Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

[Convert_in_99]

All this vicious evil attack on Trump will result in one thing: the sure destruction of hillary during the 3rd debate. You watch. One thing you don’t do is provoke a lion. Now not only he has to fight for the country, he also has to fight for his own very survival. Just like he did in the last debate, his cold anger will hit hillary like a tsunami that she doesn’t see coming. Bring it on, Hillary!

:ehh:

Really these debates do nothing but prove beyond a shadow of doubt how horribly unfit BOTH these candidates are for the running of this country.

 

[ringil]

They’ll all be coming out of the woodwork now, just as in the cases of Bill Cosby and…Bill Clinton. Some testimonies may be true, many most likely not.

Never saw any of this with Bernie?

You know we can all say- “oh of course the Clinton’s are going to be pushing these stories but we have to wonder why aren’t new stories around H. Clinton showing up daily as they are with Trump.”

Just continuously saying “It’s the DNC- It’s the media!” doesn’t really address these stories.

 

[ringil]

Anyone who knows anything about the Clintons.

But this will get much worse. The Clinton machine has hundreds of millions of dollars and entire news organizations working for them for nothing.

Poor Trump he’s just a victim. :roll eyes:

This election is going to be one of the biggest blowouts in presidential history.

 

[ringil]

All this vicious evil attack on Trump will result in one thing: the sure destruction of hillary during the 3rd debate. You watch. One thing you don’t do is provoke a lion. Now not only he has to fight for the country, he also has to fight for his own very survival. Just like he did in the last debate, his cold anger will hit hillary like a tsunami that she doesn’t see coming. Bring it on, Hillary!

Glas is half full right?

 

[queenofheartscv]

:ehh:

Really these debates do nothing but prove beyond a shadow of doubt how horribly unfit BOTH these candidates are for the running of this country.

Until you are courageous enough to run yourself and survive, this kind of talk does nothing.

 

[goout]

Come on. Trump has been in the limelight for years and years. If anyone needed anything on his background, all they needed to do was look. Mark Shea a number of months ago had link to the many different troublesome trump things, including the sexual harassment case of Jill Harth.

People collectively decided to believe that Trump would be a good choice for president, for whatever reason.

That’s kinda the point I made.
sheesh

 

[styrgwillidar]

Does Trump get to use the same line that was used to defend Clinton?

Something about ‘dragging a $5 bill through a trailer park’?

 

[queenofheartscv]

I wonder why Trump is only accused of groping not raping? I mean, if Hillary’s opponent has to be smeared to be as bad as her, the story line should be accusation of rape, not just groping. I mean, why stop at groping, right?

The story should be Trump raped many women while his wife Melania/or daughter Ivanka goes out threatening these same women. Now that would have been a competitive story.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

Not everyone watching will be impressed with such cold anger, Trump acting like a tsunami or unleashing the fury of a lion. I realize his base will love it.

Yeah, Hillary WANTS him to lose it. She knows it will win her the election. Trump’s fans will love it and the moderates will be repulsed.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

Given how wealthy Trump is, the women would have sued a long time ago if it were true. But no, they wanted to wait until after the tape came out. How timely. Remember the question at the debate: Mr. Trump, are you sure you’ve never done what you joked about doing? What a nice set-up! It’s war out there.

Actually more like the opposite. A very rich person can sweep all such things under the carpet. The law favours the rich, not the innocent. Same goes for HC. I’d vote for Trump sooner than HC, but I would probably throw up afterwards and feel dirty. Luckily I don’t have a vote.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

It may but likely will not.

IMO, this is often used as justification to do as we desire, without giving serious consideration to the following part:

35.There may be times when a Catholic who rejects a candidate’s unacceptable position even on policies promoting an intrinsically evil act may reasonably decide to vote for that candidate for other morally grave reasons. Voting in this way would be permissible only for truly grave moral reasons, not to advance narrow interests or partisan preferences or to ignore a fundamental moral evil:

Note the emphasis on the word “may.” This implies possible, but not common. The Church defines grave for us. What the good Father did was clarify what the Catechism says, not suggest how loosely this can be applied, or whether or not it applies in this case (or ever has in history).

