A lot of folks of any stripe are bothered by that.
You, individually, may not have made such a claim. But a substantial portion (maybe as high as 10%) of American Catholics would suggest that BC be forbidden as well.Freddy:
Except I haven’t done that. Contraception is available here in the U.S. and nobody is talking about restrictions anyways so nobody is being denied anything.
It’s still not enough to actually do anything so it sounds more like a bogeyman.
'We asked Carl Wahren, a family planning and population expert, who has worked on population topics over 50 years (at IPPF, OECD and the UN), about the attitudes of subsequent popes. Being involved in family planning programs since their beginnings in several parts of the world, Carl has strong opinions on the role of the Catholic Church in population-related topics. In an interview in 2019, he said: “ *John Paul II made absolutely sure that not a single Catholic person, layman or priest ever should hand out a condom even if AIDS struck Africa like a torrent, and the same thing with other contraception….and then pope Benedict XVI followed… These two popes, the one after the other, made life miserable and put all these nuns and priests in an agonizing fight with their own consciousness, since they had to stop handing out contraception to poor women with eight kids, or to people with HIV. ” The Catholic Church and contraception - The Overpopulation ProjectFreddy:
Except I haven’t done that. Contraception is available here in the U.S. and nobody is talking about restrictions anyways so no one is being denied anything.
Yeah, still trying to convince myself I’m right and everyone else is wrong…
It sounds more like the rest of the world is at fault if out of all of them, the one group that doesn’t support contraception has to pitch in.
I think you’re misreading the situation. It’s the Catholics are the one group who are actively working to prevent the accesibility of contraception. On religious grounds. Everyone else seems to think it’s the easiest solution to solving the problems.Freddy:
It sounds more like the rest of the world is at fault if out of all of them, the one group that doesn’t support contraception has to pitch in.
The excerpt you posted only mention a prohibition on Catholics otherwise literally any else is allowed to give them. Accessibility seems fine unless the secular organizations are somehow failing.
So it’s fine to issue contracepetion? You have no problem in people having access to it?Freddy:
The excerpt you posted only mention a prohibition on Catholics otherwise literally any else is allowed to give them. Accessibility seems fine unless the secular organizations are somehow failing.
I take issue to it, but that doesn’t really have an effect practically speaking so it doesn’t matter.
If they aren’t following the rest of the Churches teaching on sexuality, then yes.
I find it strange if somebody is willing to have sex outside of marriage but not use birth control because it’s a mortal sin.
Your analogy has them being burned either way. So being willing to commit one mortal sin but not another still doesn’t make sense.
But they will also be engaging in a another sin that will bring them to hell and spreads disease so clearly that doesn’t make any sense.
That’s unlikely and antibacterials have similar success rates.
The Church hasn’t failed, if anything the secular institutions failed if they haven’t been able to provide enough contraception that they think is neccessary.
The one who is absurd is the one who is doing risky behavior and not doing anything about and then blaming it on the Church.
So is avoiding disease but someone is being halfbaked in what they are willing to do.
As if these are the only two options.
What you propose is indefensible, are they going to break the teachings and expose themselves to risk, but at the same time not use birth control and accept the risk? No reasonable person would do that.
This analogy doesn’t even apply, they don’t need the Catholic Church to babysit them with birth control when there are already secular institutions that do this.
There’s tons of completely selfish false reasons used to defend Murdering the babe in the womb
That just means your analogy is invalid because there are other options that don’t require the Church and are available.
Maybe in your analogy. In the real world you’re in danger of hell for having sex outside of marriage, so if you’re willing to risk hell to have sex it makes no sense not to use contraception because it’s a mortal sin.