Why are they still protesting? What do they want?

[TepeyacTraveler]

I agree with this 100%. A Police Officer has a very important job. If it is proven that the officer misused power, they should be stripped of the badge. This would solve a bunch of problems. We also need to figure out concrete ways to keep people from being arrest 3 times. I’m not even taking about 10, 15, and 20 times. How do we get these people the help they obviously need to become what God made them to be.

 

[petra22]

But should race or any other distinguishing human factor be the “all” in who runs the country? I mean just because a woman runs for office, should she win even if her ideas are not what the majority wants? I say NO. I’m not against women running the country if they have ideas that advance the country and keep her strong in a fierce world… But to vote for a woman just because she is a woman, or a black just because they are black or a hispanic just because… that’s not good reasoning…

 

[anendlesswaltz]

Two things, from my perspective:

1.) Just because the four officers involved have been charged doesn’t mean they will see jail time. The officers must be held accountable and face a fair trial as any normal citizen would. If that means they get off, they get off, i just want to see an attempt at a trial that doesn’t automatically accept the ‘i was afraid for my life’ type of shallow defense.

2.) Reform against police brutality is needed. A system-wide change is needed. Officers (a) need to be trained better, something i’ve seen military veterans commenting on, and (b) need to be held accountable same as anyone else if they commit a crime while on duty.

3.) I wasn’t gonna add this, but the rubber (less-lethal) bullets and tear gas and deployment of the national guard is only fueling point number 2. People are losing eyes, having miscarriages, and getting put in critical condition with brain bleeding from bullets to the head. One asthmatic woman died when they were gassed. They’re attacking people without weapons in their hands, who most of the time from what i have seen are not even being hostile, and its just making people more angry. Its hard to ignore nowadays when we record things on our phones and post them all over for the world to see. Its a concept i just can’t understand; if they have problems with looting elsewhere, why is the entire police force plus NG showing up in full riot gear around protestors who’re just marching and chanting? Instead of guarding shops?

 

[HomeschoolDad]

Also I personally think the group is disingenuous as they don’t direct their efforts to curbing crimes against blacks committed by other black people. There are thousands of black lives lost every year to these crimes. And there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of black lives lost to abortion every year as well which the group does not oppose.

It is just a fact that the vast majority of black people in this country support a political party that endorses absolute free choice on abortion. I know they do not do this because the party is pro-choice, but rather because they perceive that this party best represents their interests. They realize that if they do not look out for their interests, nobody else will do it for them. I get this. I’m not sure how they view the idea of abortion wiping out black babies who would otherwise be born.

I do know, though, that this particular presidential election and, as a side note, the Senate elections, are possibly the most important elections in the history of this republic. We need Supreme Court justices who might roll back parts of Roe v Wade. If President Trump nominates the justices, and a Republican Senate confirms them, it may happen. If a Democratic pro-choice president and a Democratic Senate get to do this instead, it absolutely will not happen. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is not in good health, and Stephen Breyer is at an age (81) by which people are normally retired. With the massive demographic changes happening in this country, I think the 2020 election may be the last election in a long time, where a pro-life Republican president will be elected. We need those Supreme Court justices as an “insurance policy”. Things are not going to get any better. We need to save all the unborn babies we can.

The other day, a local political candidate (county council) called me, asking for my vote. I let him give his spiel, then I asked him “where do you stand on a woman’s right to choose?”. I phrased it this way so that he would either be unsure of my stance, or would just assume I was pro-choice. He gave another spiel on how he was raised in church, yada yada yada, then said he accepted Roe v Wade and supported abortion choice in the first trimester. Incidentally, he was black. I thanked him, told him he said precisely what I wanted to know, and then ended the conversation. I wasn’t in the mood for fraternal correction that day, I had a lot of other things going on. It’s just too bad that unborn lives — of all races — don’t “matter” to him during the first trimester.

 

[arvo]

Just question - does the lives of poor children matter? And how the right-wind politicians provide for that? If we press ahead with no-pro-choice policy then we should ensure the economic conditions. We live in the cruel, laissez-faire world.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

Just question - does the lives of poor children matter? And how the right-wind politicians provide for that? If we press ahead with no-pro-choice policy then we should ensure the economic conditions. We live in the cruel, laissez-faire world.

No argument there. I couldn’t agree more.

