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The flagship of the NAVY of Ukraine “Hetman Sahaidachny” defected to the Russian

“And it’s likely that most of the Ukraine Armed Forces are loyal to President Yanukovich, not to the unelected gang in Kiev.”

“They don’t have air force as well. How could a dozen Russians arrive to a major airbase in Crimea and capture it without a shot fired? It seems like Ukrainian military has picked sides and don’t want Galician Nazis to run the show.”
 
“The role of the church is consistent. During the last three months, the church, especially the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, was with its people. And it will continue to remain with its people. If, God forbid, we will have to stand together on the battlefield with our soldiers, with our army, the Ukrainian Church, especially the UGCC, is ready to provide pastoral support.”

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kcci.com/national/Ukraine-mobilizes-troops-in-Russia-crisis/24761968

“Ukraine’s parliament met behind closed doors Sunday. At the closing of the session, acting Defense Minister Ihor Tenyuh said Ukraine does not have the military force to resist Russia, according to two parliamentary members present at the meeting.”

“North Atlantic Council will meet tomorrow followed by NATO-Ukraine Commission,” Rasmussen wrote.

“Ukraine has faced a deepening schism, with those in the west generally supporting the interim government and its European Union tilt, while many in the east preferring a Ukraine where Russia casts a long shadow”
 
news.yahoo.com/ukraine-asks-un-council-stop-russian-aggression-002201143.html

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call to “urgently engage in direct dialogue with the authorities” in Kiev.

Calling the situation in Ukraine “as dangerous as it is destabilizing,” U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power told the council, “It is time for the Russian military intervention in Ukraine to end.”
 
GaryTaylor said:
kcci.com/national/Ukraine-mobilizes-troops-in-Russia-crisis/24761968

“Ukraine’s parliament met behind closed doors Sunday. At the closing of the session, acting Defense Minister Ihor Tenyuh said Ukraine does not have the military force to resist Russia, according to two parliamentary members present at the meeting.”

“North Atlantic Council will meet tomorrow followed by NATO-Ukraine Commission,” Rasmussen wrote.

“Ukraine has faced a deepening schism, with those in the west generally supporting the interim government and its European Union tilt, while many in the east preferring a Ukraine where Russia casts a long shadow”
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"At the closing of the session, acting Defense Minister Ihor Tenyuh said Ukraine does not have the military force to resist Russia, according to two parliamentary members present at the meeting.

Tenyuh called for talks to resolve the crisis with Russia, they said."

Thank you God. Funny how it always seems that a lot of the time it is the military itself which has the cooler prevailing head. Hopefully the Ukraine military can now have talks with Russia and they can restore the legitimate government in exile
 
Ukraine does not have the military force to resist Russia yet they are assembled right now, Russia ordered them to surrender. CNN is reporting which is about as believable as Bugs Bunny.
 
Let us get real here. Do a quick google research on the Russian military presence in the Crimea, by agreement for years. The Crimea has been a vassal state of Russia’s for generations. A third of its population speak Russian.
Your President can thump the table and no one is listening as he is a second term wash up who cannot order military intervention; economic embargoes, or UN intervention with Russia’s veto.
Obama is impotent, and the world despises the weak.
Russia now controls the Crimea and the rest of the Ukraine is not far behind.
Yet one more nation in internal decay to add to the list of Egypt, Syria Iraq and all other States subject to the Arab Dawn.This list is not complete without Afghanistan and Somalia, and for other reasons, Greece and some of the other PIGS.
Which country do you want to bomb first. Oh sorry, that was Iraq. Second then… sorry again, that was Afghanistan…My best bet for third will be Syria but the Israeli may beat you with Iran.
Give the world a break, concentrate on rebuilding your cities and essential infrastructure and keep out of every regional conflict in the world. It is getting quite tiresome.
 
Those Russians are so evil that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are wanting to get Russian citizenship and whole sectors of the Ukrainian military are defecting!

en.ria.ru/military_news/20140302/188021252/Ukrainian-Troops-in-Crimea-Side-with-Pro-Russia-Forces.html

en.ria.ru/russia/20140302/188021953/Some-675000-Ukrainians-Fled-to-Russia-Amid-Crisis–Report.html

Come here you racist russo-phobes, armchair generals, Obama-is-a-coward-and-I-can-do-better critics, and chickenhawks, let me lick and savor the taste of your tears as you seethe and throw tantrums!
 
Agreed.
Proving how much western media is in the government’s pocket.
 
JordanJD said:
Those Russians are so evil that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are wanting to get Russian citizenship and whole sectors of the Ukrainian military are defecting!

en.ria.ru/military_news/20140302/188021252/Ukrainian-Troops-in-Crimea-Side-with-Pro-Russia-Forces.html

en.ria.ru/russia/20140302/188021953/Some-675000-Ukrainians-Fled-to-Russia-Amid-Crisis–Report.html

Come here you racist russo-phobes, armchair generals, Obama-is-a-coward-and-I-can-do-better critics, and chickenhawks, let me lick and savor the taste of your tears as you seethe and throw tantrums!
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OOOOoookay.
Reported.
 
JordanJD said:
Reported for what? Destroying your world view? Pointing out that the emperor has no clothes?
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You’re not allowed to come on this forum and insult people dude, no matter what your POV is. A simple reading the forum rules should have told you that.
 
Son_of_Niall said:
You’re not allowed to come on this forum and insult people dude, no matter what your POV is. A simple reading the forum rules should have told you that.
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And which person did I specifically insult? Please give me a name
 
“This week we begin Lent, which is the journey of the People of God towards Easter, a journey of conversion, to combat evil with the weapons of prayer, fasting and mercy”. “The shroud has no pockets! It is better to share, because we bring into Heaven only what we have shared with others”.

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It might come as a shock to the 21st century crowd, but what we have in this case is old fashioned 19th/20th century nationalism at work. Other than protest there is not much that can be done that will be practical or effective. Will Obama stand up and show Putin how flexible he can be in his second term, or will he bow? Of course foreign policy hasn’t been this administration’s strong suit, and I am not sure if they even care that much to do more than the minimum until they are forced to act more forcefully. And then they waver. Look at Libya, Syria, North Korea…
 
I feel that Ukraine should form ethnic and religious States in the form of a Confederation. All seperate, yet unified as it’s own Nation, where highway and other utility maintenance are a shared responsibility among all the unified States of Ukraine.
 
Explain to me please about these fascists. Are they really Nazi’s as I’ve read on one strange website? I’d really love a good link on this.
 
TEPO said:
I feel that Ukraine should form ethnic and religious States in the form of a Confederacy. All seperate, yet unified as it’s own Nation, where highway and other utility maintenance are a shared responsibility among all the unified States of Ukraine.
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Perhaps so, but that will require that the different parts of the confederation actually want to be apart of the same nation, and will do so on an equal basis.
 
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