The Church is not going to say “vote for X.” As with most moral matters, She has given us AMPLE (name removed by moderator)ut on how to properly form and discern the right decisions. We still have free will, and there will always be Catholics who discern, just as there will always be Catholics who use the excerpt as a license to vote for who they really wanted anyway. There is no way to avoid the abuse of this wonderful guidance, but that is on the voter, not the Catechism. Ultimately God knows what is in their heart, and whether or not they were sincere, or simply hiding behind words on paper (the very issue with being too doctrinal and legalistic the Proper just spoke of - “see, technically, if you read the words, I am correct!”). God’s intent is more than words on a page.

I see where you are coming from, but in my head this would be more relevant if, say, one candidate was pro-euthanasia and one was pro-abortion. You could discern which would be less likely to do damage… say if the abortion laws were well established but there was no euthanasia in your country and you wanted things to stay as they are rather than get worse… some kind of equally-evil-outcome situations.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

Which is worse? A man who is stupid, offensive, a womanizer?
Or
Someone who has evidence of it and waits until the damage to the country is irreversible to release it?

Well, leaving aside all the other bad things about HC and just focusing on these 2 statements, it’s obviously far worse to be a womanizer than to strategically leak damaging but true information. How could you possibly think abuse is less bad??

Plus, Trump would do it too. It’s politics.

 

[ShrodingersCat]

I wonder why Trump is only accused of groping not raping? I mean, if Hillary’s opponent has to be smeared to be as bad as her, the story line should be accusation of rape, not just groping. I mean, why stop at groping, right?

The story should be Trump raped many women while his wife Melania/or daughter Ivanka goes out threatening these same women. Now that would have been a competitive story.

Uh, who did HC rape? Your point makes no sense, BC isn’t up for election.

Both candidates are awful and it sucks that Trump is the pro-life one since that is such an important issue, but I don’t get why people defend him and try to deflect from these stories and blame the Clinton empire and their media minions. I mean, based on the evidence we have all heard, these new stories seem plausible.

 

[NormW]

I wonder why Trump is only accused of groping not raping? I mean, if Hillary’s opponent has to be smeared to be as bad as her, the story line should be accusation of rape, not just groping. I mean, why stop at groping, right?

The story should be Trump raped many women while his wife Melania/or daughter Ivanka goes out threatening these same women. Now that would have been a competitive story.

Um, he is accused of rape.

 

[Michael68]

These women come out now? Really? I smell something that rhymes with cool whip!!!

 

[Convert_in_99]

These women come out now? Really? I smell something that rhymes with cool whip!!!

Post-Nasal drip?

 

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

I see where you are coming from, but in my head this would be more relevant if, say, one candidate was pro-euthanasia and one was pro-abortion. You could discern which would be less likely to do damage… say if the abortion laws were well established but there was no euthanasia in your country and you wanted things to stay as they are rather than get worse… some kind of equally-evil-outcome situations.

I agree, this is more plausible to invoke what the Bishop’s are saying.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Uh, who did HC rape? Your point makes no sense, BC isn’t up for election.

Both candidates are awful and it sucks that Trump is the pro-life one since that is such an important issue, but I don’t get why people defend him and try to deflect from these stories and blame the Clinton empire and their media minions. I mean, based on the evidence we have all heard, these new stories seem plausible.

A story in a newspaper, necessarily hearsay, is not evidence. And it’s particularly not “good” evidence when the newspaper is overtly partisan and is using it as part of a campaign strategy to “deflect” from issues that really do affect the populace, like making Catholics “change our religion”.

 

[goout]

These women come out now? Really? I smell something that rhymes with cool whip!!!

It;s only right they come out with this now, Cause the most important thing is to win, and if they came out last year, then Trump would never have been a candidate.

But, in spite of all this, the American public is just really dumb to even get him this far.

 

[karow]

The reason these stories became “public decades later” is because the women he assaulted saw him lie during a presidential debate and refused to let him get away with it.

Leeds’ and Crooks’ stories are very much like those of Jill Harth and Temple Taggart, which were already public.

Trump has gotten away with this behavior for a very long time. There are certainly lots of women he has abused over many decades. And every member of the Republican Party who has supported this guy, and continues to support him, is abetting his continued abuse. The last thing he needs is more power.