It would be nice if the likes of Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and billionaire Oprah Winfrey would establish a fund to pay pregnant women not to have abortions, to bring their children to term, and to provide them with whatever support they need, for as long as they need it.

 

[ZemD]

Just to be clear by “group” I am referring to the organization “black lives matter.” I do not think all black people support this group or are a part of it. And although I agree with you about overturning Roe v Wade I am not criticizing “black lives matter” to be partisan or to draw politics into the discussion of the protests and riots.

I am criticizing them because they are behind the majority of these protests, and they do not in fact believe the lives of all black people matter. Even at the protests they are not directly organizing their organization’s name is written on signs. I’ll even go so far to say some may be using it as a slogan and not know what the group who bears that name believes and represents.

And that last sentence is precisely my point.

I wish everyone could take the time to learn about what they are representing and supporting before they jump on the hashtag bandwagon of the day. Advocating for groups just because they are popular (and have a name that sounds nice) is lazy.

 

[TULIPed]

I’m with you brother. Abortion is sinful and wrong and inexcusable.

And we can talk about ending it, or we can act about it. I haven’t adopted a black child (or any child). I’ve spent a little bit of time coaching and mentoring minority kids - but nothing close to what I’m capable of. I give some money to charities that support taking care of families in need while sharing the gospel with them - but I’m nowhere close to exercising the widow’s mite.

Of all sinners in this regard, I’m the worst. But I don’t think I’m alone. The only way we end abortion is by changing hearts. The only way we change hearts to to introduce them to Christ. The only way we do this is the way He did it - we love people and take care of them by being with them and sacrificing for them.

At the very least, I think we could start by listening to them - in person - one on one. I need to get some black friends.

 

[Adamek]

Just question - does the lives of poor children matter? And how the right-wind politicians provide for that?

And the next question would be: how do the left-wing politicians provide for that? All they have is abortion.

 

[Polak]

What do they want? Well one of the things they want In Minneapolis, is for the police force there to be completely abolished. Reasonable, right?

 

[TULIPed]

And the next question would be: how do the left-wing politicians provide for that? All they have is abortion.

The right question is, “How do you and I take care of and love these people?” Who’s your neighbor? (Jesus has a word or 2 about that - HINT: one of them rhymes with “Schmood Shmamaritan”).

 

[Adamek]

At the very least, I think we could start by listening to them - in person - one on one.

This will never be allowed, because we could actually communicate, understand each other and work on resolving some of the issues, together. The left will never allow that. You know - divide and conquer. In the case of the left it is - support segregation and racial tension - this guarantees votes for the democrat party.

 

[arvo]

These are all OLD types of leftwingers (Sanders, Biden, Corbyn in UK) - they are about redistribution and economic preservation. But there is emerging new generation of left-wing politicians like Andrew Yang who combines the solidarity with the opportunities provided with the technological developments and with the free-market system. Economic social-liberalism is the result - you get Universal Basic Income, more or less free education and healtcare but everything else - all the middle-class life and all the luxury (if you require it) you earn by the good work. Bad work is done by robots.

i love artificial intelligence and I see how much can be automated away and I am working towards it. But I am so sad that the economic system provides the roadblocks in this way.

E.g. - what happens when the factory gets automated? Currently there is little support for education, so, the people loses jobs and competes for less wages, competes against machines, competes for the less. But if machines are working and creating production, then we should be able to use this production to provide for (re)education and allow the people compete for the good, for the best and allow people to grow. And this philosophy of growths and development is the NEW left-side policy (social liberalism).

OLD type social democracy just fights against machines, just subsidizes out-dated jobs and is not at all about creativity and development.

It is more about old-style vs new-style economic left-wing policies than about anything else.

 

[TULIPed]

This will never be allowed, because we could actually communicate, understand each other and work on resolving some of the issues, together.

How about we start by having friends of another race? Forget about the politics and religion. We just drink beer, eat a burger, talk about sports, babysit kids, go to ball games - do friend stuff and earn the right to talk and listen to each other?

I need to do this. I have to get up off my rear, get involved in service somewhere (Habitat for Humanity maybe?) and make some friends.

 

[arvo]

We are talking about communication and listening. Well - we can talk with people from different politics, that can be good, but that does not allow us to grow.

