement.
John Kerry claimed to be catholic but evidently doesn’t know his faith based on his voting record.

Sean Hannity claims to be catholic but evidently doesn’t know his faith based on is remarks.
 
John Kerry claimed to be catholic but evidently doesn’t know his faith based on his voting record.

Sean Hannity claims to be catholic but evidently doesn’t know his faith based on is remarks.
He may know what the Church teaches, but may neglect why. We can only guess to what his knowledge is to what extent. Instead of punishing him, let us try in a better way to bring him back full to the fold.
 
He may know what the Church teaches, but may neglect why. We can only guess to what his knowledge is to what extent. Instead of punishing him, let us try in a better way to bring him back full to the fold.
Don’t you mean a “nicer”, less confrontational way, albeit not necessarily more effective way?
 
Don’t you mean a “nicer”, less confrontational way, albeit not necessarily more effective way?
No, I am mean better and more effective.(We disagree what method is more effective.)

A way that does not shut people off. Different people, different circumstances call for different pastoral decisions.
 
No, I am mean better and more effective.(We disagree what method is more effective.)

A way that does not shut people off. Different people, different circumstances call for different pastoral decisions.
Exactly. Sean Hannity is the sort of person who needs swift firm correction when he’s in error, just as he himself would administer. He is extremely strong willed. This is why Father Euteneuer’s approach was more appropriate for Sean Hannity than would be Father Morris’ approach.

Keep in mind the difference in nature of these two priests, how and when they were each called to the priesthood, and how they live their vocations today. Father Morris was a college student when he decided to join the seminary, but Father Euteneuer was in the Marine Corps Officer Candidate Program. Today Father Morris is a teacher in a seminary, and a television commentator. Father Euteneuer is president of the world’s largest pro-life organization. Father Euteneuer has had vastly greater opportunities to see the real life evil which is product of the moral relativism Sean Hannity unfortunately preached. Father Euteneuer lives in a very violent world. Father Morris is somewhat protected in the ivory tower of the seminary. Father Morris is surrounded by people who share his understanding, and want to know more, whereas Father Euteneuer is on a mission to convert souls, sometimes incredibly violent souls.
 
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