What to do when you feel rebellion in your soul against the reality of your vocation

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About the question about whether anyone else would hire me. Two thoughts. First, other people already have hired me to teach. I taught full-time for $10K/year at that private school. Yeah. It was (still is) an excellent school. Teaching itself is a vocation, one to which I was obviously called, because I happily did al that work for what was likely not enough to cover the costs of my transportation and professional attire and materials. All of we teachers at the school worked so hard and were supported by our husbands to work there.
But would you hire you now to do the work you are doing now–not several years ago you and the work you were doing then. Do you think that it would be reasonable to ask an employee to do what you expect of yourself now?

If it would not be reasonable to expect a hired employee to labor 16 hours a day 7 days a week (plus night wakeups) for the next 10-20 years, it isn’t reasonable to expect that of yourself.

Please talk to your pastor.
 
But would you hire you now to do the work you are doing now–not several years ago you and the work you were doing then. Do you think that it would be reasonable to ask an employee to do what you expect of yourself now?

If it would not be reasonable to expect a hired employee to labor 16 hours a day 7 days a week (plus night wakeups) for the next 10-20 years, it isn’t reasonable to expect that of yourself.

Please talk to your pastor.
I am not a hireling. I am a mother. The old saying still applies: “A mother’s work is never done.”

I am asking for advice on how to overcome my inner rebellion, not encouragement to lay down my cross and claim it is too heavy. I WANT to be doing this, but I still battle against my selfishness. THAT is what I am seeking advice about. Selfishness and exhaustion are notorious joy stealers. Those are what I want to overcome.
 
I am not a hireling. I am a mother. The old saying still applies: “A mother’s work is never done.”

I am asking for advice on how to overcome my inner rebellion, not encouragement to lay down my cross and claim it is too heavy. I WANT to be doing this, but I still battle against my selfishness. THAT is what I am seeking advice about. Selfishness and exhaustion are notorious joy stealers. Those are what I want to overcome.
I just want to say I am proud of you for living your vocation in all times, not just when it is easy. What you are describing sounds normal to me. I’ve been there and have overcome it numerous times over the years–and honestly homeschooling the kids now is much easier on me than when I had them all in school. The stress level at home has dropped quite measurably since we started homeschooling last year. Currently 7 of my 8 are in classes. The youngest is a teachers helper I guess. Life is a continuous cycle. Allow yourself to experience the natural flow of emotions. The harder you fight against them, the longer they take to move on. It is a cycle and it will repeat numerous times through out life. Learn to accept that and cherish the joy as it comes. Don’t dread the hard times and instead look forward to the good times. I urge you to actively seek joy each and every day. Focus on the good and let go of the bad. I know it’s easier said than done, but I assure you that if I have learned to do this, anybody can. Please ignore those that would have you give up the vocation God has hand picked for you. Many in this life have done that and many more will in the future. In the end, the struggle is worth it. Enjoy your ride through life, even with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. Please know that I know what you are going through and I speak from experience when I say it will work itself out and you will be stronger because of the things you experience. I’m proud of you for accepting God’s will even when it doesn’t necessarily always align with your own and especially when it is the harder road. You are in my prayers
 
I am not a hireling. I am a mother. The old saying still applies: “A mother’s work is never done.”

I am asking for advice on how to overcome my inner rebellion, not encouragement to lay down my cross and claim it is too heavy. I WANT to be doing this, but I still battle against my selfishness. THAT is what I am seeking advice about. Selfishness and exhaustion are notorious joy stealers. Those are what I want to overcome.
But it doesn’t help any of those children if mom died or has a nervous breakdown.
Who told you that Homeschooling is a decidedly Catholic thing?
Catholic school is a Catholic thing.
If your educational system is so wrecked that you can’t fathom sending the children there, then you co-op with a homeschooling group, where you will meet other moms, have adult conversation, move out of the house on some days for school. All mentally healthy things for you and the kids.
I think sometimes we tell people that homeschooling will solve everything.
Sometimes it creates terrible situations.
Think about what your children need. They need a mom that is engaged, happy, holy, and able to deal with their catastrophes.
If you’re on the verge of collapse…it doesn’t matter if it’s what you WANT.
You can have it all. You just can’t have it all at the same time.
**And you are NOT A FAILURE if you don’t homeschool them all, all of the time. **
You are NOT SELFISH. Where did you get this notion? :confused:

Tomorrow our parish Homeschool co-op will be here.
You will be on their prayer intention list.
I think they would be the first ones to tell you…take good care of yourself.

