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It was sarcasm. Though not like the way you post about muslims being terrorists.
 
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Shadowcry:
It was sarcasm. Though not like the way you post about muslims being terrorists.
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Uhh maybe there’s a bit lost in translation but there’s no way that this statement from you:

“Or their too busy drinking to be with their families. Please don’t tell me about Catholics in Pakistan. I think I now them better then you.”

could be taken as sarcasm. You make these offensive comments, then just say it was sarcasm, please. And Muslims do torment Christians in Pakistan that’s a fact…
 
Especially when I am a Pakistani Christian Lol I think I know my brothers here better then you lol.
 
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Shadowcry:
Especially when I am a Pakistani Christian Lol I think I know my brothers here better then you lol.
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Yeah O.K. sure, you’re full of it buddy…

You’ve been an admitted Muslim on this board for as long as I’ve been posting here.
 
Yeah you can’t.

To all other people I am sorry if I offended you with that comment. I took my sense of sarcasm to far.
 
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Shadowcry:
Associating religions with prisons? lol MrS you should be a comic.
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Shadowcry, this is a sad but true fact in the US. Moslems target the incarcerated because they can convince them that Christianity got them no where and Islam somehow will? I don’t get it either, but they are also targeting black men more than white men for some reason.
 
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Dear radhika:

If you are not aware of something does not mean that it is not happened/happening.

You mean Indian Nobel Prize Nominee Dr. Kamala Surayya too is a misguided Hindu girl, who embraced Islam?

******http://www.jamiat.org.za/

You’re joking right ? her Hindu community in Kerala heaved a collective sigh of relief when she discarded all ties with them and converted.(By the way the reason for her conversion was a young man, twenty years younger then her. ) i do not think it was an overwhelming desire to pursue islam as the true religion.She was never a Nobel prize nominee and never will win a Nobel prize. have you read any of her books?
 
OK OK . ye christians , take it easy , I didnt know that you have all these feeling to Islam …
anyway I got what i was looking for.

ok I dont know if u dont understand the topic , or you run away…
I want to say that if you want to talk , ok but I think this name (non-catholic religion corner) should be (Islam corner) 🙂
  1. The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account.
 
Ishmael's child:
OK OK . ye christians , take it easy , I didnt know that you have all these feeling to Islam …
anyway I got what i was looking for.

ok I dont know if u dont understand the topic , or you run away…
I want to say that if you want to talk , ok but I think this name (non-catholic religion corner) should be (Islam corner) 🙂
  1. The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account.
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Ishmael,
I think it is you that doesn’t have a clue. non-catholic is alot more than just Islam…infact, Islam is a very small corner of it. You know I would bet bottom dollar that if your God was a God that actually gave his people a choice, to love and serve him, your God would be sorely disappointed so he has to threaten and coerce people to stay in his religion…how sad. Be assured, Christians choose to follow God because they have faith and love in him. They desire to do his will, not for the reward or punishment but because they believe and desire to.
 
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BlestOne:
Ishmael,
I think it is you that doesn’t have a clue. non-catholic is alot more than just Islam…infact, Islam is a very small corner of it. You know I would bet bottom dollar that if your God was a God that actually gave his people a choice, to love and serve him, your God would be sorely disappointed so he has to threaten and coerce people to stay in his religion…how sad. Be assured, Christians choose to follow God because they have faith and love in him. They desire to do his will, not for the reward or punishment but because they believe and desire to.
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Christians follow the True Prophet…Jesus Christ… not the prophet John the Baptist who announced the Lamb of God for the world.

Muslims follow Muhammad, a man (first big mistake) not based on any directive from any God… only based on the works of Muhammad.
 
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BlestOne:
Shadowcry, this is a sad but true fact in the US. Moslems target the incarcerated because they can convince them that Christianity got them no where and Islam somehow will? I don’t get it either, but they are also targeting black men more than white men for some reason.
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The reason is the Nation of Islam: noi.org/

Names like Malcolm X and Minister Farrakhan may ring a bell. Generally, they are most famous for their hateful speeches about the “white oppressors”. It is a very racist organization.

In prisons, they are basically an alternative gang for black inmates. Their equivalent in the white prison population would not be Christian converts…rather, look to the skinheads/neo-Nazis and you would have a pretty close match.
 
