V for Vendetta (2006)

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When the Lord shows up for my job and puts in 40 hrs and deals with my miserable company then he can call it ALL “his” money.

Until then, he can feel free to take my tithe and and other charitble donations and do with as he pleases.
 
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Troy7:
When the Lord shows up for my job and puts in 40 hrs and deals with my miserable company then he can call it ALL “his” money.

Until then, he can feel free to take my tithe and and other charitble donations and do with as he pleases.
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Just curious. I take it you are not a Christian. If so, I’m sorry for not recognizing it in your post. Tell me this, what about us doesn’t the Lord of heaven already own?

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I went and saw it. I HATED it. It wasn’t just the fact that it was talking about America like it was a sewage dump, or that they’re glorifying homosexuality or any of that garbage. It was that it was just a stupid movie. The plot was ridiculous, convaluted, and the mask that V wears the whole time is SO annoying. And there wasn’t that much good action in it. And I hated the way V spoke in it. All of the characters were morons. And I didn’t like any of them. It was just a horrible movie in every way.
 
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Oren:
I went and saw it. I HATED it. It wasn’t just the fact that it was talking about America like it was a sewage dump, or that they’re glorifying homosexuality or any of that garbage. It was that it was just a stupid movie. The plot was ridiculous, convaluted, and the mask that V wears the whole time is SO annoying. And there wasn’t that much good action in it. And I hated the way V spoke in it. All of the characters were morons. And I didn’t like any of them. It was just a horrible movie in every way.
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At least you have proper reasons! 👍 😛 😃
 
Saw it yesterday. Pretty good movie: I’d give it a 9 out of 10. It’s a bit ‘campy’, but in an understated, yet obviously, British, sort of way. (If you don’t like to see religious, political, scientific, and cultural leaders severely criticized, then definitely don’t see it.)
 
I saw it yesterday as well.

I thought it was a very good movie, although I was a bit perturbed by the way the lesbians were glorified.

Other than that, I thought it was a very good movie, and I don’t think I’ll be going to hell for watching it.

One doesn’t go to hell or become condemned by watching a movie or reading a book (other than pornographic media). Just as I won’t go to hell for reading Harry Potter, I won’t go to hell for watching V for Vendetta.

I thought the overall message of the movie was good.

People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people.
 
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Ahimsa:
Saw it yesterday. Pretty good movie: I’d give it a 9 out of 10. It’s a bit ‘campy’, but in an understated, yet obviously, British, sort of way. (If you don’t like to see religious, political, scientific, and cultural leaders severely criticized, then definitely don’t see it.)
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Oh it doesn’t promote the emasculated British male image does it… 😃
  • If you are referring to Stephen Fry, there are reasons for that 😉 😛
 
MasterJedi, why don’t you say what you said to Don Feder and we’ll see what happens.

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Interesting debates brewing here. I’m still on the fence regarding wether I’ll check it out. Here was the review from the USCCB website (usccb.org/movies/v/vforvendetta.shtml):
V for Vendetta – Provocative futuristic thriller based in London about a masked antihero (Hugo Weaving) who enlists the aid of a young office worker (Natalie Portman) to undermine a totalitarian government headed by an Orwellian dictator (John Hurt) and his cowering advisers (Stephen Rea, Rupert Graves, Tim Pigott-Smith). Director James McTeigue, working from a Wachowski Brothers adaptation of Alan Moore (uncredited by choice) and illustrator David Lloyd’s graphic novel, has crafted a reasonably intelligent political allegory, with emphasis on character development, ideas and even a bit of romance, rather than simple mindless violence, the performances are first rate, and the film’s theme of the individual’s responsibility in standing up to tyranny – while questioning the moral limits of opposition – is worthy, and stops short of imparting a universal anti-authoritarian message. Some discreetly handled violence with bloodshed, a hanging, scattered profanity, rough and crude language and expressions, minor lesbian-themed flashback and implied gay male character, corrupt Anglican clergyman, attempted rape, sexual innuendo, drug use. L – limited adult audience, films whose problematic content many adults would find troubling. (R)
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Note – original text was bolded, I didn’t bold it 🙂
 
Loved the movie–except for the bloody slashing scene towards the end–spurting blood just doesn’t do it for me. I like movies that make you think–and personally I think that this movie did make me think.

I would hope that there are a lot of scenes in the movie that would make Americans and extremist Christians think…
 
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bones_IV:
MasterJedi, why don’t you say what you said to Don Feder and we’ll see what happens.

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What will happen, Feder will use harsh language or something?
 
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bones_IV:
MasterJedi, why don’t you say what you said to Don Feder and we’ll see what happens.
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No, thank you. I’d much rather not waste my time arguing with him. It’s just not worth it. And he is entitled to his own opinion, even if I strongly disagree with him on almost every count.
USCCB:
V for Vendetta – Provocative futuristic thriller based in London about a masked antihero (Hugo Weaving) who enlists the aid of a young office worker (Natalie Portman) to undermine a totalitarian government headed by an Orwellian dictator (John Hurt) and his cowering advisers (Stephen Rea, Rupert Graves, Tim Pigott-Smith). Director James McTeigue, working from a Wachowski Brothers adaptation of Alan Moore (uncredited by choice) and illustrator David Lloyd’s graphic novel, has crafted a reasonably intelligent political allegory, with emphasis on character development, ideas and even a bit of romance, rather than simple mindless violence, the performances are first rate, and the film’s theme of the individual’s responsibility in standing up to tyranny – while questioning the moral limits of opposition – is worthy, and stops short of imparting a universal anti-authoritarian message. Some discreetly handled violence with bloodshed, a hanging, scattered profanity, rough and crude language and expressions, minor lesbian-themed flashback and implied gay male character, corrupt Anglican clergyman, attempted rape, sexual innuendo, drug use. L – limited adult audience, films whose problematic content many adults would find troubling. (R)
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I agree with their opinions entirely!! 🙂 And the corrupt bishop was an Anglican! http://bestsmileys.com/textinbubble1/19.gif
 