God bless.
 
I am not a hireling. I am a mother. The old saying still applies: “A mother’s work is never done.”

I am asking for advice on how to overcome my inner rebellion, not encouragement to lay down my cross and claim it is too heavy. I WANT to be doing this, but I still battle against my selfishness. THAT is what I am seeking advice about. Selfishness and exhaustion are notorious joy stealers. Those are what I want to overcome.
Hello jmjZelie,

AMEN to the above! I’d have to reread your original post but my guess is that home schooling is not the problem as most have latched on to.

I’d say that it’s just the whole situation put all together.

I mean, our whole christian ideal is to serve others and not be egotistical. Isn’t this what charity (love) is all about? A couple of really important questions in our religion are: Who is Jesus? What is love?

So you’re living your christian ideal but as a human you run into trouble every now and then. This is normal. I go to adult catechism at a sanctuary about 45 minutes away from where I live. What a life. They have their problems too - one had an operation recently. But they’re far from the world and are able to pray 8 hours a day and live in “peace” (if there is any such thing!).

We’re IN the world and our life has to be lived. One of my friends convinced me to to to a psychologist about two years ago. I’m an older person and not against psychologist but only in certain situations. But I figured, Let me go - what can I lose?

You know what he told me? To stop helping out and think about myself! And what else did I expect??? What was I thinking.

I feel that one of the reasons we experience this “inner rebellion” as you call it (nice wording!) is the very fact that we are living in THIS society. How we look is all important, how much of a good time we’re having is all important. etc etc

I don’t know how old you are, younger than I am for sure since you have small children, but when I was raising mine I stayed home from work to raise them and my friends thought I was crazy. That’s back in the 70’s and 80’s.

Great encouragement to be a mother, wife, and do the MOST IMPORTANT job in the world! What has this world come to for goodness sake.

If you believe your children should be home schooled, you should home school them. I sent my kids to catholic schools so they wouldn’t be exposed to what was going on in public shcools and which has just gotten worse.

Jesus said PICK UP YOUR CROSS DAILY. He said IN THIS WORLD YOU WILL HAVE TRIBULATION. I won’t go into my own problems, which are pretty darn heavy, but every day He gives me some strength to continue, every day I look to the Lord for my comfort. Every day I try to remember that it is the evil one who wants to make me feel sad and burdened and nervous and rebellious.

Jesus said: In this world you will have tribulation, but REJOICE for I have overcome the world!

God bless you and strengthen you as you proceed in doing what you feel is correct in God’s eyes and not the eyes of the world.

Fran
Gosh. I can’t believe I carried on so. Maybe because I feel as you do many times. Sorry.
 
Hello jmjZelie,

AMEN to the above! I’d have to reread your original post but my guess is that home schooling is not the problem as most have latched on to.

I’d say that it’s just the whole situation put all together.

I mean, our whole christian ideal is to serve others and not be egotistical. Isn’t this what charity (love) is all about? A couple of really important questions in our religion are: Who is Jesus? What is love?

So you’re living your christian ideal but as a human you run into trouble every now and then. This is normal. I go to adult catechism at a sanctuary about 45 minutes away from where I live. What a life. They have their problems too - one had an operation recently. But they’re far from the world and are able to pray 8 hours a day and live in “peace” (if there is any such thing!).

We’re IN the world and our life has to be lived. One of my friends convinced me to to to a psychologist about two years ago. I’m an older person and not against psychologist but only in certain situations. But I figured, Let me go - what can I lose?

