Who, What, When, Where, Why Your Religion?

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flameburns623:
Orthodox are Catholics. And Anglicans are ‘catholic’ with a small ‘c’, at least in many cases. And the word ‘religion’ is employed in a neutral sense in only one passage of Scripture, in James. In all other cases it is referred to disparagingly and contrasted with the true worship of God.
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No, you are very wrong. "C"atholics only include those in communion with Rome. That includes the Latin Rite and the Byzantine Rite an Merinites and the other rites of the Catholic Church.

The EO is not in communion with Rome. They reject the authority of the pope and consequently are not part of the church. They are called the Orthodox, not Catholic.
 
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ahimsaman72:
Hello BlessedBe13

I used to solve my problems by drinking heavily and I also used alcohol to have fun. However, it led me down a road which led to frustration and confusion.

Please re-consider your use of alcohol. I only say so to help you avoid suffering in your life. It has destroyed so many lives and continues to destroy lives today.
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Thank you for your advice. I will keep it in mind.
 
Led Zeppelin75:
PART 2 OF 2

If you are a Mormon (Latter-day Saints), Joseph Smith started your church in Palmyra, N.Y. in 1830.

If you are an agnostic, you profess an uncertainty or a skepticism about the existence of God.

If you are an atheist, you do not believe in the existence of God.

–End of Article–
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Very entertaining, however very insulting. The Roman Catholic church is NOT the church founded by jesus. Jesus didn’t found any church, his diciples did. Until about AD 300 "catholic (lower-case “c”) was used to describe the universal body of Christians. Then a cult called Roman Catholic (upper-case "C’) was founded.

“”""If you are an atheist, you do not believe in the existence of God.

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They always save the best, and true, “religion” for last! http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
Then why does it say in Matt 16? ?Simon you are Peter(Rock is the meaning in Greek), and upon this Rock, I will build my church."? It sounds like Jesus founded a church.
 
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jimmy:
Very entertaining, however very insulting. The Roman Catholic church is NOT the church founded by jesus. Jesus didn’t found any church, his diciples did. Until about AD 300 "catholic (lower-case “c”) was used to describe the universal body of Christians. Then a cult called Roman Catholic (upper-case "C’) was founded.

“”""If you are an atheist, you do not believe in the existence of God.

–End of Article""""

They always save the best, and true, “religion” for last! http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
Although Christianity obviously began with the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, we are really an extension/continuation/fulfillment of Judaism in that sense couldn’t one say that Christianity has really existed since the beginning of time itself?

Peace,

Cubby
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Led Zeppelin75:
PART 2 OF 2

Very entertaining, however very insulting. The Roman Catholic church is NOT the church founded by jesus. Jesus didn’t found any church, his diciples did. Until about AD 300 "catholic (lower-case “c”) was used to describe the universal body of Christians. Then a cult called Roman Catholic (upper-case "C’) was founded.

So, now the Catholics are a cult? Well, we’ve been called the whore of Babylon, the antichrist, the dragon with 7 heads, idol worshippers, and much more, so being called a cult just another ignorant nasty insult directed against my Church.

The true fact is that when Jesus named Peter and called him “the Rock”, he was founding His Church, the Catholic Church. If you call that a “cult”, then I’m blessed to be in Jesus’ cult.

Matthew 16:18
You are Peter, the Rock and upon this Rock, I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

John 6:53
Let me assure you that if you do not eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink His Blood, you will have no life in you.

God bless you,
Shannin
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Tmaque:
I could look you in the eye and tell you of miracles I have seen personally. But you wouldn’t believe me. Your cynicism clouds everything. There ARE things in the universe that we cannot see with our eyes. You’re like a deaf man that tries to tell a hearing man that what he hears is all in his imagination. I’m sad for you. Miracles DO happen, I’ve witnessed them. I’ve seen things that prove the existence of the supernatural. God does exist. He exists whether you believe it or not. He loves you whether you believe it or not.
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Maybe you didn’t read this link:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2865009.stm

With that said there is no proof for the existance of god. None. There are things we “can’t” see, but can find out with mathamatical equations. If you look past all this brainwashed religious folly, you’ll realize it’s nothing more than childish myth. Read up on pagan miracles, they happen. People just like you claim they’ve seen them, but why don’t you look at the link.
 
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shannin:
So, now the Catholics are a cult? Well, we’ve been called the whore of Babylon, the antichrist, the dragon with 7 heads, idol worshippers, and much more, so being called a cult just another ignorant nasty insult directed against my Church.

The true fact is that when Jesus named Peter and called him “the Rock”, he was founding His Church, the Catholic Church. If you call that a “cult”, then I’m blessed to be in Jesus’ cult.

