"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President."

[markomalley]

Actually, you do not have to present a birth certificate to file for candidacy for President. It is utterly false that President Bush and Candidate McCain had to present a Birth Certificate. They may have chosen to present one as a matter of political theater, which is altogether fine. You have to swear to certain facts one of which being that you are a natural born citizen. This may be challenged. However, it is usually incumbant on the challenger to provide proof that a candidates sworn affidavit is somehow false. This can be as thin as presenting evidence that the candidate does not reside in the district or some such evidence. Then the registrar may request that the candidate provide proof to the contrary. In the case of a Presidential candidate, it would probably be the Secrertary of State. Not as in Hillary Clinton, but rather as in the secretary of a particular state such as Texas. The Presidents eligibility has been challenged many times and some cases have gone to the SCOTUS. They have been consistently dismissed. The “evidence” that does exist has been consistently and roundly debunked by numerous news agencies as well as by Republican elected officials in the state of Hawaii. I suppose people will believe what they want to believe. I’m sure many will respond to this by attacking the main stream media or to ascribe it to a conspiracy. A conspiracy between liberals and a Republican Supreme Court, Fox News, and other elected Republicans to keep the President in office. It’s laughable.

S. Res 511. Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen (introduced by Claire Mccaskill, D-MO
There was a movement in the far left during the 2008 campaign to have McCain declared as not eligible due to natural born citizen status (he was born of an American Father and American Mother who were stationed in Panama on official duty).

FOR THE RECORD: Yes, I think Obama was born in Hawaii.
FOR THE RECORD: No, I have no idea why he just doesn’t cough the stupid thing up and be done with it. There is no good reason why he doesn’t put an end to the controversy.
FOR THE RECORD: Yes, I think it would be a good idea to have candidates file documents when they choose to run for office to prove that they meet all the eligibility requirements…and that is regardless of the office in question.

 

[John_Paul_Jones]

Let me rephrase that.

If Obama had been born in Cuba, his name would be Marco Rubio.

Nope, Obama is a muslim and Marco Rubio is a Catholic.

 

[St_Francis]

Let me try to be more clear.

You asked “how does one’s birthplace affect his or her political decisions”

My answer*:* There are requirements for being President of the United States. If he has been dishonest about meeting those requirements then he is not an honest person and I can not trust him. If he was born here he should put this to rest and simply produce the document.

I believe the above is reflective of his character and that concerns me.

You asked*: “Second,how is producing a birth certificate going to change your life”*

My Answer: The President of the United States wields power that effects my life. Among those are financial decisions and moral decisions. His healthcare decisions alone will have an enormous impact on me and my family.

In regards to people that have nothing better to do, my question to you is: Do you always spend time on posts that you feel are “Absurd” and a” waste of time”?

The issue of where he was born is a completely fabricated issue, based in the beginning on a lie, and carried on in the complete lack of any evidence.

The issues you bring up, about the effects of Obama’s actions on your family are real issues, but as long as you focus on his birthplace, you are running down a dead-end.

Imagine that you are talking with some strnager you are sitting next to in the docotr’s office. He’s an Obama fan. Now, are you going to bring up the issue for which there is no evidence, or are you going to show how Obamacare is going to negatively affect te economy, how the “savings” are mere wish lists, and how medical care is doomed to suffer?

Which way do you think would have more effect on the other person–the one he has already dismissed in his previous vote, or the one which has a lot of good evidence to back it up?

That is why all these things should be dropped, his birthplace, his alleged adoption, the fact that he keeps his past secret.

There are so many important issues to discuss, and those are what we should all focus on.

 

[irishpatrick]

S. Res 511. Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen (introduced by Claire Mccaskill, D-MO
There was a movement in the far left during the 2008 campaign to have McCain declared as not eligible due to natural born citizen status (he was born of an American Father and American Mother who were stationed in Panama on official duty).

FOR THE RECORD: Yes, I think Obama was born in Hawaii.
FOR THE RECORD: No, I have no idea why he just doesn’t cough the stupid thing up and be done with it. There is no good reason why he doesn’t put an end to the controversy.
FOR THE RECORD: Yes, I think it would be a good idea to have candidates file documents when they choose to run for office to prove that they meet all the eligibility requirements…and that is regardless of the office in question.