You know what he told me? To stop helping out and think about myself! And what else did I expect??? What was I thinking.

I feel that one of the reasons we experience this “inner rebellion” as you call it (nice wording!) is the very fact that we are living in THIS society. How we look is all important, how much of a good time we’re having is all important. etc etc

I don’t know how old you are, younger than I am for sure since you have small children, but when I was raising mine I stayed home from work to raise them and my friends thought I was crazy. That’s back in the 70’s and 80’s.

Great encouragement to be a mother, wife, and do the MOST IMPORTANT job in the world! What has this world come to for goodness sake.

If you believe your children should be home schooled, you should home school them. I sent my kids to catholic schools so they wouldn’t be exposed to what was going on in public shcools and which has just gotten worse.

Jesus said PICK UP YOUR CROSS DAILY. He said IN THIS WORLD YOU WILL HAVE TRIBULATION. I won’t go into my own problems, which are pretty darn heavy, but every day He gives me some strength to continue, every day I look to the Lord for my comfort. Every day I try to remember that it is the evil one who wants to make me feel sad and burdened and nervous and rebellious.

Jesus said: In this world you will have tribulation, but REJOICE for I have overcome the world!

God bless you and strengthen you as you proceed in doing what you feel is correct in God’s eyes and not the eyes of the world.

Fran
Gosh. I can’t believe I carried on so. Maybe because I feel as you do many times. Sorry.
Awesome post. What an encouragement! I am going to reread this and savor this wisdom. Thank you and may God bless you abundantly.
 
I just want to say I am proud of you for living your vocation in all times, not just when it is easy. What you are describing sounds normal to me. I’ve been there and have overcome it numerous times over the years–and honestly homeschooling the kids now is much easier on me than when I had them all in school. The stress level at home has dropped quite measurably since we started homeschooling last year. Currently 7 of my 8 are in classes. The youngest is a teachers helper I guess. Life is a continuous cycle. Allow yourself to experience the natural flow of emotions. The harder you fight against them, the longer they take to move on. It is a cycle and it will repeat numerous times through out life. Learn to accept that and cherish the joy as it comes. Don’t dread the hard times and instead look forward to the good times. I urge you to actively seek joy each and every day. Focus on the good and let go of the bad. I know it’s easier said than done, but I assure you that if I have learned to do this, anybody can. Please ignore those that would have you give up the vocation God has hand picked for you. Many in this life have done that and many more will in the future. In the end, the struggle is worth it. Enjoy your ride through life, even with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. Please know that I know what you are going through and I speak from experience when I say it will work itself out and you will be stronger because of the things you experience. I’m proud of you for accepting God’s will even when it doesn’t necessarily always align with your own and especially when it is the harder road. You are in my prayers
Yes!
This is so encouraging, too, especially where you describe how to process and overcome negative emotions that occur about what I am asked to do sometimes.
 
I am not sure why it seems like I was asking for advice about whether or not to homeschool my children. I would not open up such a crucial parenting decision to the opinion of strangers who do not know my family. My husband and I are in accord, and he agrees with me that this is God’s will for us.

I don’t recall ever stating that homeschooling is a decidedly Catholic thing, either. It is odd how this thread has veered off in directions I did not expect.

The situation would be the same if I was not homeschooling, but instead had some other reasons for every moment of my day being accounted for, such as caring for ailing and elderly parents, running an in-home daycare for an income, taking care of special needs or chronically ill children.

FWIW, my husband is going through the same. He rises at 5, works from 6-3, comes home and teaches a subject for our school age kids, facilitates outdoor play, helps with dinner, bath, cleaning and bedtime routines. He rarely gets to sleep before 10. The only difference for him is that he doesn’t have to nurse the baby and can usually sleep through the night. I doubt anyone here would tell him to reevaluate how much he is serving his family so he could have more time for himself. No, instead the advice would be more like “strive manfully” and “lay down your life” and “die to the old self and put on the new self”. And perhaps there would be a few men with similar experiences who could attest to the fact that the old self does in fact die.

