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Walking_Home
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Agree.
What REALLY happened in the Garden! Women the weaker of the two sexes? (All in fun)
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Agree.
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Lady_Love
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I read once that
Women image God in their mysteriousness, complexity, their changeability, their beauty, their nurturing, gentleness, their receptivity, and that they bear new life. (We could use the earth to image women)
Men image God as a Protector, provider, their constancy, their simplicity, their generosity, and how they are the source of new life. (We could use the Sun to image the man)
Women image God in their mysteriousness, complexity, their changeability, their beauty, their nurturing, gentleness, their receptivity, and that they bear new life. (We could use the earth to image women)
Men image God as a Protector, provider, their constancy, their simplicity, their generosity, and how they are the source of new life. (We could use the Sun to image the man)
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Lady_Love
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If God wanted men taking care of the children He would have made MEN’S breast to produce milk!
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Lady_Love
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AlanFromWichita
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Basically you’re saying that men are about control, and ordering things, and women are about chaos and surprise? As an engineer, of course I need a picture, so I would like to compare graphical representations of “well-behaved” functions v. fractal equations. You tell me which you find more beautiful. Bwahaha!
Man: Ordered, well-behaved, controlled, predictable. Structured, simple:
http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fx_files/21944/2/DancingPeaks.gif
Compare to:
Woman: Random, chaotic behavior, defies control, unpredictable. Unstructured, complex:
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Walking_Home
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Walking_Home:
If God wanted men taking care of the children He would have made MEN’S breast to produce milk!
A mother can nurse her child – when she is home – and pump/store her milk – to feed the child when she is away.
Some women – do not produce sufficient milk to adequately provide for the infant/child – so they bottle feed. This does not make them any less than those who breast feed.
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simple_soul
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Wow that is so cool! I wonder can or do you have a program that combines both?
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Shamati
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The woman in her Highest Spiritual state can teach us much about how to confront problems.
I think of it as the Woman being like the Ocean. Complete receptivity but unsurpassed in power. Imagine a flowing river in which a large stone is placed. The river continues to flow with no change in power but naturally divided itself in both sides of the stone to continue forward with same power. The feminine aspect. Id like to think of the Mother of God in the way: complete receptivity. This is how one should ideally adjust to problems in Life and just naturally move forward with no loss of complete receptiveness of the Holy Spirit.
I think of it as the Woman being like the Ocean. Complete receptivity but unsurpassed in power. Imagine a flowing river in which a large stone is placed. The river continues to flow with no change in power but naturally divided itself in both sides of the stone to continue forward with same power. The feminine aspect. Id like to think of the Mother of God in the way: complete receptivity. This is how one should ideally adjust to problems in Life and just naturally move forward with no loss of complete receptiveness of the Holy Spirit.
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Nimzovik
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**SilentFactor80 Wrote:"…**I really don’t appreciate the snide and snarky misrepresentation of my words here. Guess what, most guys would do that with myself included! However if I had a wife that didn’t appreciate it, constantly pointed out my every fault and complained when I pointed out hers, and thought she was entitled to my efforts without respecting me in return I would not do squat for her."
Nimzovik Responds:
I think the technically correct, clinical word for such women is 'Feminist.’
Don’t marry one.
Friends don’t let friends marry one of those…
Nimzovik Responds:
I think the technically correct, clinical word for such women is 'Feminist.’
Don’t marry one.
Friends don’t let friends marry one of those…
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cheezey
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grannymh
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One of the tragic consequences of Original Sin was that not only harmony between humanity and divinity was lost, but also lost was the original harmony between man and woman. Therefore, the blame game.I am begining to wonder if the story of Adam and Eve was written just so men and women would spend the next how many years blaiming each other for everything.or trying to “prove” to the other how it was or was not thier fault and why.
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grannymh
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The issue in the Garden was not who would lay down one’s life for whom.
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Lost_Wanderer
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Really? This reminds me of my mother. You know? With the whole clean up your room, keep your shoes, and all that?
Wait, are you saying only women get all the fun?
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cheezey
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Well!!! So much for All IN FUN…
All about Eve…
“Since she did not come from mans feet she was not meant to be trampled by man, and since she did not come from his head she was not meant to rule over man. She came from his side to signify they were meant to be an equal partnership.”
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I say let us put man and a woman together
To find out which one is smarter
Some say man but I say no
The woman got the man like a puppet show
Little boy sat down and cried
An old man passing asked him why
He said " I can’t do what the big boys do."
Old man sat down and he cried too.