Matthew 16:18
You are Peter, the Rock and upon this Rock, I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

John 6:53
Let me assure you that if you do not eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink His Blood, you will have no life in you.

God bless you,
Shannin
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Every religion that has ever existed is properly called a “cult”. It’s been fraimed to be used for a negitive image of a religion, but that’s ignorance of the proper definition. Matthew 16, 18 tells me NOTHING. 1) The bible is not credible 2) everything can be easily misintrepreted. As for John 6, 53, I say simply contridictoy. A couple verses before it (i think it is john 6, 47) Jesus says “everyone who believes will be saved”, then it says “if you don’t drink the blood… you will not be saved”, which contridicts itself. What if you believe but never drink or eat his body?
 
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Cubby:
Although Christianity obviously began with the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, we are really an extension/continuation/fulfillment of Judaism in that sense couldn’t one say that Christianity has really existed since the beginning of time itself?

Peace,

Cubby
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That part of my post was actually part of the quote from Led.

I would agree though that it is the same church that was around before Christ.
 
Led Zeppelin75:
Every religion that has ever existed is properly called a “cult”. It’s been fraimed to be used for a negitive image of a religion, but that’s ignorance of the proper definition. Matthew 16, 18 tells me NOTHING. 1) The bible is not credible 2) everything can be easily misintrepreted. As for John 6, 53, I say simply contridictoy. A couple verses before it (i think it is john 6, 47) Jesus says “everyone who believes will be saved”, then it says “if you don’t drink the blood… you will not be saved”, which contridicts itself. What if you believe but never drink or eat his body?
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You really need to quit posting like this with all the ignorance, you are giving me a bad image of one of my favorite bands.
 
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BlessedBe13:
Thank you for your advice. I will keep it in mind.
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BlessedBe13,

I wish you only happiness and peace and joy. I speak from the heart when I admonish you to re-think the situation the next time you feel like drinking or getting drunk. I don’t say it to belittle you in any way. From seeing some of your other posts, I can tell you are smart - it’s just a matter of one seeking to help another have a fulfilling life.

Blessings to you…
 
  1. Sex before marriage can cause considerable challenges,ie. pregnancy, sometimes abortion, disease. This usually occurs as someone not ready to take on any of these challenges and so their freedom turns into having to rely on the government, family, other people, health care…to help them out of their tight spots.
No, sex before marrage IS NATURAL. And it won’t cause pregancy if you use proper control. Both of which the church forbids.

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2. Use of birth control cause a chemical dependency. YOu depend on this chemical to keep you safe from the aforementioned. Unless it is for serious health reasons, birth control only adds more frustration as you must take it same time, everyday…there is no freedom in that. I admit though, I have yet to decide my stance on other forms of contraceptives."

Sounds liek a brainwashed catholic response, it allows sex w/ out pregancy. What "dependable about that?
  1. One does not have to be part of a religion to have a view on abortion or gay marriage. Sure, your view may be slanted, but other “athiests” such as yourself, could easily disagree with both. That doesn’t mean their religion chose this view for them"
Well I happen to agree with both. And while I was a catholic the only reson I disagreed is because the church stated it was a mortal sin to agree with any of them
  1. Masturbation, in my opinion is useless. I’d rather be with my husband then myself. I think it’s much healthier to have a good sex life with my husband then a mediochre sex life with myself. That is just my opinion because I have no more views on masturbation (not much of an argument ).
Masturbation is, again, NATURAL. It can lead to a happier life, ALL experts agree with this
  1. Freedom of thought…you can think whatever you very well want to whether you are established in a religion or not. It’s when you act on thought that is the problem.
Uh, no. I’m not allowed to think pro-chioce thoughts as a catholc am I?
  1. Freedom of speech…No one has complete freedom of speech, not even you. YOu couldn’t go on an airplane and yell BOMB. Religion does not limit your freedom of speech at all. If you sincerely believe something, you can express it however you choose. For example, one believes in abortion and another doesn’t. Each has equal opportunity and right to say what they feel about abortion. Religion does not limit this if you seriously believe what you are saying. You argument may work if every person in every religion was forced to speak the religions beliefs and nothing else if they don’t beleive it, however, that doesn’t occur (that I know of).
whatever you say I could’ve sworn saying things contrary to god, was a sin
 