That is why I was particularly encouraged by the posts to keep going, and how to overcome, etc.

One last thought I would like to share that maybe some one might understand…I don’t even want to console myself that this too shall pass, because it will only pass when my sweet baby (babies) grows up! Then I will be regretting not squeezing every drop of joy out of these hard times. Because soon enough, my children won’t need me, and when that happens, they won’t need me! And I will cry because it is over! :o
 
FWIW, my husband is going through the same. He rises at 5, works from 6-3, comes home and teaches a subject for our school age kids, facilitates outdoor play, helps with dinner, bath, cleaning and bedtime routines. He rarely gets to sleep before 10. The only difference for him is that he doesn’t have to nurse the baby and can usually sleep through the night. I doubt anyone here would tell him to reevaluate how much he is serving his family so he could have more time for himself. No, instead the advice would be more like “strive manfully” and “lay down your life” and “die to the old self and put on the new self”. And perhaps there would be a few men with similar experiences who could attest to the fact that the old self does in fact die.
You’re assuming a lot there.

I think it would be very healthy for your husband to have hobbies that he can do by himself (although ones that he can share with the children are especially nice!).

Here are some of my husbands interests over the years:

–fencing
–amateur astronomy
–woodworking (he’s built a couple of telescopes in our garage for us and for friends)
–rock climbing
–archery
–amateur programming (he’s written a lot of apps and made a nice side income over the years)

All of these have been either things he either does with the kids or makes money from (and he’s started to be able to share programming with the big kids).

It’s very healthy and wholesome for mothers and fathers to have interests. It gives us something to share with our children and makes us better, healthier, more relaxed, more fun parents. (I wish I had hobbies other than reading and the internet to share with the kids, but my husband has enough for both of us.)

As I’ve mentioned before on CAF, one of our local priests mentioned that he is obligated to take a 5-day retreat every year.
 
Well, perhaps I am wrong then. But my husband has argued that, as he gets to do his dream job, and it comes with all kinds of perks that involve loads of fun (with his family), that he does not need or desire any other hobbies at this stage of family life. I trust his decision here.
And anyway, all of this is beside the point, and has nothing to do with my question. I keep checking the thread when I get notifications in my email, but I have found this to be a distraction for me, so I am going to have to stop checking in for the rest of today. I will check in at bedtime perhaps.
 
I am not sure why it seems like I was asking for advice about whether or not to homeschool my children. I would not open up such a crucial parenting decision to the opinion of strangers who do not know my family. My husband and I are in accord, and he agrees with me that this is God’s will for us.

I don’t recall ever stating that homeschooling is a decidedly Catholic thing, either. It is odd how this thread has veered off in directions I did not expect.

The situation would be the same if I was not homeschooling, but instead had some other reasons for every moment of my day being accounted for, such as caring for ailing and elderly parents, running an in-home daycare for an income, taking care of special needs or chronically ill children.

FWIW, my husband is going through the same. He rises at 5, works from 6-3, comes home and teaches a subject for our school age kids, facilitates outdoor play, helps with dinner, bath, cleaning and bedtime routines. He rarely gets to sleep before 10. The only difference for him is that he doesn’t have to nurse the baby and can usually sleep through the night. I doubt anyone here would tell him to reevaluate how much he is serving his family so he could have more time for himself. No, instead the advice would be more like “strive manfully” and “lay down your life” and “die to the old self and put on the new self”. And perhaps there would be a few men with similar experiences who could attest to the fact that the old self does in fact die.

That is why I was particularly encouraged by the posts to keep going, and how to overcome, etc.