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rlg94086:
The reason is the Nation of Islam: noi.org/

Names like Malcolm X and Minister Farrakhan may ring a bell. Generally, they are most famous for their hateful speeches about the “white oppressors”. It is a very racist organization.

In prisons, they are basically an alternative gang for black inmates. Their equivalent in the white prison population would not be Christian converts…rather, look to the skinheads/neo-Nazis and you would have a pretty close match.
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This is classic:

"By 1964, Minister Malcolm X decided to separate from the Nation of Islam and formed his own religious and political organization. His very public defection from the Nation of Islam was based on his misinterpretation of the domestic life of the Hon. Elijah Muhammad Nevertheless, the atmosphere of rancor on both sides made ripe the environment for the secret police to meddle in the affairs of the Nation of Islam, according the late attorney, William Kuntsler. Mr. Kuntsler cited a declassified memo obtained through the Freedom of Information Act that revealed that the U.S. Government played a role in the 1965 assassination of Brother Malcolm X."

I mean it’s essentially a proven fact that Malcom X left because Elijah Muhamed was a fraud, a womanizer and a liar. Malcom X found true Islam, an Islam not based on skin color. Malcom X left the Nation of Islam and spoke out against it, and then they killed him. But they blame his death on the US government, when the triggermen wer black male members of the nation of Islam.
 
I’m not a Malcolm X expert (or is that Malcolm Xpert? 😃 ), but this is also my understanding. He grew very disillusioned with the NOI. In addition to speaking against them, I believe he also changed his approach to race relations in a more positive direction.
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Mike_D30:
This is classic:

"By 1964, Minister Malcolm X decided to separate from the Nation of Islam and formed his own religious and political organization. His very public defection from the Nation of Islam was based on his misinterpretation of the domestic life of the Hon. Elijah Muhammad Nevertheless, the atmosphere of rancor on both sides made ripe the environment for the secret police to meddle in the affairs of the Nation of Islam, according the late attorney, William Kuntsler. Mr. Kuntsler cited a declassified memo obtained through the Freedom of Information Act that revealed that the U.S. Government played a role in the 1965 assassination of Brother Malcolm X."

I mean it’s essentially a proven fact that Malcom X left because Elijah Muhamed was a fraud, a womanizer and a liar. Malcom X found true Islam, an Islam not based on skin color. Malcom X left the Nation of Islam and spoke out against it, and then they killed him. But they blame his death on the US government, when the triggermen wer black male members of the nation of Islam.
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Shadowcry:
Associating religions with prisons? lol MrS you should be a comic.
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Converted to Islam

Name Occupation Birth Death Known for
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Basketball 16-Apr-1947 NBA records for most minutes, most points
Mumia Abu-Jamal Criminal 23-Apr-1954 Free Mumia With Every Purchase
Muhammad Ali Boxing 17-Jan-1942 Floats like butterfly, stings like bee
Idi Amin Head of State c. 1924 16-Aug-2003 Former dictator of Uganda
Art Blakey Drummer 11-Oct-1919 16-Oct-1990 Principal bebop instigator and drummer
Emperor Bokassa I Royalty 22-Feb-1921 3-Nov-1996 Central African Emperor
H. Rap Brown Activist 4-Oct-1943 Die, N```````, Die!
Louis Farrakhan Religion 11-May-1933 Leader of Nation of Islam
Stepin Fetchit Actor 30-May-1902 19-Nov-1985 Professional black stereotype
David Hicks Military 7-Aug-1975 Australia’s answer to John Walker Lindh
Carlos the Jackal Terrorist 12-Oct-1949 International terrorist
John Walker Lindh Criminal 9-Feb-1981 The American Taliban
Lee Malvo Criminal 18-Feb-1985 One of the two Washington Snipers
Abu Hamza al-Masri Religion 15-Apr-1958 Imam of Finsbury Park Mosque
John Allen Muhammad Criminal 31-Dec-1960 DC sniper
Queen Noor First Lady 23-Aug-1951 Queen of Jordan
Jose Padilla Terrorist 18-Oct-1970 Alleged Terrorist
Emin Pasha Explorer 28-Mar-1840 23-Oct-1892 German colonial traveller in Africa
Q-Tip Rapper 20-Nov-1970 A Tribe Called Quest
Rakim Rapper 28-Jan-1968 Eric B and Rakim
Ahmad Rashad TV Personality 19-Nov-1949 Sportscaster, married Phylicia Rashad
Richard Reid Criminal 12-Aug-1973 Shoe bomber
MC Ren Rapper 14-Jun-1969 Middle verse on Straight Outta Compton
Jack Roche Terrorist 31-Oct-1953 al Qaeda’s man in Australia
Betty Shabazz Activist 28-May-1936 23-Jun-1997 Widow of Malcolm X
Cat Stevens Musician 21-Jul-1948 Morning Has Broken
Mike Tyson Boxing 30-Jun-1966 Crazy tattooed lispy boxer, recidivist
John Whitehead Musician 2-Jul-1948 11-May-2004 Ain’t No Stoppin’ Us Now
Malcolm X Activist 19-May-1925 21-Feb-1965 Nation of Islam
 
