Walmart walkout: workers mount black Friday job action

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Words don’t mean much, when they aren’t consistent. It’s talking just to talk. Your concern for football players and concessions ring completely hollow when contrasted to the vitriol you spew for retail establishments.

You have a nice day, too. 🙂
Have a nice Thanksgiving shopping! Hope you get everything you want.
 
They agreed to their pay and schedules when they agreed to work for wal-mart. More people on unemployment, yay.

I will be working on Thanksgiving and I own my own business. Just the way it is. I only close for Christmas and Easter.
 
Have a nice Thanksgiving shopping! Hope you get everything you want.
:rolleyes:

I don’t shop on Thanksgiving or “Black Friday.” I am working on the latter but wouldn’t shop, even if I was off. I have worked on the former. I finally have Sundays off. It became important enough to me that I insisted. I work in a non-essential industry and exercised my ability to determine whether I will continue to work for an employer who requires me to work Sunday.
 
Didn’t they choose their job too?

If they didn’t want to work on Thanksgiving perhaps they shouldn’t have joined the military, right? They should have “exercised their ability to determine whether they will continue to work for employer that requires them to work on Sunday”

Same with Doctors. Nurses, Police, Firefighters…they should have chosen better jobs, right?

But it’s only Walmart workers that you view with disdain, they don’t deserve better, do they?
 
They agreed to their pay and schedules when they agreed to work for wal-mart. More people on unemployment, yay.

I will be working on Thanksgiving and I own my own business. Just the way it is. I only close for Christmas and Easter.
I hope you too can walk out on your cold, heartless employer, whose only concern is obscene profits!

No…wait…
 
Didn’t they choose their job too?
Yep.
"Seeker1961:
If they didn’t want to work on Thanksgiving perhaps they shouldn’t have joined the military, right?
Sure. In fact, if they didn’t realize they would be working weekends and holidays, they are not bright, and the military shouldn’t have accepted them.
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Seeker1961:
They should have “exercised their ability to determine whether they will continue to work for employer that requires them to work on Sunday”
Not “continue.” It’s a little more difficult to just quit the military, and it isn’t a “non-essential” job. After their stint is up, they can certainly change careers.
Same with Doctors. Nurses, Police, Firefighters…they should have chosen better jobs, right?
Again, not non-essential jobs, and, yes, if having holidays and weekends off was a greater priority to them, they should have chosen a different profession.
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Seeker1961:
But it’s only Walmart workers that you view with disdain, they don’t deserve better, do they?
I have no disdain for Walmart workers. If they have decided having Sundays/holidays off is important, they can certainly demand it and possibly lose their jobs. That is the risk I took. That said, they should have known that Sundays/holidays are part of working retail. I didn’t strike. I sat down with my employer and laid out my situation.

Ditto for football players and concession workers…but you only sort of care about them. Not to the point that you are calling for them to strike and/or have their franchises suffer financially over it.
 
Yep.

Sure. In fact, if they didn’t realize they would be working weekends and holidays, they are not bright, and the military shouldn’t have accepted them.

Not “continue.” It’s a little more difficult to just quit the military, and it isn’t a “non-essential” job. After their stint is up, they can certainly change careers.

Again, not non-essential jobs, and, yes, if having holidays and weekends off was a greater priority to them, they should have chosen a different profession.

I have no disdain for Walmart workers. If they have decided having Sundays/holidays off is important, they can certainly demand it and possibly lose their jobs. That is the risk I took. That said, they should have known that Sundays/holidays are part of working retail. I didn’t strike. I sat down with my employer and laid out my situation.

Ditto for football players and concession workers…but you only sort of care about them. Not to the point that you are calling for them to strike and/or have their franchises suffer financially over it.
Please quote my post that says I would not support the right of football players and concession workers to strike over their hours. Take your time finding it, this is my weekend so I have time.
 