One last thought I would like to share that maybe some one might understand…I don’t even want to console myself that this too shall pass, because it will only pass when my sweet baby (babies) grows up! Then I will be regretting not squeezing every drop of joy out of these hard times. Because soon enough, my children won’t need me, and when that happens, they won’t need me! And I will cry because it is over! :o
Your children will always need you.
People are talking about homeschool because obviously it is draining you tot he point of exhaustion.
We can only go by what YOU say. You say you can’t handle it. One can’t the same thing over and over and expect different results.
No one is questioning your love for your children, your holiness, you commitment. that’s all you being defensive.
You asked how to be less exhausted.
Doing less homeschooling all alone does not equate to abandoning the kids.
Again, you posted rather desperate. Now everything is just swell.
Find joy in everything.
 
I understand and know right where you are. I am there 99% of the time.

I love my family and want to serve them joyfully. I want my household to run smoothly and be well-organized. I want us to be able to squeeze every moment out of every day and enjoy every single second of it. I don’t want a life of regrets. But what I want does not equate to reality most of the time.

In reality, the more I keep striving for the “ideal” or this vision of how my life should look, the more pressure and stress I put on myself and I find myself shutting down and wanting to retreat from life by noon every day. Then I feel selfish for needing down time and then comes the guilt. The cycle repeats itself every day.

It’s okay to need “me time” frequently. Don’t feel bad about that. You aren’t being selfish for feeling that way. Remember, there is a reason that the airline attendant instructs passengers to put on their own breathing mask before helping someone else with theirs.
 
I understand and know right where you are. I am there 99% of the time.

I love my family and want to serve them joyfully. I want my household to run smoothly and be well-organized. I want us to be able to squeeze every moment out of every day and enjoy every single second of it. I don’t want a life of regrets. But what I want does not equate to reality most of the time.

In reality, the more I keep striving for the “ideal” or this vision of how my life should look, the more pressure and stress I put on myself and I find myself shutting down and wanting to retreat from life by noon every day. Then I feel selfish for needing down time and then comes the guilt. The cycle repeats itself every day.

It’s okay to need “me time” frequently. Don’t feel bad about that. You aren’t being selfish for feeling that way. Remember, there is a reason that the airline attendant instructs passengers to put on their own breathing mask before helping someone else with theirs.
Right.

Bear in mind that this new homeschool ideal is one that has previously never existed pretty much anywhere. It is only over the past 25+ years that any substantial number of people have believed that it is physically possible for a solitary mother to have a large family, teach them all at home K-12, and do everything at home herself, with only help from children (and maybe a little from dad at night) and no breaks. In the 1950s or 1960s, the average devout Catholic mother of a large family would have thought that was nuts.
 
Right.

Bear in mind that this new homeschool ideal is one that has previously never existed pretty much anywhere. It is only over the past 25+ years that any substantial number of people have believed that it is physically possible for a solitary mother to have a large family, teach them all at home K-12, and do everything at home herself, with only help from children (and maybe a little from dad at night) and no breaks. In the 1950s or 1960s, the average devout Catholic mother of a large family would have thought that was nuts.
That is really missing the point. It is also quite a new phenomenon in many cultures for parents to send their children away starting at the age of 5 (or even much younger than that in many families) for most of their waking hours. Not long ago, even in the US, most children didn’t start full day school until age 6 or 7 and the full day was for less hours than today’s school day. But if you remember, she specifically stated that homeschooling was a joint decision made with her husband that she didn’t care to debate with online strangers. She was seeking advice on maneuvering through tough times, not seeking ways to abandon her vocation or change the way she schools her children.
 
That is really missing the point. It is also quite a new phenomenon in many cultures for parents to send their children away starting at the age of 5 (or even much younger than that in many families) for most of their waking hours. Not long ago, even in the US, most children didn’t start full day school until age 6 or 7 and the full day was for less hours than today’s school day. But if you remember, she specifically stated that homeschooling was a joint decision made with her husband that she didn’t care to debate with online strangers. She was seeking advice on maneuvering through tough times, not seeking ways to abandon her vocation or change the way she schools her children.
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What to do when you feel rebellion in your soul against the reality of your vocation?