And then we can talk with very shy and humble people - with scientists - and we can hear how much can be done by science and technologies - whole new perspective opens up.

Did you know such things? Juergen Schmidhuber's home page - Universal Artificial Intelligence - New AI - Deep Learning - Recurrent Neural Networks - Computer Vision - Object Detection - Image segmentation - Goedel Machine - Theory of everything - Algorithmic theory of everything - Computable universe - Zuse's thesis - Universal learning algorithms - Universal search - Kolmogorov Complexity - Algorithmic information - Super Omega - Speed Prior - Independent component analysis - ICA - Financial forecasting - Evolution - Reinforcement learning - POMDPs - Reinforcement learning economy - Hierarchical learning - Metalearning - Learning to learn - Self-Improvement - Genetic programming - Attentive vision - Active exploration - Theory of beauty - Theory of creativity - Theory of Humor - Facial Attractiveness - Low-complexity Art - Lego Art

 

[Welshrabbit]

I would love to vote for an Andrew Yang or Tulsi Gabbard style Democrat. Unfortunately, they both have positions on abortion that prevent me from doing so.

 

[cloistered]

The majority of charter (and voucher) schools underperform traditional public school and take funds away from traditional public schools which educate 90% of american children . Charter and voucher schools are also much more likely to be racially segregated.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

I would love to vote for an Andrew Yang or Tulsi Gabbard style Democrat. Unfortunately, they both have positions on abortion that prevent me from doing so.

I did vote for Tulsi in the primaries, as she was the least offensive of all the Democratic candidates. I routinely vote in Democratic primaries, to try to push the party as close to the pro-life position as I can, or failing that, to support the weakest pro-choice candidate who has the least chance to win against the (usually) pro-life Republican. There could be exceptions.

 

[LilyM]

LilyM:

PatienceAndHumility:

But regarding “big R” institutional Racism, an enduring residual prejudice will always exist in society between people who are different. Fundamentally however, the issue of institutional racism doesn’t exist in a material way in the West in these modern days- Barack Obama as president showed this. General equality of opportunity also points to this. The meshing of cultures through globalization, will by its very nature take time- there will always remain people who will use race as a dividing issue. But we in the west are very much far ahead of many societies on “diversity”, and this is taken for granted- look at the far East, middle East, Africa in this same regard for example.

One in eight Americans is African-American, more than this are Hispanic-American. Yet in your whole history only one person of colour and no Hispanic-American that I am aware of has even been nominated by a major party either as President or VP.

That you have had a black President is certainly a great start, but nowhere near enough that you are entitled to rest on it as if it were a laurel of some sort. Nor is it any sort of evidence that institutional racism is dead. Starting to die, please God, but not dead.

I’m sorry but i don’t agree one bit with this and i think it creates more division. Identity politics invoked by the left creating issues of thin air to cover their own failures which by the way are compounding in communities that are top to bottom democrat, this tribalism and division, it’s so damaging. Also you talk about a Black President as being progressive, you see this to me seems infantile, think about it, if you didn’t care about race or gender then it shouldn’t matter what color or gender the president is, the BEST person should get the job regardless of that. The fact you want or think it’s progressive that a person of color should get it means you are looking at things through the prism of race

I’m sorry, you really think that Donald J Trump and Hillary R Clinton were the very best and brightest that each side of politics had to offer in 2016?

You honestly think that Trump.and Jo.Biden are.the very best and brightest each side has to offer now? And that Trump or any of the others got anywhere on merit? Thanks for the best laugh I’ve had in many years.

And that the Right don’t have their own fashionable causes (demonising immigrants, for one) and drums they beat well past the point of reason? Some.of which at least are to do.with race?

Even the worst of the African American and Hispanic candidates - on both sides, in the past and present election cycles,- have been, from.what I have seen of them, at the very least as impressive as any of the actual nominees. That none of them.apart feom.Obama have been nominated at least suggests bias and racism within the institutions that are the party machines on each side.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

Even the worst of the African American and Hispanic candidates - on both sides, in the past and present election cycles,- have been, from.what I have seen of them, at the very least as impressive as any of the actual nominees. That none of them.apart feom.Obama have been nominated at least suggests bias and racism within the institutions that are the party machines on each side.

I guess the majority of people that supposedly aren’t racist don’t have much power in the first place.