Voting for Jesus

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It’s not my job to teach you.
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It is your job to support your claims. Otherwise they are meaningless and when they are so exaggerated become discarded as untruths.
 
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hope said:
It is your job to support your claims.
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And you won’t understand or appreciate it till you do it yourself. If you want to have a debate then have one but if you can’t enter a discussion without the willingness to shift position then don’t bother.

Even politician and lawyers take notes of the other side to improve.
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Otherwise they are meaningless and when they are so exaggerated become discarded as untruths.
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No that’s your mental state.
 
Anrakyr said:
And you won’t understand or appreciate it till you do it yourself. If you want to have a debate then have one but if you can’t enter a discussion without the willingness to shift position then don’t bother.

Even politician and lawyers take notes of the other side to improve.
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This is just an evasion. A very poor answer. It is always the person making the claims duty to provide evidence of such a claim. I note that you have not provided any piece of proof of any of your claims. I understand why, they are indeed untruths. You mentioned a name yet you cannot even provide who he is.
 
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This is just an evasion.
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No this is just me not wanting to deal with two party propaganda and relink stuff I’ve linked I don’t know how many times…
I can’t help it if you gave into propaganda and don’t want to change your mind. If you go through everything I link and try to debunk it and take it apart and look for flaws instead of trying to see the truth first then it’s just leading a horse to water.

Your party system is fundamentally broken you have one side hosting nuns and priests just to get the Catholic vote when they have no intention of helping you out. on the other side we have Democrats doing the exact same things with people on the other end of the spectrum sitting there saying we’ll promise we’re going to fulfill everything.

Both are lying.

What we should be doing is picking the best and most honest candidate with the most integrity for the job regardless of affiliation who we know will be moral.
We can’t get a perfect candidate every time but we can try to demand one. by doing so we will get candidates of greater quality and hopefully we can make the world a better place.

Right now Trump is doing more damage being a populist voter instead of adhering even to his own party then anyone else right now.

He won’t appoint diplomats. His chief military adviser pointed out means he has to buy bullets . Which means America can end up going into another war killing more people for no reason because Trump won’t hire one guy cuz he thinks he’s being tough.

That one point which is very easy to confirm with a simple Google search should terrify you.

But the fact that you’re arguing with me over every little point whether I put it across properly or not means, yeah go look it up yourself.

I can’t wet your appetite for truth. If I could I would but you have to want it.
 
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It was the Court which gave us gay marriage, and once the Supreme Court has spoken, the Republicans, realizing they are not going to overturn a court case, have moved on, They have little choice but to comply with the law.
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This is the same reason that both parties, despite lip service from one side, have accepted R V W as the established law.
 
Have you investigated how many lives are lost to various laboratory creation for things like IVF, surrogacy, research each year in the US? Where is the outrage?
 
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No this is just me not wanting to deal with two party propaganda and relink stuff I’ve linked I don’t know how many times…
I can’t help it if you gave into propaganda
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I don’t belong to any party and you have never linked it even once. From what you wrote propaganda is all you know.
But the fact that you’re arguing with me over every little point whether I put it across properly or not means, yeah go look it up yourself.
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This is not a fact as I haven’t argues over any point other than to ask you for proof which for whatever reason you do not wish to give.
 
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The numbers created for research is a number I’ve been unable to find.

Here are CDC numbers on ART

https://www.cdc.gov/art/artdata/index.html

Based on CDC’s 2017 Fertility Clinic Success Rates Report, there were 284,385* ART cycles performed at 448 reporting clinics in the United States during 2017, resulting in 68,908 live births (deliveries of one or more living infants) and 78,052 live born infants. Of the 284,385 ART cycles performed in 2017, 87,535 were egg or embryo banking cycles in which the intent of the ART cycle was to freeze all resulting eggs or embryos for future ART cycles and for which we would not expect a resulting pregnancy or birth.
 
Sounds dangerously close to utilitarianism. The taking of one single life is no better or worse than taking a million lives.
 
That’s a horrible comparison. Trying to compare abortion to immigration or wrongful police deaths is pretty obscure. I would recommend looking at the churches positions on immigration and abortion.
 
There are so many battles at stake here, not only abortion (although I believe it to be the most crucial battle.
 
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