Why Catholics Should Vote for Trump article

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From the Catholic standpoint, the only choice on healthcare is Trump.
Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my position.

There may be segments of healthcare that Trump would handle better. They may be more important than the segments that have to do with covid 19.

I was only discussing management of healthcare to handle covid 19. The primary preparation for a pandemic like this would be preventive medicine to ensure there are fewer underlying conditions that will exacerbate the coronavirus effects. Trump has done nothing but try to limit preventive medicine and decrease stability of insurance coverage.

Far from there being nothing that can be done, preparation for another crisis has to be started now, establishing preventive care so fewer people will develop predisposing conditions. This means strengthening Obamacare’s preventive mandates, not seeking to overturn them. Trump is singularly unqualified for such an effort.

More children might be born under Trump, which would be good. More parents and grandparents will probably die, which would be not so good.
 
More children might be born under Trump, which would be good. More parents and grandparents will probably die, which would be not so good.

I am afraid you have not considered the numbers. Even given that covid killed 500,000 people a year, and even assuming that figure would be very much different from the number under Biden, which isn’t that likely, how many babies will die?

The Democrats are right now trying to push through a $66 million bill to fund the mass murder of babies worldwide. Trump made it illegal, but if Biden wins, we should assume it will pass.

And that will mean we have to consider the mass murder of millions of innocent babies. I’ve heard numbers that run from 3 million to 10 million babies killed.
 
Biden had nothing to do with the recovery.
Did too!!!
Your assessment of trump’s bankruptcies is factually incorrect; chapter 11s are often used to restructure debt and keep companies open and employing people.
What I said was “Trump has a history as a businessman of allowing disastrous challenges to send him into bankruptcy.“ I do not see how that is factually incorrect, or how your comment is pertinent. My point was only that he allows disasters to happen and then picks up the pieces by declaring bankruptcy.

That is not the “management style” I want in a president. If you are comfortable with that style, you can address how declaring bankruptcy would be good for the US. I really am not interested in such a ridiculous discussion, since I believe we are a capable country with the ability to avoid such disasters. But if you have something to say, I might read it.
 
I am afraid you have not considered the numbers.
No I have not.

What $66 million dollar bill? Who has said 3 million or 10 million abortions? They sound like the kind of fantasy facts found on LifesiteNews. Throwing out big numbers does not impress me, it just adds to the desperation that makes your notes so unreadable.
 
What I said was “Trump has a history as a businessman of allowing disastrous challenges to send him into bankruptcy.“ I do not see how that is factually incorrect, or how your comment is pertinent. My point was only that he allows disasters to happen and then picks up the pieces by declaring bankruptcy.

That is not the “management style” I want in a president. If you are comfortable with that style, you can address how declaring bankruptcy would be good for the US.
–Actually, Trump has never been “driven into bankruptcy,” so much as he’s astutely used it to shed debt: Which is exactly what a shrew businessman would do.

–If you’re troubled by the mere word “bankruptcy,” (and many really have no understanding of the complexities of Chapter 11), are you any more troubled that Joe Biden - a career politician on a modest salary - not only has misused his political connections to become a multimillionaire, and has parlayed his China connections to making his ne’er-do-well son Hunter into a multimillionaire too?

–Actually, Trump’s “management style” has nothing to do with any of this. Trump’s “management style” compares very favorably to Joe Biden, whose style alternates between “sniffing womens’ hair” and “hiding in his basement and never taking questions from reporters lest everyone see he’s senile.”
 
The US government is representative government. Who you vote for is you represented.
You vote for a liar, that is you represented.
You vote for one who practices corruption, that is you represented.
You vote for a false witness, that is you represented.

As a Catholic I cannot select Trump or Biden and say, “That one is myself represented.”

I will see you elect your president, but I will not consider you are Catholics electing your representative, but Americans showing your nature in whom you choose.
 
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Your defense is the Trump chose bankruptcy? That is what I object to, a management style that chooses he evisceration of the business and destruction of credit ratings and other signs of respect. That is how he handles his businesses, it is how he has handled the country.
Trump’s “management style” compares very favorably to Joe Biden, whose style alternates between “sniffing womens’ hair” and “hiding in his basement and never taking questions from reporters lest everyone see he’s senile.”
Do you really think Trump’s style is better than “sniffing women’s hair”? Trump’s own description of his relationships is about grabbing, not sniffing and a more private part than the hair.

Do you really think Biden has avoided more questions than Trump has with his long periods of never meeting with the Press, or talking only to Fox News to avoid any difficult questions.

On the standards you chose, women and the press, Biden far outshines Trump. Neither is perfect, but I do not see how anyone could chose Trump because of how he treats women or the press. Even the gibe about senility is ill placed, with Trump showing signs of paranoia that often signals dementia. Biden’s gaffes are not signs of aging, he has been making them for years.
 