Rethink your vocation. Meaning…if your SOUL is telling you there is something amiss…you must re-evaluate.
You must put aside thoughts of
“If I don’t do this my children will suffer and I will be a bad Catholic mother”.

You must re-evaluate. You don’t have to STOP what you are doing…but you have to re-group. Eliminate things that are not productive. Spend more time doing the things you excel at and you want to make apriority.

Don’t allow yourself to fall into the trap of thinking if you’re not super mom you’re not mom at all.
Nobody can do everything. There’s a wonderful family in our parish with 9 kids, all homeschooled, all born at home. It’s their thing you might say. Kids WELL catechized. Great people, dynamic Catholics.
But her mother-in-law does ALOT for her. She belongs to a co-op to help her with subjects she’s not the best on, and to give her children playmates outside of the family. They bring in lots of professors who volunteer to make the classes stimulating for the kids.
She’s doing everything you want to do. Her husband is involved in community theater and so are several of their children. They enjoy this together. But mom is not a solo act.
Many people come together to help. Many hands with the children. She is amazing, and rested. Her children are well-adjusted. You can do it, but don’t think for a moment that if it turns out you are exhausted and can’t cope on some things that you have FAILED.
How can a mother who loves her children and is willing to sacrifice fail?
 
That is really missing the point. It is also quite a new phenomenon in many cultures for parents to send their children away starting at the age of 5 (or even much younger than that in many families) for most of their waking hours. Not long ago, even in the US, most children didn’t start full day school until age 6 or 7 and the full day was for less hours than today’s school day. But if you remember, she specifically stated that homeschooling was a joint decision made with her husband that she didn’t care to debate with online strangers. She was seeking advice on maneuvering through tough times, not seeking ways to abandon her vocation or change the way she schools her children.
There were women in the past that homeschooled reasonably successfully.

But they tended to have servants and lots of them.

Here’s some very funny stuff from one of my favorite homeschooling bloggers, the amazing Deputy Headmistress. She’s gently roasting Charlotte Mason:

"“I find no difficulty in securing obedience from my children,” says one [letter, I think]. ….”Suppose my little boy is playing in the drawing room, I tell him, ‘you may play as long as you’re good.’ He begins to be naughty. I ring the bell; the nurse comes down and the boy goes up. He forfeits the pleasure of my company. The plan is simplicity itself.”

The Deputy Headmistress says:

“I also once had the treat of visiting the Library of Congress and looking over a few of the older PR volumes. I had very little time and chose to focus on the letters sections with questions and answers from other parents. There were several questions about schedules, also many answers. The answers all talked about getting up really early, like 7:30, and spending a couple hours in the kitchen arranging meals with the cook and going over the tasks for the day with the other help.”

Wow–7:30! Amazing!

“Children also were sometimes put to bed as early as 6:00, and yes, if I put my children to be at 6 p.m. when they were small, I could have accomplished quite a bit around the house that otherwise got only a lick and a promise.”

“The mothers of the class most involved in the PNEU simply did not raise their own children. They spent lots of time thinking about it, writing papers about it, attending meetings about it, and they really cared about it, but over and over in these volumes I am seeing this faint thread about how in ‘today’s culture’ women have so many social obligations they need well-trained, intelligent nurses to support them in their work.”

"The nurses had the bulk of the child-rearing work for children from babyhood to about five. Mom was involved- but she came and went. Nurse was always there. Nurse also had almost no other job to do except care for the children. So of course Nurse could devote the constant time to habit training that was expected.

“I don’t mean that none of CM’s ideas are applicable. They are. They just have to be taken as goals to aspire to, not bludgeons to beat ourselves over the head with.”

"But I also think this is why CM takes discipline so lightly, as something easy for the alert and clever mother to address with nothing more than a look and a shake of the head. It’s always a simpler matter to get a child to mind somebody not its parent, or not as familiar to it than it is to get a child to be consistently obedient with Mom when Mom is the only one around. It’s not the same as having Nurse, Cook, Gardener, under nursemaid, parlourmaid, second housemaid and the tweeny all
there, and all bowing to Mom’s authority.

