Yes it is much better that children not learn proper math and science so that they can be “taught” at home then for the parents to actually take the time to teach them the values of the family outside of the school day so that the children are prepared to defend their faith when they go out into the world. Because what we need more of in the future are poorly educated sheltered adults that can’t defend their beliefs in light of attacks and debate. :doh2:
You keeep saying this.
Would you say that public schooling is a basic human right?the asylum law in the US and the UN convention on refugees were enacted/ratified after 1933, the case of Jews fleeing nazi persecution is a paradigm example of people eligible for asylum in the US under current law.
sure… definitely a basic human right.You keeep saying this.
I’ve met many who aren’t well adjusted and are kinda stupid, and these are typically from Christian families who teach creationism and fear of the outside world.
if illegals were removed, we wouldn’t have illegals. that’s not exactly profound.
the kids could attend school. the family could move out of Germany. they could apply for an exemption. if they would necessarily have lost their kids because they were Christian and not criminals, the court of appeals would have ruled differently.
Why is public schooling a basic human right but homeschooling is not?
Education is a basic human right.You keeep saying this.
Have you ever heard of George Washingiton Carver? He was eleven before he ever received a formal education. You might be amazied at how much science he learned by exploring the prairie he lived on. You also may be amazed how much math and science children can learn at home today. We have many resources available to us, and I care as much or more about my children’s education than any teacher would. I also know exactly what they know and don’t know. A teacher with 20-30 children in a room isn’t going to know each child’s exact strengths and weaknesses. I also know many 15-17 year olds that are homeschooled and taking classes at a community college.
Well there is not a lot of prairie left to explore. Most of what he figured out is now taught in schools. Therefore, kids can learn the basics and not have to reinvent the wheel to get back to the understanding level that their contemporaries have. If they have to play catch up, the world will leave them behind.
in the US education at public expense is a basic right, private schools and home schooling are also allowed. I’ve said that homeschoolers have a right to doofussly educamate their younglins in creation science, teach anti-government hysteria or whatever floats their boat so long as whatever minimums the state requires are met. presumably, teaching literacy and arithmetic are within the skill set of most home schoolers…
If something is a basic human right, by definition, that applies to all people irrespective of time and place.
But I have a big problem with States interfering with a parent’s role as primary educator. Do you not see the room for abuse here? To put a secular government in the driver’s seat for the education of all it’s citizens? I think that’s how every dystopian novel begins. I have been broadly exposed to homeschooling and home schooled children. My experience has been that the overwhelming majority of them are better educated than kids from our public school system (in which I happen to work).
but this family is likely NOT teaching their children nazism!
But the law is not targeted at this family. The law is general as all laws are. They cannot be made for each individual family.but this family is likely NOT teaching their children nazism!
But here is the problem, you have been fortunate enough to run into people who do a good job at homeschooling. I believe that it can be done well and many can do it well. I also believe that it can be done badly and many do it badly. If we make it a right, then there is very little that can be done about the people that do it badly. I do not think it should be banned, as much as I do not think it is a good idea, but I do not think that it should be raised to the level of a right either. I believe that it should be a privilege for those that are willing and able to do a good job of educating their children. If the children are tested and score the same or better than peers, then great, if not, time for homeschooling to end for them.
But why are we applying different criteria to home-schooled children as public school children? Many public schools also educate poorly. Does this mean, if a public school child tests poorly, it is time for public schooling to end for them? Time to send them home.
that’s not how conventions, treaties, constitutions work. countries signing treaties often opt out of parts of them, US-style constitutions also limit personal rights depending on a host of factors and grant some people more or a greater degree of rights than others. you can’t adopt simplistic interpretations of things that are otherwise well defined. you can argue natural right and related theory, but that’s not how things are.
government standards ought to impose a minimum level of competency on the part of the teacher and student we should agree there.I’ve no problem with standards. My home-schooled kindergartener can run educational circles around her public-schooled peers.