What is antisemitism?

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Picking individual lines from 1500-2000 year old theology texts of any religion and holding it as a cause for any action or excuse against a group seems rather questionable to me.
 
Truth does not fear investigation. If it is proven to be Alex Jones-tier tomfoolery, then that’s the end of it. I am deeply concerned with what their own words say. Google Ovadiah Yosef, Ariel Sharon, Tim Wise, Menachem Begin, or Maurice Samuel’s “You Gentiles”.
 
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Truth does not fear investigation. If it is proven to be Alex Jones-tier tomfoolery, then that’s the end of it. I am deeply concerned with what their own words say. Google Ovadiah Yosef, Ariel Sharon, Tim Wise, Menachem Begin, or Maurice Samuel’s “You Gentiles”.
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All of this has been investigated a hundred times over. Perhaps instead of frequenting antisemitic sites you might read about the history of antisemitism and its current resurgence.
 
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As another poster has stated, criticizing Jews as a group is certainly anti-Semitic.
As to the state of Israel, criticizing it’s policies is not anti-Semitic. Criticizing it’s right to exist or the need for it to exist is most certainly anti-Semitic.
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This is as good a place as any to point out that there is a difference between anti-Semitism (hatred of the Jews as a people) and anti-Zionism (opposition to the existence of Israel as a state). There are some Jewish groups that are anti-Zionist.

That said, one should not be thought to be either anti-Zionist or anti-Semitic, just on the basis of opposition to some of the policies of the Israeli government.

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How has it been refuted? I never see refutations of any of these. It’s always waved away as mere bigotry or “out of context”.
Please, understand that I am asking these in good faith. I desperately want to be wrong in my misgivings.
Understand that, in real life, I have been lied to and stabbed in the back before. I have resolved to never be betrayed again, which makes me question and interrogate every official narrative.

Does that make me a tinfoil hat wearer? Maybe. Or it makes me a free thinker who isn’t afraid to ask heavy questions.
 
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Until the Dreyfus affair, Zionism could find little support among Jews in America and Western Europe. They wrongly believed that they could finally assimilate in a liberal democratic society and be safe.
But today, after seeing that assimilation into a society has failed to protect them, I believe that anti-zionism is a form of anti-Semitism. I understand that technically, they are two different things.
 
Do I need to explain to you why jet fuel doesn’t have to be able to melt steel beams?

There’s no reason to waste time refuting claims that never had any basis or reputable claimants to begin with.
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Or it makes me a free thinker who isn’t afraid to ask heavy questions.
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This is exactly how wacko conspiracy theorists describe themselves, before going on a wacky Icke tangent.
 
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How has it been refuted? I never see refutations of any of these. It’s always waved away as mere bigotry or “out of context”.
Please, understand that I am asking these in good faith. I desperately want to be wrong in my misgivings.
Understand that, in real life, I have been lied to and stabbed in the back before. I have resolved to never be betrayed again, which makes me question and interrogate every official narrative.

Does that make me a tinfoil hat wearer? Maybe. Or it makes me a free thinker who isn’t afraid to ask heavy questions.
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First tell me where you found the image.

(BTW, be wary of the “free thinker who isn’t afraid to ask heavy questions” kind of thinking when dealing with conspiracy theories – this is the same line used by Holocaust deniers.)
 
You know what we need? We need tolerance. All religions have their element of supremacy and triumphalism. But since we’ve all got to live together in this globalised word, it’s time to emphasise peaceful coexistence.
 
May I suggest that saying “The Jews” is a bit like saying “The Blacks” or “The Catholics.” None of these groups is monolithic in their views, and none of them has a uniform agenda.
 
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Antisemitism is an unclean spirit that is used to shield the Jewish people from the truth that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
 
A note on the Talmud…it is ancient rabbinic commentary from many different rabbis and just because one rabbi made a comment like that is meaningless. Some Jews had their prejudices just like anyone else. Most likely if you read all of it you will find that no laws were made from one comment like that!

To further the point, have no early church fathers made some comments that are embarrassing to Catholics today?
 
Pattylt said:
A note on the Talmud…it is ancient rabbinic commentary from many different rabbis and just because one rabbi made a comment like that is meaningless. Some Jews had their prejudices just like anyone else. Most likely if you read all of it you will find that no laws were made from one comment like that!

To further the point, have no early church fathers made some comments that are embarrassing to Catholics today?
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Nope, nope, they surely never did
Nothing to see here, please disperse
 
That’s what Ivy League universities such as Harvard and Yale used to think as well in the 19th century and early 20th century. Too many Jewish students, and since we don’t like Jews anyway, being barbarians and Christ killers, let’s have a quota system of, say, only 10% of Jewish students admitted no matter how academically qualified they are. And, while we’re at it, let’s also exclude Jewish faculty so that we prevent them from having too much power and influence. Nowadays, it’s the highly suspect intellectual and business savvy Asians who are facing exclusion and quota systems in academia. Being successful is a crime, don’t you know?
 
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The notion of Jews as a unified cabal that exert “too much” influence is anti semitism
 
Your response was—and this is the first time I’ve used this word seriously not in the context of joking it quotation, so note it—cringeworthy.
Israel is perhaps the lone bastion of any sort of freedom, rule of law, respect for human rights and life, and peace left in the Middle East. It already deserves our respect and our aid for that alone.
The reason that criticism of Israel will get you so quickly castigated is because, most commonly, the criticism is followed up quickly with accusation of the same actions their worst enemies commit daily or, worse, denial of the country’s very right to exist.
 
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