Who do you think will be the next pope?

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Wouldn’t mind seeing it be Cardinal Sarah. (Incidentally, the world would soon learn that it’s pronounced “suh-RAH”, like the wine or an Italian evening, not the girl’s name.) Safe choice, respectful nod to the African people.

Either Vigano or Bishop Athanasius Schneider would have me out in the driveway pumping my fist in the air, doing a happy dance, and yelling “YEE-HAAAAH!” just like I did when Ratzinger was elected. I gave myself an earache that lasted several days. No joke! It really happened. My "ex-"wife can attest to it, because she was there and she heard me.

I was a bit more restrained about Papa Francisco.
 
Cardinal Sarah is not a trad at all. A conservative yes, but if you think he’s a trad I suggest you go to a trad mass and get to know traditionalists at first hand.

Marx hasn’t a hope. . . . His theology of the sacraments and the priesthood is essentially protestant. He has no respect for Pope Francis who told him to back off in no uncertain terms.
 
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mr_silly said:
I have heard that St. Peter will return in the Last Days to lead the Church, but the only source that i have is that this is an ancient Christian tradition
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What ancient tradition would that be? There is no ancient tradition that believes in reincarnation nor that St. Peter will rise from the dead long before the last judgment to become the pope again in either Orthodox or Catholic tradition.

Is that part of the Unitarian belief system and tradition?
 
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mr_silly:
The information that i have indicates that the next Pope will be the last and will be St. Peter.
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That is from the false prophecies of St Malachy.
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I agree…but if it happens?

Whoa boy…that would be wierd…
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St Peter has been gone and buried nearly 2000 years. Since we don’t believe in reincarnation, and there is no Pope needed in heaven, this is literally impossible.
 
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CathBoy1 said:
Great Quote.

As a piece of fiction I quite liked The Young Pope, Jude Law played a super conservative Pope and while there was nudity in the run of the season, it didn’t depict anything really bad about the titular “young pope”, again it was pretty good as a work of fiction.

The New Pope (follow up season) was complete garbage that should be avoided at all costs.
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Super conservative in some.ways but very modern in others (love his very American obsession with his favourite soda)

And agree about The New Pope, although it did convince me that John Makovich could really make even a reading of.the phone directory seem compelling.
 
Jbrady said:
Cardinal Reinhard Marx is who my money is on. He’s one of the few cardinals that have real proven leadership experience, wheras most of the rest are more like followers. He also has a grand vision for the future of the Church that appeals to those cardinals appointed by Pope Francis, who are now in the clear majority.
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Would that make the Catholic Church… Marxist? 😂
 
LilyM said:
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BlueMaxx:
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mr_silly:
The information that i have indicates that the next Pope will be the last and will be St. Peter.
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That is from the false prophecies of St Malachy.
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I agree…but if it happens?

Whoa boy…that would be wierd…
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St Peter has been gone and buried nearly 2000 years. Since we don’t believe in reincarnation, and there is no Pope needed in heaven, this is literally impossible.
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Ummm…levity…it is ok to laugh at absurdity on occasion…
 
Some speculation on a far higher level than anyone here puts odds in favor of a Pope from Africa. Currently, the Church is seeing near explosive growth there as against just about anywhere else.

And there is some likelihood is that we may find the next time we have a younger Pope as time, at least to some, implies stability.
 
The question for the cardinal electors will be basically what do they feel the Church needs at this time? When JPII was elected it was somebody youthful who could implement the council’s reforms. With Benedict, it was stability and continuity as well as a short papacy after JPII’s marathon stint. With Francis, it was somebody who could reach out to the world - the new evangelization. Beyond this, any serious contender needs to have leadership experiences, either in the senior ranks of the curia or heading a largish diocese or possibly an order.

What will be interesting at the next conclave is the diversity of the Cardinal electors. Some might make much of the number appointed by Francis but he himself was of course elected by JPII/Benedict appointed electors.

There are (at the time of writing) 122 electors, of which six will age out in the next 12 months and a further six 12 months after that and it’s safe to rule out a consistory happening this year. No non-Cardinal has been elected since 1378 and while, Francis’ election did being with it a number of firsts, there are good reasons why the election of a non-cardinal can realistically be ruled out - first, a lack of awareness of who are they are amongst the voting cardinals (Schneider may feature prominently on the pages of LifeSiteNews but I’m guessing Cardinal Mafi of Tonga for one isn’t all that familiar with him). Secondly, there’s the logistical problem of contacting them to get their assent to the election and arranging for them to be brought to the conclave without breaching secrecy.

When it comes to age, Clement X was the oldest at 79 and realistically that’s probably the upper limit although I think there’s an unwritten rule that anyone who’s retired from their position (as a bishop or head of a vatican office) isn’t considered papabille. At the other end of the scale, JPII was 58 but the election of a quinquagenarian (thanks Google) isn’t something we’re ever likely to see again. Admittedly, with Benedict breaking the retirement taboo, younger Popes may be more of a possibility - just not JPII young! So I’d probably say that between 65-75 is the most likely age. Old enough to be experienced but young enough to last!
 
Rome correspondent Edward Pentin had a book published recently (The Next Pope. The Leading Cardinal Candidates) on the most likely candidates to succeed Pope Francis. I haven’t read the book, but I believe he wrote up detailed profiles of about 18 cardinals whom he shortlisted as the most likely next Pope.

If anyone is interested, I’ll see if there is a way to find out who those candidates were without having to buy the book.
 
Is it already available somewhere? Amazon says next month.
It might be interesting to get that and see how it holds up.
 
Already available to purchase on Amazon in Europe. It might be out a little later in the US.
 
I often wonder about the cardinals and bishops who have been elevated by each Pontiff.

Pope St. John Paul the Great seemed to promote anyone who deserved it, without concern for whether they were theologically conservative, liberal, agreed with him, or not. A great diversity was achieved and maintained during his reign.

Pope Benedict XVI seemed to start out the same way, but after a while he switched to elevating those men who… agreed with him in most ways. Perhaps to the detriment of those who did not. This probably did not win him any good will from those who were passed over.

Pope Francis seemed to me, right out of the gate, to be elevating his friends and allies only. While Benedict seemed to avoid any direct snubs, we have seen things now like the denial of the cardinalate to the Archbishops of Philadelphia, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and the bestowal thereof on clerics in “the peripheries” from places we have never heard of, speaking to the diversity mentioned by @InThePew.

The next conclave will surely be a most interesting one. The legacy of Pope St. John Paul the Great is waning, though I still count 16 Cardinal-Electors he elevated. Benedict had 8 years of consistories and Francis is up-and-coming with 7 years of them. The election would surely be unprecedented.
 
Thanks. I may go for the kindle edition, the paperback’s a bit pricey. Amazon here says Aug. 4., not that far away.
 
Maximian said:
Cardinal Sarah is not a trad at all. A conservative yes, but if you think he’s a trad I suggest you go to a trad mass and get to know traditionalists at first hand.
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Too much to hope for, to have a traditionalist pope (as that adjective is commonly understood in the Catholic Church in the year 2020). But at least Cardinal Sarah would (one hopes and expects) be traditionalist-friendly, as was Benedict and, so far, Francis.

If extending basically full faculties to the SSPX isn’t traditionalist-friendly, I don’t know what is.
 
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