To answer the first post:

Yes, we are talking about how violent and murderous Islam is. How it degrades humanity and fosters terrorism. How Muslims persecute Christians and kill the innocent. Let’s hear you cheer some more.
 
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MrS:
Christianity was/is the fullfillment of the Old Testament and is meant for all. There was NEVER any attempt to build Christianity from the oppressed.
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You are very correct to say the Gospel of the Christ is the fulfilment of the Torah. The Lord Jesus showed the world that the Torah was intended for all humans, and not Jews alone. He showed the whole world how to properly interpret Torah, rejecting the false interpretations from the Jewish Gospel known as Babylonian Talmud, which he called teachings of the devil.

Christian faith comprises of three primary sources:

Old Testament @ Torah (Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil)
New Testament @ Talmud of Jesus (Tree of Life)
Cathecism of Catholic Church @ Summary of 2000yrs Church Traditions guided by Holy Spirit.

Torah is transcedantal knowledge, the words of God the Father. Only the Son of God who knows the Father can make Halakha, ie. valid interpretations on Torah.

If you read Old Testament, you will notice some amazing things:
  1. Ishmael
    (a) those who are under the Law
    (b) children born into slavery
  2. Esav or Edom
    (a) those who hate their inheritance
    (b) people who the Lord is angry forever
    (c) God hates Esav
  3. Jacob or Israel
    (a) Christian Church
    (b) Roman Empire
Questions, I invite others to answer:
  1. Who do you think is Ishmael ? Judaism, Islam, or Marxism?
  2. Who do you think is Esav ? Judaism, Islam or Marxism?
  3. Do you agree with me Israel is the Christian Church?
    If no, in detail tell me why.
 
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LilyM:
Islam has as its major focus the redemption of sinners through belief in Allah and Mohammed his Prophet.
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Islam could be the Ishmaelites in the Torah. They do not want to redeem sinners but enslave mankind into sin.
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LilyM:
The fact is religion of all kinds appeals most to the poor and downtrodden and will find its major base among these classes - isn’t that why Marx called it 'opiate of the masses?
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Religion such as Christian faith, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism and Judaism surely appeal to the poor and downtrodden. But not Islam, which appeals to the rich and powerful.

Islam gives power, domination and authority to the ruling elite as well as justifies the existance of dictatorships. From its inception in the 7th century, Islam has been ruled by military dictators, from Muhammad who passed succession to Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali. This continued right until the destruction of the Caliphate in 1924 with the defeat of the Islamic Empire in World War 1 by the Allied forces.

On the day the central military ruler of Islam, the Caliphate, who is the Islamic Pope had been abolished and the Islamic Empire disbanded and dismembered into 57 weak sects, each sect fighting one another.

These 57 sects form what is known the Organisation of Islamic Conference but it is a powerless body as it has no central dictator to direct the Ummah, which is the Islamic Church.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to give me your reactions, positive or negative.
 
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LilyM:
When I quote Marx it doesn’t mean I believe in Communism or atheism any more than if I quoted Luther or the Quran it would mean I belived in them … :banghead: That would make inJesus at least a fairly thoroughgoing Muslim, wouldn’t it?
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LilyM, you must know that both you and inJesus are Trinitarian Muslims that is Muslims (people who submit to God) who confess the Nicene Creed.
 
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