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masterjedi747:
I don’t claim to be an expert, but from what I remember learning, the “Fascism = Extreme Conservative” explanation really isn’t that far off.
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Not exactly. The conservatives of today are the old liberals of yesterday.

The extreme of conservatism (the old liberals) is libertarianism.

Fascism is anti-old liberalism (anti-modern day conservative [republicanism/capitalism/individualism/etc]), and fascism is anti-Communist. Fascism is a reform of SOCIALISM. Fascism takes some of the ideas of socialism and reforms them with spirit of nationalism. Communism takes socialism and surrounds it with globalism. That is why many people view fascism and communism share opposite sides of the same radical coin.

The socialists are the new liberals, opposed to old liberalism.
 
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masterjedi747:
No, thank you. I’d much rather not waste my time arguing with him. It’s just not worth it. And he is entitled to his own opinion, even if I strongly disagree with him on almost every count.

I agree with their opinions entirely!! 🙂 And the corrupt bishop was an Anglican! http://bestsmileys.com/textinbubble1/19.gif
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Intelligent political allegory? How? I don’t see how this movie can be an intelligent political allegory anyway. Why don’t the makers of the movie V is for Vandetta make the Pope the dictator’s aid while their at it. I betcha that the makers would have villianized the pope in this one if they really wanted to. Masterjedi you can think whatever you want. If jewish people like Mr. Feder think the movie is offensive then I do. I’d rather side with decentfilms, catholicexchange, and Feder any day of the week. Standing up to tyranny? Looked more like the morally defunct Zorro attempting mission impossible. Medved’s description of this really stupid movie is even better.

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MulusChristi:
Greetings Masterjedi,
I appreciate your review. However, I get tired of the Fascist = extreme conservative model. It is not historically accurate. It is rather the pap which liberals always throw at conservatives to hide the connections between modern liberalism and socialiasm, communism and fascism.

Fascism was born in Italy under Mussolini and he started out as a communist, NOT some kind of Italian conservative/nationalist. Hitler also was never a German or Austrian nationalist or conservative. He hated the capitalist system as much as communism. In fact, at the end of the war, he chose to fight the capitalist west harder than the communist east. So fascism is a twisted sibling to communism and socialism.

The movie V for V is very dishonest in this mismarriage of traditional values and fascism. In fact, it is part of the persecution of Christian values which we are seeing in the west. That is my main objection to what I have seen of the hype and reviews. It is part of the cultural attack on our values. It gives justification to the bigoted secular persecution of Christians and it is delusional.

On a minor point, I also was annoyed by the double cross used in the government logo. This was the symbol of the French resistance against the fascist Vichy government. More twisting of history.
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I just wanted to say thanks for pointing out that fascism does not magically form out of adherence to conservative Christian values. There is a lot of propaganda going on these days that attempts to make that sort of claim, and I think one of the dangers is this lie will continue to spread and lead to Christianity being synonymous with tyranny - that only by marginalizing and working to erode the Christian heritage of our society will ‘the mainstream’ people be safe from the illusionary threat it poses.

I believe there is a movement out there that intends to do exactly that and I think its straight from the devil.

I haven’t watched V for Vendetta yet, so I wont comment on whether or not it actually promotes such garbage. I’d like to see it, but I’ll keep in mind that it may have a certain message that’s not to be trusted.
 
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Thursday1:
I have not seen the movie yet, but there is no way it could have measured up to the graphic novel in the first place. The graphic novel is brilliant, and really does raise the question of terrorist or freedom fighter. This just looks awful.
Does anyone find their choice of actor for a “Big Brother” character ironic? How many people who auditioned had also played “Winston Smith?”
Oh well, maybe Scanner Darkly will be better.

Yours in Christ,
Thursday
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!!!

A comic fan!

Let’s be friends. 👍
 
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bones_IV:
Seems like the PC bug has bitten you.
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Don’t you ever have anything more than one line retorts and empty insults to sling?
 
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Thursday1:
I have not seen the movie yet, but there is no way it could have measured up to the graphic novel in the first place. The graphic novel is brilliant, and really does raise the question of terrorist or freedom fighter. This just looks awful.
Does anyone find their choice of actor for a “Big Brother” character ironic? How many people who auditioned had also played “Winston Smith?”
Oh well, maybe Scanner Darkly will be better.

Yours in Christ,
Thursday
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You realize that the orginal writer wanted nothing to do with this movie.
 
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AmyS:
You realize that the orginal writer wanted nothing to do with this movie.
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Well, to be fair, Alan Moore is an elitist who wants nothing to do with anything, more or less. A visionary, sure. A stuck-up elitist, definitely.
 
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