Do you really think Biden has avoided more questions than Trump has with his long periods of never meeting with the Press, or talking only to Fox News to avoid any difficult questions.
–I think Biden has avoided everything. Terry Mcauliffe, former DNC chair, was caught on camera admitting that the democrat strategy is to hide Biden until election day. By contrast, Trump can’t hide - he keeps sending his press secretaries to field nothing but ‘gotcha’ questions daily from the likes of so-called journalists like Jim Acosta, AKA accusations/rants framed as questions.

Trump can’t hide. Hiding is all Biden does.

–But BTW – how do you feel about Biden’s enrichment of himself and his ne’er-do-well son?
 
That “joke” looks serious to me.

Here’s another reason to distrust Ol’ Joe: He plagarizes everyone, over and over, for the last 30 years. Here’s a great short article, published today at Real Clear Politics, showing how he plagarized in law school (he was flunked and had to repeat a class), right through last week, and lots in between.

He even plagarized…wait for it…Donald Trump!

 
What $66 million dollar bill? Who has said 3 million or 10 million abortions? They sound like the kind of fantasy facts found on LifesiteNews. Throwing out big numbers does not impress me, it just adds to the desperation that makes your notes so unreadable.
As a Catholic, I forgive you.

Next from THE HILL: 7/6/2020 House Democrats move to permanently restore funding for abortion access abroad

House Democrats are working to repeal restrictions imposed by the Trump administration that block U.S. foreign aid from helping fund programs that provide women access to an abortion as part of a $66 billion spending bill.
 
By contrast, Trump can’t hide - he keeps sending his press secretaries to field nothing but ‘gotcha’ questions daily from the likes of so-called journalists like Jim Acosta, AKA accusations/rants framed as questions.
So we agree, Trump avoids the press? Sometimes by trivializing their profession by calling them “gotcha” questions, sometimes by just ignoring.

Biden, at the moment, is in a position where candidates usually do not address the press much. Preparing for the convention, and the start of the campaign on Labor Day, usually means not much engagement with the press from the time the candidate is clear through July.
But BTW – how do you feel about Biden’s enrichment of himself and his ne’er-do-well son?
I do not know that much about it. His son Hunter does not deserve the ne’er-do-well appellation as far as I know. Your use of such pointed language is a sign of disinformation, so I am inclined to dismiss it.

What do you think about Trump’s involvement with Putin? Do you think he addressed Russian bounties on American troops when he talked to him today?
 
Couple things:

Hunter Biden’s “ne’er-do-well” description fits. New Yorker, 6/1/19 reported he had “strugged for decades with drug and alcohol addiction.” He washed out of the Navy reserve in 2014 due to drug use. At 50, he had a baby with a stipper; denied paternity, but finally fessed up:


–Yet Hunter is a multimillionaire, because of his dad’s ties to China.

No, Trump does not duck the media, so we disagree.

What do I think of Trump and Putin? That there was no Russian collusion; no one believes it; and the Dems’ false narrative of such collusion was a fabrication. The “bounty” narrative was exposed as a hoax within like 48 hour, weeks ago.

Biden probably still thinks Yuri Andropov is still in charge in the USSR.
 
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I figured it was that, but it is a $66 Billiion spending bill, $66 million would be .1 % of that, thouh I have not seen that number anywhere. The issue is the language overturning any use of the Mexico City policy, though there is some financial aid. But it is all a minor part of the $66 Billion bill, not the main purpose of the bill in any way.

Thanks for clearing up what you were talking about. Are the 3 or 10 million figures as jumbled as the $66 million figure?

These numbers are really not that important to me. Any mother killing her child is horrific to me, and when I hear about them I want to know how we can stop it. The numbers just show how severe the problem is.
 
Why anyone would vote at all is beyond me …
Oh, my! Voting is pretty much the only voice we have left, today. Writing or calling our representatives in Congress, or our Senators, doesn’t seem to do as much good as it once did, because they don’t listen to the people like they once did.

If we don’t vote, then we don’t get to add our say as to who we want for our leaders, and if we don’t vote, we forfeit the opportunity to accept or reject their policies.

By all means, get out and VOTE – while you STILL CAN! Because if things keep going the way they are, we might lose that precious right and there’ll be no more elections.
 
if we don’t vote, we forfeit the opportunity to accept or reject their policies.
I don’t vote and I haven’t forfeited the opportunity to accept or reject any policies any more than anyone else has.
By all means, get out and VOTE – while you STILL CAN!
No thank you.
 
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I don’t vote and I haven’t forfeited the opportunity to accept or reject any policies any more than anyone else has.
Well, sure…you can complain about it…but it’ll fall on deaf ears.

Honestly though, you gave up your voice by not utilizing your avenue to be heard.
No thank you.
OK, then don’t. But don’t complain about individuals who are voted into office, referendums that you either support or don’t that either get passed or don’t, additional tax spending where you don’t want the money to go, etc…
 
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