“I also note that a lot of the distractions offered to redirect the attention involve sending the child to other adults (take a message to cook, take this package to the gardener…) Somehow I just don’t see that working for me (The crock pot wants to see you…).”
 
Right.

Bear in mind that this new homeschool ideal is one that has previously never existed pretty much anywhere. It is only over the past 25+ years that any substantial number of people have believed that it is physically possible for a solitary mother to have a large family, teach them all at home K-12, and do everything at home herself, with only help from children (and maybe a little from dad at night) and no breaks. In the 1950s or 1960s, the average devout Catholic mother of a large family would have thought that was nuts.
I don’t think it’s the homeschool ideal that is so burdensome for the OP. It’s everything else on top of that. Homeschooling is important for our family so we had to concede some areas. As I mentioned previously, my kids started a tutorial twice a week that is a “drop off” program so that I have roughly 12 hours a week to myself. Another concession is that we now have a cleaning lady come in bi-monthly.

In the past, it has been quite unusual for women, particularly those with large families, to even think they could do it all by themselves. They had help in some way, shape, or form. Even the ideal Proverbs 31 woman did 😉
 
There were women in the past that homeschooled reasonably successfully.

But they tended to have servants and lots of them.

Here’s some very funny stuff from one of my favorite homeschooling bloggers, the amazing Deputy Headmistress. She’s gently roasting Charlotte Mason:

"“I find no difficulty in securing obedience from my children,” says one [letter, I think]. ….”Suppose my little boy is playing in the drawing room, I tell him, ‘you may play as long as you’re good.’ He begins to be naughty. I ring the bell; the nurse comes down and the boy goes up. He forfeits the pleasure of my company. The plan is simplicity itself.”

The Deputy Headmistress says:

“I also once had the treat of visiting the Library of Congress and looking over a few of the older PR volumes. I had very little time and chose to focus on the letters sections with questions and answers from other parents. There were several questions about schedules, also many answers. The answers all talked about getting up really early, like 7:30, and spending a couple hours in the kitchen arranging meals with the cook and going over the tasks for the day with the other help.”

Wow–7:30! Amazing!

“Children also were sometimes put to bed as early as 6:00, and yes, if I put my children to be at 6 p.m. when they were small, I could have accomplished quite a bit around the house that otherwise got only a lick and a promise.”

“The mothers of the class most involved in the PNEU simply did not raise their own children. They spent lots of time thinking about it, writing papers about it, attending meetings about it, and they really cared about it, but over and over in these volumes I am seeing this faint thread about how in ‘today’s culture’ women have so many social obligations they need well-trained, intelligent nurses to support them in their work.”

"The nurses had the bulk of the child-rearing work for children from babyhood to about five. Mom was involved- but she came and went. Nurse was always there. Nurse also had almost no other job to do except care for the children. So of course Nurse could devote the constant time to habit training that was expected.

“I don’t mean that none of CM’s ideas are applicable. They are. They just have to be taken as goals to aspire to, not bludgeons to beat ourselves over the head with.”

"But I also think this is why CM takes discipline so lightly, as something easy for the alert and clever mother to address with nothing more than a look and a shake of the head. It’s always a simpler matter to get a child to mind somebody not its parent, or not as familiar to it than it is to get a child to be consistently obedient with Mom when Mom is the only one around. It’s not the same as having Nurse, Cook, Gardener, under nursemaid, parlourmaid, second housemaid and the tweeny all
there, and all bowing to Mom’s authority.

“I also note that a lot of the distractions offered to redirect the attention involve sending the child to other adults (take a message to cook, take this package to the gardener…) Somehow I just don’t see that working for me (The crock pot wants to see you…).”
Love it! I always say that if I had servants at my beck and call, I’d be a whole lot more joyful taking my kids on a picnic or indulging in art lessons if I didn’t have to pack their lunches or clean up the mess 🙂
 
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