There is a lot of evidence that Trump has had many affairs, including accusations of him approaching women while married, accusations of having sex by the women he had sex with, and his famous comments to Billy Bush. Now, let’s also note that abortions mostly occur outside of wedlock, so sexual relations outside of marriage are also an issue where Trump has admitted to having a very active sex life including his avoidance of VD in the 70s being his personal Viet Nam.
What is preposterous about that? The pro-life movement tied itself to Republicans and the movement hasn’t moved forward since it did. I personally blame the Jerry Falwell types.
You mean having a President that says “Grab them by the py" doesn’t suggest misogany to you. Or pardoning Sheriff Apraio who used his office to harass Hispanics. Or calling African American football playing who kneel during the national anthem "son of b**s”. That’s enough for most people and that’s why the Republican Party is thought of as the party of racism and misogany.
No, the Democrats certainly haven’t pushed for sexual morality any more so than the Republicans have. The Democrats also haven’t pushed for the killing of millions of children, so that is just another falsehood. They believe it should be legal. That’s different. But the reality is that a social (not political) movement is needed to reduce sexual practices that result in abortion and that isn’t going to happen from the political sphere.
I think I do based on Trump’s comments, and comments of women that have either been approached by him or had sex with him while he has been married. You seem to ignore all of that.
No evidence. I thought not. And even with Billy Bush, Trump never said he actually did any of those things, just that one could when it came to groupies.
The prolife people have nobody to vote for except Republicans and that one remaining prolife Democrat, Lipinski I believe is his name. The Democrat party rejected Catholics and other prolife people. It has nothing to do with Jerry Falwall. I’ll be not one in a thousand prolife Catholics even know who he is, let alone care what he thinks.
It suggests a low opinion of groupies and nothing more.
He didn’t call them that because they were black. He called them that because they disrespect this country.
It’s in your platform and your last two presidential candidates supported abortion. And you support them. So own it.
A society or portion thereof, that supports legalized murder, is corrupt to its core and can claim morality in no other way.
Still no proof at all.
16 Six things I will tell thee, and name a seventh for good measure, the Lord hates and will never abide; 17 the haughty look, the lying tongue, the hands that take innocent life, 18 the heart that ever devises thoughts of mischief, the feet that hasten upon an ill errand, 19 the false witness whose every breath is perjury, and the sower of strife among brethren.
You seriously read what I wrote and come the conclusion that there is no evidence? Wow.
No, I want to blame the real reason for abortion, which is sex outside of marriage. You want to blame Democrats, but really, it is the individuals that get abortions and the vast majority of them are a result of sexual immorality.
If you believe there is a political solution to abortion.and are a single issue voter, I agree that you should vote for pro-life Republicans. I don’t believe there is a political solution and the Church teaches us not to be single issue voters.
Just a coincidence that they were black, I’m sure. And, no, it’s not disrespect, but that’s why you don’t understand why there won’t be a political solution to abortion.
I’m not Democrat, so there is nothing for me to own.
I guess this gives you the excuse to consistently misrepresent Democratic positions and pass falsehoods that have been debunked over and over again. The Republicans have been in charge many times. Abortion is still legal. The political solution does not work.
Another falsehood about proof.
I didn’t say you did. I was responding to the initial question of, “So you won’t say whether you would vote for abortion-supporting candidates against a prolife candidate.” The question cannot be answered unless one is a single issue voter.pnewton:
No. Nor did I make that claim. What Pope Benedict said was:
One example would be to compare the likelihood of change that law versus others, which is becoming more an issue every year. Another would be the likelihood of starting an unjust war, versus how much abortion can be legitimately limited. Another is the danger to making the planet poisonous to millions. Another is actually electability, which is why one might have voted for Trump in the first place, versus a more solid pro-life candidate. So this works both ways.
You keep asking for proof, as if there is such a thing as absolute proof. If you do not believe the evidence is significant, then do not consider that in your voting. Other voters will are free to do the same, with no need to convince others. Those who are partisan cannot be convinced. Donald Trump said once he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not be prosecuted. His more ardent supporters will not believe it even if there was video. Likewise, there are many that despise him so much they will believe anything bad said about him, regardless of how outlandish.
It doesn’t, but in any event, it does isolate the reasons why a person would support one candidate over another, all other things being equal.
Too vague.
No war in this century or the last half of the last century has even come close to the death rate abortion has caused in this country alone. Not proportionate. And the Church has never declared any of them “unjust”.
It’s more than that. It’s a matter of a society countenancing, even supporting killing millions of innocents. It is almost impossible to find a society in history more unjust or corrupt than that. And we then wonder why the young do not marry or raise children and engage in all sorts of sexual perversions as if they were moral. A killer society is unlikely to accomplish anything good or moral.
Which will not happen as long as the young are taught that it’s okay to kill innocent babies. There will only be the downward spiral we have been witnessing in the last decades.
So saving lives and teaching the young that it’s wrong to kill is to be dismissed as “bumper sticker thinking”. It’s no wonder half the population thinks it’s okay to kill children and, increasingly, others who are not deemed useful.
Ah! Those awful “deplorables” and “smelly Walmart shoppers” who believe in God and employment. They’re so stupid they wouldn’t believe anything bad about Trump. They really should believe those who countenance killing children and call them names.
"Nuff said. I think these lines say it all.
Listen to the Billy Bush tape. Trump never says he did anything but kiss women himself. He only said one “could” do other things with groupies.
No it’s not. The real reasons are the decision to abort and its availability. The MAJORITY of abortions are had by married women. So do you now want to condemn all married politicians? Let’s see now, who among the recent married presidents has had only one child or two? They would be the most suspect, wouldn’t they, particularly if they support it?
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Trump said not a word about groupies. He did speak about a fried’s wife, he did speak about the female TV person meeting them. Nothing aobut groupies though. Where does this stuff get started?
Key quote in it:
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Oh, well, that certainly declares his innocence. He only kisses other women while married. Yep, totally innocent.
Oh, my goodness. Did you even read the article that you just cited?
So what? Your attack on Trump is to suggest that he has caused abortions because he had one provable affair. You claimed the real reason for abortion is sex outside marriage. That’s not true. Whether it’s true in the U.S. alone or not makes no difference. Your claim of cause/effect is simply invalid.
Umm, okay, the article you cited said that 85% of abortions in the United States are had by women that are unmarried and you are trying to claim that the real reason for abortion is sex outside of marriage is untrue. Wow. I guess in the face of overwhelming facts, you can still deny the truth.
It’s obviously untrue if the great majority of abortions worldwide are had by married women.
And we’re talking about the US in this thread. Which do you think is more relevant in discussing how to lower abortions in the US, data from the US or data from the entire world?
I’m not defending the Democratic position on abortion, and how many times do I have to tell you that!!! This is why it is simply fruitless to try and have a serious discussion with you.