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No doubt about it! Our priest tells us not just to pray for more priests but to pray for more “good priests”.We need more priests like Fr. E.
Just like Fr. E!
No doubt about it! Our priest tells us not just to pray for more priests but to pray for more “good priests”.We need more priests like Fr. E.
” on sidebar.] You also seemed to be unaware of the fact that Sean was the one who invited me on his program and who then promptly “[threw] civility to the wind,” refused to display “cultivated intelligence” on the issues and jeopardized another person’s “reputation and dignity.” May I also point out that you did not employ with me the same standard of “fraternal correction” that you expected me to employ with Mr. Hannity. I at least made the attempt to speak to him about this issue in private without success; you, in contrast, went immediately to the internet to take me to task. I do not intend to understand your motives; I can only evaluate what I see in your actions.Here’s Fr. Euteneuer’s letter in reply to Fr. Morris…
Dear Father Jonathan,
Your letter to Sean Hannity indicates that you did not know that I asked to speak to him in private about this matter in 2004 otherwise you may have tempered your remarks about my supposed lack of charity in dealing with a high profile Catholic who dissents from clearly-defined and reiterated Church teachings. [See “http://www.hli.org/article_fr_tom_requests_meeting_with_hannity.html”]Fr. Euteneuer asks to meet with Hannity about birth control
I find Fr. E to be sincere and consistant.Father E is in no way the man. I am growing in dislike for him as time progresses and the more I read him. He comes across, to me, with his nose in the air. I can’t understand this whole situation.
Did he not read Father Jonathan’s letter, it started;
Hmm, I stopped listening to Drew Mariani when he gave credence to Al Gore’s global warming nonsense a few weeks back.I heard Drew Mariani will be discussing this on his radio show today on Relevant Radio. Drew is on for 3 hours and the show starts 15 minutes from now.
If you do not get Relevant Radio in your area, you can listen over the internet at…
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Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.It was Sean that did not respond to Fr. E’s private correspondence but wanted to put this fiasco on the air for public viewing for show ratings at the expense of the Church.
Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.
Sean does a lot of good in talking as he is usually constantly on the side of the pro-lifers. It is hosts such as Al Franken that you have to watch out for, not Sean Hannity.
To claim Hannity does not know Church teaching on this matter seems a bit beyond realistic. He publicly contradicts what is Church teaching and he was publicly corrected. That should happen more often.Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.
Sean does a lot of good in talking as he is usually constantly on the side of the pro-lifers. It is hosts such as Al Franken that you have to watch out for, not Sean Hannity.
Bunk. The reality is that Sean Hannity (or support staff) is intelligent enough to screen out qualified correspondence. Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?Lets me realistic, all tv figures, such as Sean Hannity, do not have the capacity to read all emails or respond to them. To say, just for the fact an email was sent, does not mean Sean had the physical means to read it, so to blame him is unfounded in reality.
You would have faithful Catholics believe that scandalous behavior from a very public and aggressive self-proclaimed Catholic voice is no longer something watch out for?Sean does a lot of good in talking as he is usually constantly on the side of the pro-lifers. It is hosts such as Al Franken that you have to watch out for, not Sean Hannity.
Agreed!originally posted by setter
Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?
Bunk. T Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?
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Agreed. Sean does not get a ‘pass’ on being a faithful Catholic just because he’s really busy and important and visible. Indeed, his responsibility for his actions is all the greater.
- Sean was aware of the attempted contacts and his producers with Sean’s approval * scheduled Fr E for ‘Hannity and Combs’ on Fox News.
- Usually, it’s the sheep dressed in wolve’s clothing [Hannity], that you need to watch out for, as you already are keeping an eye on the wolves [Franken].*
Your not sure. You don’t know. Please do not say things which you are unaware of just as I am unaware of the situation when Fr. E of contacting Sean Hannity. To say Mr. Hannity is aware of all emails is not realistic. I can’t say he wasn’t nor can I say he was. You can not be so quick to be “sure”.
The wolf here is the wide majority of American Catholics and they are not to be treated as wolves but treated as brothers and sisters that need to be compassionately helped to better understand why the Church teaches many of the rules on ABC and other highly controversial teachings. Not pushed away or regarded as such a bad catholic. (Did you mean, a wolf in sheep clothing?) Bring your friends to a Theology of the Body talk, reach out to them don’t sit there telling them they are a heretic and need to repent, there is no good end there. Since Vatican II, the Church realized the change needed to evangelize people, the ways that worked in the past, may not be the best choice in todays world.
This is not nonsense. It is not excuses but the fact of pure humanity, your not going through every single email or letter, not “screening out qualified correspondence”… Again, I do not agree with Sean Hannity, I stand with the Church. But Father E acted in a way that was in my opinion, showed “shockingly poor judgment.”Bunk. The reality is that Sean Hannity (or support staff) is intelligent enough to screen out qualified correspondence. Can we offer anymore excuses for this dissident Catholic voice of the mass media?
Yes But John Kerry does, the speaker of the house does, Ted Kennedy does. Catholics that watch Mr. Hannity know that in many of previous shows, he is opposed to ABC, such as the case I remember when the law forced Catholic medical providers to provide ABC, Mr. Hannity supported the side of Catholic moral teaching and explained that ABC is not to be used.Agreed!
Neither Al Gore nor Al Franken claim to be Catholic so what they say and what is said to and about them is an entirely other ball game.
And now we get to the point. On this subject of ABC and professing to be catholic Mr. Hannity belongs squarely side by side with the above mentioned politicians.Yes But John Kerry does, the speaker of the house does, Ted Kennedy does…
I strongly disagree. They are openly pro-choice in all matters, openly support ABC and openly deny any role of religion in their politics.And now we get to the point. On this subject of ABC and professing to be catholic Mr. Hannity belongs squarely side by side with the above mentioned politicians.
John Kerry claimed to be catholic but evidently doesn’t know his faith based on his voting record.I strongly disagree. They are openly pro-choice in all matters, openly support ABC and openly deny any role of religion in their politics.
Sean claims no such extremes. Sean is the “lesser of the evils” to use a poor statement.
He may know what the Church teaches, but may neglect why. We can only guess to what his knowledge is to what extent. Instead of punishing him, let us try in a better way to bring him back full to the fold.John Kerry claimed to be catholic but evidently doesn’t know his faith based on his voting record.
Sean Hannity claims to be catholic but evidently doesn’t know his faith based on is remarks.
Don’t you mean a “nicer”, less confrontational way, albeit not necessarily more effective way?He may know what the Church teaches, but may neglect why. We can only guess to what his knowledge is to what extent. Instead of punishing him, let us try in a better way to bring him back full to the fold.
No, I am mean better and more effective.(We disagree what method is more effective.)Don’t you mean a “nicer”, less confrontational way, albeit not necessarily more effective way?
Exactly. Sean Hannity is the sort of person who needs swift firm correction when he’s in error, just as he himself would administer. He is extremely strong willed. This is why Father Euteneuer’s approach was more appropriate for Sean Hannity than would be Father Morris’ approach.No, I am mean better and more effective.(We disagree what method is more effective.)
A way that does not shut people off. Different people, different circumstances call for different pastoral decisions.