And not me but the people they say
The men are leading the women astray
But I say, that the women of today
Smarter than the man in every way
That’s right de woman is uh smarter
That’s right de woman is uh smarter
That’s right de woman is uh smarter, that’s right, that’s right
Ever since the world began
Woman was always teaching man
And I you listen to my bid attentively
I goin’ tell you how she smarter than me
Samson was the strongest man long ago
No one could a beat him, as we all know
Until he clash with Deliah on top of the bed
She told them all the strength was in the hair of his head
Garden of Eden was very nice
Adam never work in Paradise
Eve meet snake, Paradise gone
She make Adam work from that day on
Methusaleh spent all his life in tears
Lived without a woman for 900 years
One day he decided to have some fun
The poor man never lived to see 900 and one
All in fun…
All about Eve…
“Since she did not come from mans feet she was not meant to be trampled by man, and since she did not come from his head she was not meant to rule over man. She came from his side to signify they were meant to be an equal partnership.”
~
I say let us put man and a woman together
To find out which one is smarter
Some say man but I say no
The woman got the man like a puppet show
Little boy sat down and cried
An old man passing asked him why
He said " I can’t do what the big boys do."
Old man sat down and he cried too.
And not me but the people they say
The men are leading the women astray
But I say, that the women of today
Smarter than the man in every way
That’s right de woman is uh smarter
That’s right de woman is uh smarter
That’s right de woman is uh smarter, that’s right, that’s right
Ever since the world began
Woman was always teaching man
And I you listen to my bid attentively
I goin’ tell you how she smarter than me
Samson was the strongest man long ago
No one could a beat him, as we all know
Until he clash with Deliah on top of the bed
She told them all the strength was in the hair of his head
Garden of Eden was very nice
Adam never work in Paradise
Eve meet snake, Paradise gone
She make Adam work from that day on
Methusaleh spent all his life in tears
Lived without a woman for 900 years
One day he decided to have some fun
The poor man never lived to see 900 and one
All in fun…
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grannymh
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Did I miss the announcement about Original Sin? 
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simple_soul
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Totally got that.One of the tragic consequences of Original Sin was that not only harmony between humanity and divinity was lost, but also lost was the original harmony between man and woman. Therefore, the blame game.
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simple_soul
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*So, before the fall Adam and Eve’s lack of shame they had for one another because they saw and received each other as a gift and sought only to give themselves to one another, not to use the other, did not include protecting one another even if it cost them thier lives? *
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AlanFromWichita
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Yes, I know some are like that. My own mom let me slack off on those things. Drives my wife nuts, but guess whose side of the family “won” the clutter/anti-clutter contest?Really? This reminds me of my mother. You know? With the whole clean up your room, keep your shoes, and all that?
Oh no. I’m just using stereotypes to show the distinction. I reserve the right to be chaotic and complex. But when it’s me, instead of “unpredictable” I like to call it “mysterious.” Bwahaha.Wait, are you saying only women get all the fun?
My body may be male, but my spirit seems to have both components and is not afraid to show it! :whacky:
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grannymh
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Fun and games on this thread are fine. I do enjoy the humor.
Catholicism does teach that Adam and Eve were subject to the moral norms that govern their use of freedom. Since this is a fun thread, one can submit all kinds of fun moral issues. I posted that at least Eve did not have to worry about Adam cheating on her because she was the only woman in the garden.
As far as the issue of protecting one another even if it cost them their lives– Maybe someone else has the chapter and verse which describes this issue for this thread. In any case, if one is interested, my suggestion is to check out the really serious Garden issue described in the first three chapters of Genesis. This is the one which was between Adam and the Divine Creator (not between Adam and Eve) on some other more serious thread. Source of Catholic teachings on the subject is the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, paragraphs 355-421. Warning! This is not a page-turner.
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Domiy
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The Church does not say anything for or against the concept of gender roles or who should work etc, but I just think in light of scripture demands and the ways things were back then (and as developed as society may be, lets not kid ourselves, we are in a much worse state when it comes to morals and ethics), it should be replicated; ie, men should maintain their role as workers and women as wives. I personally believe strongly that if it’s possible for only 1 partner to work (which is very hard today), Catholic couples should adopt the concept and be grateful that they can afford to do so.
The reason for this is that it maintains character between genders, which is kind of what the scriptures were warning and talking about. Nobody denies that women are capable of working and succeeding, but I feel that if it becomes a norm for women to work (as is slowly happening today), the character and persona created by God between the 2 genders will slowly disappear. God clearly has a different desire for the 2 genders, and their roles and characters should be maintained for faiths sake; ie, men should remain the masculine, dominant, workers and providers, and women should remain the feminine, gentle, housewives. It’s important for kids growing up to be able to take the view of 2 different role models; a manly father who works, and a gentle mother who takes care of duties at home. Two couples working or reversing the process would upset a balance, which I believe is against what God wanted. Not to say that God doesn’t want women to work, but they should always remember who and what they are; the woman, the gentle and loving child nurturer. This is the way I was raised, and it worked wonders for all of us (big family of kids). The boys got married and worked hard for occupational success and financial comfort for the family, while the girls got married and attended to the needs of the husband and the kids, and in return they didn’t have to wake up early, sit through traffic, and take orders at work for 8 hours a day. Sounds like a fair deal to me.
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