There is a very good reason–election season is upon us.

 

[mary_bobo]

Quite frankly, if were an American, I’d be incredibly embarrassed by this sort of thing - both from the Left and the Right. It’s certainly allowing your country to be mocked across the political spectrum on this side of the Atlantic.

We have this quaint idea that laws and the Constitution should be upheld. And the same countries who might be mocking us are, no doubt, the same ones who look to the USA to help them everytime a disaster hits their shores. We don’t ask for, nor expect, gratitude. But it would be gentlemanly to at least lay off the criticism.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

We have this quaint idea that laws and the Constitution should be upheld. And the same countries who might be mocking us are, no doubt, the same ones who look to the USA to help them everytime a disaster hits their shores. We don’t ask for, nor expect, gratitude. But it would be gentlemanly to at least lay off the criticism.

 

[tomarin]

Quite frankly, if were an American, I’d be incredibly embarrassed by this sort of thing - both from the Left and the Right. It’s certainly allowing your country to be mocked across the political spectrum on this side of the Atlantic.

I’m pretty sure your country has conspiracy theorists too.

 

[Nicea325]

Let me try to be more clear.

You asked “how does one’s birthplace affect his or her political decisions”

My answer: There are requirements for being President of the United States. If he has been dishonest about meeting those requirements then he is not an honest person and I can not trust him. If he was born here he should put this to rest and simply produce the document.

Nope! You still did answer at all. How does one’s BIRTHPLACE affect a politican’s decisions? You merely side step. Tell me how it affects one,if he or she is born overseas?

I believe the above is reflective of his character and that concerns me.

Oh much like EVERY other politican?

You asked: “Second,how is producing a birth certificate going to change your life”

My Answer: The President of the United States wields power that effects my life. Among those are financial decisions and moral decisions. His healthcare decisions alone will have an enormous impact on me and my family.

So your hopes hinge on the President’s birthcertificate? Really? As for Healthcare? Please! Republicans are not any better!

In regards to people that have nothing better to do, my question to you is: Do you always spend time on posts that you feel are “Absurd” and a” waste of time”?

Ahhh…spending time on posts that are ‘absurd’ and waste of time pales in comparison to those whining and asking for proof of a birthcertificate. Look at the bigger picture.

 

[Nicea325]

The issue of where he was born is a completely fabricated issue, based in the beginning on a lie, and carried on in the complete lack of any evidence.

The issues you bring up, about the effects of Obama’s actions on your family are real issues, but as long as you focus on his birthplace, you are running down a dead-end.

Imagine that you are talking with some strnager you are sitting next to in the docotr’s office. He’s an Obama fan. Now, are you going to bring up the issue for which there is no evidence, or are you going to show how Obamacare is going to negatively affect te economy, how the “savings” are mere wish lists, and how medical care is doomed to suffer?

Which way do you think would have more effect on the other person–the one he has already dismissed in his previous vote, or the one which has a lot of good evidence to back it up?

That is why all these things should be dropped, his birthplace, his alleged adoption, the fact that he keeps his past secret.

There are so many important issues to discuss, and those are what we should all focus on.

Amen! Focus on REAL issues,not birth certificates and so -called adoptions.What foolishness!

 

[LemonAndLime]

Consider that King George Third,'against whom we rebelled, was A German who didn’t speak English. obviously our Founding Fathers wanted to do things a little differently. We also allow our Presidents to be any religion they choose rather than having to be Anglican

They don’t have to be Anglican, they can be any religion other than Catholic.

Any religion they choose? Unlikely, I really doubt a non-Christian President is going to exist in America within the next 100 years.

 

[LemonAndLime]

We have this quaint idea that laws and the Constitution should be upheld. And the same countries who might be mocking us are, no doubt, the same ones who look to the USA to help them everytime a disaster hits their shores. We don’t ask for, nor expect, gratitude. But it would be gentlemanly to at least lay off the criticism.