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  1. Science and history is not affected by religious beliefs. Just because I am a christian now doesn’t mean I will suddenly deny the heinous wars and crimes that the church did. That would be denying fact and would be rather stupid. Views on history depend on what textbooks you read, not whether you read the bible or not. Science…ahhh, science. I’m a 2nd year biotechnology student. I am a huge believer in science. You can believe in both science and religion because it’s working fine for me. I’ve always been a scientist and yes, I believe in evolution as well as creationism. I’m not going to go into depth about my theory, it’s too long, but PM if you really want to know. Religion can shape your views on science minimally, but that doesn’t mean that someone who believes in creationism is wrong. I know a guy who believes aliens populated earth as a science experiment, doesn’t mean he’s wrong because it isn’t proven. Weird, yes, but not wrong yet either.
Well, you’re in a minority: theist scientists
  1. Where does lust get you? What benefits are there in lusting over a person/object? When you get the object of your desire, does it make you anymore satisfied? No…not really, it’s a vicious cycle. I feel that when someone lusts for something, they are not appreciating the life they already have.
Same as masturbation… NATURAL thing and healthy
  1. Freedom to use substances is the biggest non-freedom you will ever find. It’s a complete lie. Dependency on substances is more accurate. Take it from me, a drug addict for 9 years, i started when I was 12, there is nothing free about it. I’m still struggling with my dependency, it’s rough. I feel more chained down then I ever have before because everything I do depends on whether I can get high or not (not necessarily now, but a few months ago, yes). I don’t buy this argument for a second. If it was a freedom, i would gladly give up that right if I could now, it’s too late for that.
Believe what you want to about drugs, religion still limits those freedoms. They’re not dangerous if used properly.
  1. You use your morals and values when you vote, not your religion. Your religion may be part of these morals, but your morals aren’t part of your religion.
Really? Beacuse I heard of a bishop in the states that said if you vote for kerry you commit a mortal sin.
  1. How you live your life depends on the choices you make…thats right, choices. Religion doesn’t dictate that you must live your life a certain way. It gives you guidelines and you choose whether you follow them or not.
Religion does have you do volenteer work and attend worship services…
  1. How you dress…again a choice. You can follow the guidelines or you don’t…completely up to the individual and what they are trying to portray with their outward appearence.
Religion would still limit the freedom of expression: expressing things contrary to them, ect…

Now can you see things like I see them?
 
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BlessedBe13:
I would also like to know how those things mess up a persons life? Granted, there need to be some moral laws and guidelines, but for example, I use birth control. It hasn’t messed up my life at all.

In regards to the original post - I am Wiccan. I choose to follow an non-Catholic religion because I do not believe in a lot of what is taught be Catholicism.
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Do you have any good Wiccan links? I’ve been interseted in this.
 
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ahimsaman72:
BlessedBe13,

I wish you only happiness and peace and joy. I speak from the heart when I admonish you to re-think the situation the next time you feel like drinking or getting drunk. I don’t say it to belittle you in any way. From seeing some of your other posts, I can tell you are smart - it’s just a matter of one seeking to help another have a fulfilling life.
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Once again, thank you for your kind words and consideration. I will keep your advice in mind the next time I think about drinking.
 
Led Zeppelin75:
Do you have any good Wiccan links? I’ve been interseted in this.
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One of the best I have seen is: “The Celtic Connection” at wicca.com. It has a lot of great information and links to other good sites.

The forums on there are also excellant - I particpate in those as well. The people there are always happy to answer any questions and people of all faiths are welcome and particpate - there are several athiests and Christians who actively particpate there as well as buddhists, various pagans, jews, etc.
 
Led Zeppelin75:
Religion does have you do volenteer work and attend worship services…
  1. How you dress…again a choice. You can follow the guidelines or you don’t…completely up to the individual and what they are trying to portray with their outward appearence.
Religion would still limit the freedom of expression: expressing things contrary to them, ect…
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I’m assuming that you are speaking primarily of Christian religions when you refer to “religion”? I only included these paragraphs, but a lot of the other places you mentioned “religion” where it applied more to Christian religion rather than all religions.

I am not required to do volunteer work. It is not discouraged, but it is not a requirement either. I am not required to attend worship services either. I practice solitary and hold private worship services, but I am not required to worship in a certain way.

The dress code thing does not apply to me either. My religion believes in respecting ones body, so dressing in a way that could be harmful may be considered inappropriate, but there is no dress code and no “sinfulness” in dressing a certain way - although dressing in a way contrary to one’s beliefs may be considered hypocritical - religious or not.
 
Blessedbe, Christianity has the ten commandments to live by. What commandments do wiccans follow? Im now in therapy. 😃
 
Led Zeppelin75:
With that said there is no proof for the existance of god. None. There are things we “can’t” see, but can find out with mathamatical equations. If you look past all this brainwashed religious folly, you’ll realize it’s nothing more than childish myth. Read up on pagan miracles, they happen. People just like you claim they’ve seen them, but why don’t you look at the link.
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Hey Zep,
Maybe you should read this:

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=315976

Best wishes,
Paul
 
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