Please quote my post that says I would not support the right of football players and concession workers to strike over their hours. Take your time finding it, this is my weekend so I have time.
I never claimed you wouldn’t “support the right.” Please quote my post where I claimed that. Take your time reading what I posted. It is my weekend, so I also have the time.
 
Yep.

Sure. In fact, if they didn’t realize they would be working weekends and holidays, they are not bright, and the military shouldn’t have accepted them.

Not “continue.” It’s a little more difficult to just quit the military, and it isn’t a “non-essential” job. After their stint is up, they can certainly change careers.

Again, not non-essential jobs, and, yes, if having holidays and weekends off was a greater priority to them, they should have chosen a different profession.

I have no disdain for Walmart workers. If they have decided having Sundays/holidays off is important, they can certainly demand it and possibly lose their jobs. That is the risk I took. That said, they should have known that Sundays/holidays are part of working retail. I didn’t strike. I sat down with my employer and laid out my situation.

Ditto for football players and concession workers…but you only sort of care about them. Not to the point that you are calling for them to strike and/or have their franchises suffer financially over it.
See final paragraph…
 
I grew up in an era when all of the stores were closed every Sunday. It is pretty hard to imagine the way it cuts into family time when Wal Mart workers have to work these ridiculous hours. How on earth do single parents find people to watch their children while they work these hours?

Fortunately, there is no Wal Mart close to where I live. If there was, I wouldn’t shop there. I simply can’t stand businesses that treat their employees like dirt. If the Wal Mart employees have a union, I hope they go on strike to get the workers decent pay and hours.

I have been inside a Wal Mart a few times when I was traveling somewhere, and it was the only store I could find that had what I needed. It was just so depressing to go in there. It gave me some sort of oppressive feeling, and I just couldn’t wait to get out of there.

I think it is sickening, too, that many stores are requiring workers to go to work on Thanksgiving Day so they can get ready for Black Friday. I personally can’t stand Black Friday, and I will go out of my way to keep from buying anything on that day.
 
Difference between “calling for” and “supporting the right” to strike?

Significant.
Not only would I not cross the picket line, I’d carry a sign and march too-for the football players on Thanksgiving, the basketball players on Christmas, the baseball players on Easter and anyone connected to those events that has to be away from their families on a holiday. Throw the Muslim and Jewish holidays in there too if you like. I’d march for them to be with their families too.

People and familes are more important than how much money you can make. If the job is not essential, and mature people can certainly agree on what is essential in a functioning sociey, 24 hours without it won’t do anyone any damage.

I work Sundays, but it doesn’t interfere with Church attendance or time with family or friends because I get other days off in exchange. The issue at hand is holidays.
 
Not only would I not cross the picket line, …
A lot of people will cross a picket line, especially if survival is involved. And there are a rapidly increasing number of people who don’t celebrate these holidays anyway. Fact. They sit around and watch tv and drink.
 
Not only would I not cross the picket line, …
The point was, you’ve gone all these years without calling for football players and concessioneers to go on strike.

So why do many have an overwrought emotional response to WalMart employees working on Thanksgiving, while other non-essential employees have been working that day for years?

I would point out that our great republic isn’t a theocracy, so asking for national holidays for Christian, Muslim and Jewish faiths might be a violation of the Establishment Clause. 😉
 
So why do many have an overwrought emotional response to WalMart employees working on Thanksgiving, while other non-essential employees have been working that day for years?
This is really true. A lot of employees of public services like power companies and hospitals work on holidays. You can’t shut everything down, and you wouldn’t want to. Walmart employees may think that the universe revolves around them, but it isn’t so. If they’re not careful, they’re going to find this out the hard way.
 
Just saw this on Facebook and thought of this thread. Our men and women serving over seas aren’t complaining about missing Turkey Day with their families…

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Difference between “calling for” and “supporting the right” to strike?

Significant.
There really is no difference, unless you are looking for reasons to attack another poster because they don’t agree with you.
 
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