Although of course the USA only answers if they are attacked or have some benefit themselves… e.g. oil in the Middle East and only “helping” in the 2nd World War after the USA was forced to as a result of Pearl Harbour. Yeah, thanks…

We’re mocking you because more than a third of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim even though he isn’t. Racial stereotypes? Lack of knowledge about even their leader? Pretty easy targets if you ask me. That’s why this whole topic is a source of humour - it just seems like a pretty ridiculous thing to attack your President for, and all part of Republican propaganda.

 

[qui_est_ce]

They don’t have to be Anglican, they can be any religion other than Catholic.

Any religion they choose? Unlikely, I really doubt a non-Christian President is going to exist in America within the next 100 years.

We have have no laws regulating the religious preference of the president.

 

[DawnInTexas]

…We’re mocking you because more than a third of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim even though he isn’t…

He stated himself that he is a Christian. When it comes to this-we take his word for it. Only God knows hearts.

We do, however, judge words and actions (By their Fruits, you will know them). Many Catholics find it hard that someone can be a christian, and support -or worse yet, promote- abortion.

We, as Catholics realize there are all kinds of christians (over 40,000 different “christian” denominations alone in our Country).

And, we see from this Forum alone-there are many different kinds of Catholics.
Christ made His Church-where Faith and Morals are dictated, and we are to be obedient.
This used to be taught. Something happened.

Be a Catholic who is Faithful to the Magisterium.
My prayer for you.

Have a Blessed Holy Thursday!
Today is the Day Our Lord Instituted Holy Communion!

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn

 

[qui_est_ce]

Any religion they choose? Unlikely, I really doubt a non-Christian President is going to exist in America within the next 100 years.

Maybe that’s because 76% of Americans self-identify as Christian, Great Britain and Wales 53% in 2011.

 

[qui_est_ce]

They don’t have to be Anglican, they can be any religion other than Catholic.

I believe the actual word used is “papist.”

 

[LemonAndLime]

We have have no laws regulating the religious preference of the president.

And since when did a law ever guarentee it will be followed?

Sure, a Muslim could be President in the USA.

But going back to my original point - can you honestly see that happening within the next 100 years?

 

[Graubo3]

That’s why this whole topic is a source of humour - it just seems like a pretty ridiculous thing to attack your President for, and all part of Republican propaganda.

Hello Lemons, Welcome to the Church. You will be in my prayers.

I find some humor in it as well. Propaganda comes in all shapes and sizes for various reasons. Some of it is true and some of it is false. Have a blessed Easter.

Title: The ‘Birthers’ Began on the Left
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Peace, Graubo

 

[qui_est_ce]

Although of course the USA only answers if they are attacked or have some benefit themselves… e.g. oil in the Middle East and only “helping” in the 2nd World War after the USA was forced to as a result of Pearl Harbour. Yeah, thanks…

What is the purpose of this post?

The US gets most of it’s oil from Canada. Europe relies heavily on the Middle East.

 

[Havard]

We’re mocking you because

There’s no such thing as a good reason to be uncharitable. :tsktsk:

 

[Bev17243]

Although of course the USA only answers if they are attacked or have some benefit themselves… e.g. oil in the Middle East and only “helping” in the 2nd World War after the USA was forced to as a result of Pearl Harbour. Yeah, thanks…

We’re mocking you because more than a third of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim even though he isn’t. Racial stereotypes? Lack of knowledge about even their leader? Pretty easy targets if you ask me. That’s why this whole topic is a source of humour - it just seems like a pretty ridiculous thing to attack your President for, and all part of Republican propaganda.

perhaps you would like to present “evidence” that shows that he is not a Muslim. Him attending Rev Wright, hateful, anti-American church doesn’t make him a Christian. However, him being born to a Muslim father, and attending a school in a Muslim country where he was registered a Muslim, does count as evidence. Him blatanly favoriting Islamic causes and selecting Muslim individuals to surround him also qualifies, as well as him bowing down to the Islamic rulers as if he was their subject and not the President of United States. Him stating that US is not a Christian country also makes a very clear statement about who HE is. .So please don’t tell us that its all “racial stereotypes”-most people don’t care what race he is but WHAT he is. Perhaps you should adress your country’s issues which are numerous before you start bashing America.