'White Europe': 60,000 nationalists march on Poland's independence day

[niceatheist]

I’ll ask again:

WHAT race is ISLAM?

And you’ll note I used the term “bigotry”. But in general, when someone is railing against Muslims, it’s pretty normally Middle Easterners and Central Asians they’re thinking of.

 

[SuperLuigi]

The Soros empire isn’t sustainable. It’s based on Western liberalism, and I don’t think Soros cares. He doesn’t have much time left and is emblematic of the secular left in the First World who just wants to enjoy prosperity while the sun sets on it.

 

[Arkansan]

Here we see a combination of psychoanalyzing a debate opponent, and pontificating (by an atheist) on how Christians should see things.

 

[SuperLuigi]

That garbage heap commentary was all about how I posted a 6-point memo noting a reversal of what was going on in Europe right now and how different the reactions would. Everything I’ve posted has already happened in Europe at least once. He just saw it as a means in to start crying about racism because the word “Islam” was mentioned It’s nothing new or special, and I’ve seen Western leftists use that tactic before.

It really is too bad because refugee women, mostly Muslims I would say, are suffering the most. We’re seeing rape, sexual assault, child brides, incest, medical problems from incest costing the EU billions and FGM.

 

[dvdjs]

and pontificating (by an atheist) on how Christians should see things.

Not how a Christian should see things, but what hte Catholic church teaches about things. The CC does not make a secret of its teachings; anyone can understand and relate them…

 

[Arkansan]

Which makes it even more implausible for him to claim that concern for one’s ethnic group (or another ethnic group, as I’m not Polish and I don’t think Super is either) is contrary to its teachings.

 

[dvdjs]

Which makes it even more implausible

Huh? ,

 

[Arkansan]

That the Church has clear teachings makes niceatheist’s false claims about them even less tenable than if we had not specified that he was speaking of the Catholic Church.

 

[Regular_Atheist]

Tell me again, what race is Islam?

What race are the majority of Muslims, and what race are the majority of immigrants that people get upset about?

I can’t comment on you, but it’s disingenuous to pretend that a lot of opposition to Islam and immigration isn’t based on race. Particularly now, when a lot of opposition to those two things is bound up with concepts such as “white genocide” or the more politically correct “demographic displacement.”

 

[SuperLuigi]

1. Some Muslims are bad people and a lot of Muslims are responsible for criminal activity in Europe against refugees and citizens alike.
2. The current EU refugee policy will aid in the final destruction of secularism in dying Europe. The same thing is happening in Canada, I might add.
3. There is no “special kind of bigotry with elements of racism embedded in it”.
4. It sounds like the basis for your comments is for the purpose of impressing your Muslim friends in London run by a man who may in fact wish for sharia there one day.
5. Your implied false accusations of racism will not slow me down and will not alter my commentary.
6. Being a socialist is contrary to the Catholic Faith. Those who are Catholic and socialist should reflect before receiving Communion and seek Confession.

 

[niceatheist]

1. It sounds like the basis for your comments is for the purpose of impressing your Muslim friends in London run by a man who may in fact wish for sharia there one day.

Do you have any evidence of this at all? This sounds disturbingly like violating the Commandment against bearing false witness. Ah, but you’re so darned clever, you say “may in fact”, as opposed to “will”. Another example of how bigotry is so carefully couched in qualifiers.

 

[dvdjs]

Another example of how bigotry is so carefully couched in qualifiers.

But there was no qualification on this:

It sounds like the basis for your comments is for the purpose of impressing your Muslim friends in London

Not sure why people are so strongly inclined toward making up motives of their interlocutors to impugn them personally, rather than challenging facts or arguments

 

[Regular_Atheist]

Some Muslims are bad people and a lot of Muslims are responsible for criminal activity in Europe against refugees and citizens alike.

This is true. Nobody should deny that immigration is problematic. The thing I take issue with is how uncritical right-wingers tend to be in their analysis of it, which doesn’t go beyond “immigration is bad.” When over half the world is left in destitution and crisis by international capital then it might be worth trying to consider why these immigrants are leaving their home countries. There is a civil war in Libya right now, and many refugees are falling into Italy as a result - what happened in Libya for this to be the situation?

 

[dvdjs]

Human Race.
That may be de fide.

 

[SuperLuigi]

People on the right say all the time say they want LEGAL immigration. The left chooses not to hear it because it doesn’t suit their agenda.

Make sure you tell that to the Incas.

Why? It makes perfect sense.

At this point, I’m also going to have to point out to you that relationships and friendships are a 2-way street. I don’t see Muslims defending Catholicism or socialism on Muslim boards. Seems to me, Jharek, that you’re on a one-way street just like the ordinary EU-virtue signaler.

Too bad someone from Irish Unionist isn’t mayor of London.

As I said earlier in my 6 point memo, if the situations were reversed, you and the rest of the left would be screaming about how it’s colonialism, imperialism, racism, bigotry ect. ect.

Catholicism=White=European=If possible, American republican party member.

I’ll have to remember that the next I get a deportation threat or someone hurls a Latin racial slur my way…all from the tolerant left which you seem to cherish close to your heart almost, yes almost as much as you do Islam.

 

[dvdjs]

People on the right say all the time say they want LEGAL immigration

Actually they don’t say this all the time. Many talk against immigration, and even H1B visas.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Closer to the truth than you think in tidy ol’ Britain.

Have fun policing those mean words on twitter while foreign-led grooming gangs assault underage girls. But we know, Jharek. It’s fine if they have the right skin colour and religion. Double effect of being PC towards Islam and allowing so-called gay “marriage”.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Oh, I see. Simply talking about Islamic immigration in the EU automatically makes me some kind of defender of the white man.

Good for you. But since you have the PC opinions and kiss-up to Islam, they’ll spare you the slurs for now.

But notice your hypocrisy: “race is a social construct” vs “You’re defending the white man!! WAHHHH!!!”

 

[SuperLuigi]

Then you have no credibility. Also, you don’t even understand my worldview at all. All you have been reduced to is shouting white supremacy.

What am I to make of Europeans (and their refugees) on welfare who trash talk Donald Trump then?

Yes, yes we know…everyone who disagrees with your decaying EU project must be pushing a white supremacist agenda.

 

[niceatheist]

Then you have no credibility. Also, you don’t even understand my worldview at all. All you have been reduced to is shouting white supremacy.

The fact that, with the very minimum of obtuseness, accuse of Sadiq Khan of wanting to impose Sharia, says a great deal about your world view. At the very least, you’re anti-Muslim, but it’s easy enough to decrypt your coded signals to show that you certainly seem to sit in the white nationalist camp, regardless of what minority group you may claim to belong to.