Who will you be supporting in the U.S. presidential election with our Catholic values in mind?

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JSRG:
he Democrats didn’t have enough votes to pass it.
The had enough Democrats to pass it, just not enough votes.
Huh? I just explained how they didn’t. If we count Bernie Sanders as a Democrat (and I do), if every Democrat voted yes, they would fall short of the required 60 votes, as there were only 59 Democrats in the Senate. Because there weren’t enough Democrats to pass it, they had to enlist the help of an Independent, which required them to jettison the very concepts you claim there were enough Democrats to pass. There weren’t enough Democrats to break the filibuster.

I don’t understand what you’re saying here at all. It doesn’t make sense.
 
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I cannot vote but I support Donald Trump. The Dems are off the deep end. And by the way, Welfare and free junk from big government doesn’t align with our faith’s social teaching.
 
Love Tulsi. Yang as well. Could never vote for either of them because of their stances on abortion…:cry:
 
Love Tulsi. Yang as well. Could never vote for either of them because of their stances on abortion…:cry:
I was supporting Tulsi a bit for like a week, and then she kind of started to “bow down” to the liberal establishment. And Yang doesn’t really understand how economics work. $1000 for everyone per month is socialism.
 
I haven’t really been following her very closely. Like I said, her stance on abortion precludes me from voting for her.

So Yang’s whole UBI thing may be the most boneheaded idea ever but at least he’s thinking. He is the only candidate (to my knowledge) who has attempted to address the disastrous effects that AI and automation will have on millions of Americans. He probably knows that even if he wins (which he won’t), UBI would never actually be included in any spending bill. He is rightly calling attention to a problem that everyone else seems to be ignoring.

All that being said, I would never vote for him either because…abortion.
 
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Per the OP, Tulsi Gabbard is who I will vote for if she is on the ballot. I’m sick of this partisanship dung on both sides. She is the only candidate that resembles a Statesman in any way.

If she’s not on the ballot I probably won’t even vote.

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From the CCC:
[2240] Submission to authority and co-responsibility for the common good make it morally obligatory to pay taxes, to exercise the right to vote, and to defend one’s country
 
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UrbanCCCXXIV:
I cannot vote but I support Donald Trump. The Dems are off the deep end. And by the way, Welfare and free junk from big government doesn’t align with our faith’s social teaching.
Why not?

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People should help each other, not rely on a big government handout. That’s socialism. And socialism has killed more than 100 million people (a lot Christians) in a century. Jesus said help your neighbor. Not “rely on a government to steal 1/3 of your income for crappy services”. Theft is illegal. Also, the Democrats want to restrict our 2nd amendment. Remember “H**l yes we’re gonna take your AR-15”? That one statement sealed the deal for me with the Democrats.
 
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I haven’t really been following her very closely. Like I said, her stance on abortion precludes me from voting for her.

So Yang’s whole UBI thing may be the most boneheaded idea ever but at least he’s thinking. He is the only candidate (to my knowledge) who has attempted to address the disastrous effects that AI and automation will have on millions of Americans. He probably knows that even if he wins (which he won’t), UBI would never actually be included in any spending bill. He is rightly calling attention to a problem that everyone else seems to be ignoring.

All that being said, I would never vote for him either because…abortion.
The AI thing is actually a problem going into the future. Definitely should be addressed in the next decade or two.
 
It was lethal aid, unlike with Obama who only sent non-lethal aid. He certainly had authority to spend the aid within the deadline, which he did. Ukrainians can now kill Russian tanks, which they couldn’t until Trump sent tank-killer missiles.
Javelin missiles, tank busters and by the way, it’s a horrible war over there, we have advisors there and, sad as it is, there are snipers over there but it does sound like the Ukrainian side does inflict damage on the Rebels.
His sanctions against Russia surpass Obama’s. He has sent lethal aid to Ukraine with which to kill Russians. Do you want him to declare war on Russia? Is nuking Russia your requirement?

North Korea’s sanctions are also unprecedented. He has not caved in like Bush and Obama and Clinton did to NoKo empty promises.

Do you want Trump to request that NATO eject Turkey? Do you know how the vote will go on that?
Good questions.

A google search will show everyone, there is no “mechanism” to eject a Nato partner, they did not think of this back in 1948 (or whenever Nato was formed, post WWII).

One can find some articles extremely untoward towards previous presidents and North Korea, those articles in fact, in some cases, indicate we helped them build up their nuclear program…one article said Bush did but there are also articles on other presidents, I would urge one to read for themselves. We kind of bought off NK in the past it sounds like.

And Iran, Iran experts (even check twitter) says that when Iran got all that money from the Iran nuke deal and someone here said that was there money to begin with, fine… wherever that money came from, most experts will say they poured it into their proxy wars and foreign ventures in Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and wherever else, Syria of course, too.
 
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UrbanCCCXXIV:
Also, the Democrats want to restrict our 2nd amendment. Remember “H**l yes we’re gonna take your AR-15”? That one statement sealed the deal for me with the Democrats.
What does this have to do with Catholicism?
Our right to arm ourselves is God given and the restriction of the Constitution is one of the largest issues to me.
 
What do you see as a solution? UBI will never become a reality but what can we do?

I’m honestly asking because I’m at a total loss.
 
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Also, the Democrats want to restrict our 2nd amendment. Remember “H**l yes we’re gonna take your AR-15”? That one statement sealed the deal for me with the Democrats.
What does this have to do with Catholicism?
Our right to arm ourselves is God given and the restriction of the Constitution is one of the largest issues to me.
I don’t doubt the second half of your response. It’s the first half that seems a serious stretch to me re: firearms.
 
And Yang doesn’t really understand how economics work. $1000 for everyone per month is socialism.
No, that is not what socialism means. If you are going to say others do not understand economics, you should at least know basic economic terms. And if you are going to say something does not align with Catholic teaching, you should know what the Church has taught.
 
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I have no way of answering questions I do not believe are grounded in reality.
Just like a response I received on Thursday, a remark like this is a bit of a backhanded insult. Do not think that this is “okay”.
 
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