Why do people on CAF seem to think liberals are evil?

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" The Catholic Church is entitled to it’s opinion"

Again, you distance yourself from the Catholic Church and her teaching.
 
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How is gay marriage harmful? I think theft falls under universal morality. I do
 
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It goes against Gods plan and purpose for us, whether people believe He exists or not. Do you think that God’s laws apply to everyone or just people that believe He exists and are willing to listen to him?
 
I just don’t think the rest of us should be subject to Christian morality on certain cases such as gay marriage. If o were gay, atheist and wanted to have courthouse wedding and I couldn’t because of Christianity I’d think the government was biased. I can understand Christian chirches not marrying gays.
What’s the alternative for gay who wish to marry as partners
That does not have much to do with my point that you should not be surprised to find out that some people think you have proclaimed yourself to be evil.

Anyway, let’s look at your response. In here you treat “I’d think the government was biased.” as a sufficient reason to throw out a policy.

But do you do that consistently?
What’s evil about social equality and egalitarianism?
Can’t someone who, let’s say, ends up with higher taxes also think that the government is biased? And yet here you do not see that as a sufficient reason to throw out a policy.

Those things obviously do not fit.

And again, at least some people who notice that are likely to think that it is a sign of your dishonesty. It is unreasonable to expect that no one will think so.
 
Would that word be heresy? Or is apostasy a better fit? Either way your point is well taken.
 
I think we’ve already heard the answer to that question.The OP espouses non-Catholic views across the board.
 
Of course liberals aren’t evil but the political party they usually support is not in line with the life teachings of Jesus as shown in the five Catholic non negotiables.
Yet again…
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Why do people on CAF seem to think liberals are evil? Social Justice
There are more non-negotiable issues than those listed in Deal Hudson’s little pamphlet.
 
In government, only to those who believe in Him. Seriously do you think only marriages that should be allowed are Christian ones? I would be strongly offended if my government didn’t allow me to wed because of a religion I do not follow
 
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Are you aware that illegal immigration is a crime, and the adults must be placed in temporary detention? Are you aware that once they are deported, which is usually quickly, the US government reunites children and parents as expediently as possible and they are all returned to their country of origin as quickly as possible? Are you aware that children are being deliberately used as “chits” by traffickers in illegal immigration and the federal government has a positive duty to determine parentship, and to further determine that the children are not being abused?
You should inform yourself better before making such generalizations.
 
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2267:
Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people’s safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity “are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.”
This means the Church may allow it under very specific circumstances. However, if it can be avoided, we are obliged to avoid it.

The death penalty is not an intrinsic evil the same way abortion is.
 
Yes I’m well aware of the seamless garment nonsense that liberals who identify as Catholic cling to at election time when they somehow form their conscience to vote for candidate climate change even though that politician supports the killing of innocent human life.
 
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Higher taxes aren’t a personal issue like gay marriage. TBH I don’t think the government should be involved with that at all
 
Marriage is defined, instituted, and upheld by God, not man. As such, if any allowances are made against the original intent, then it needs to come from God, such as God permitting divorce under the Law of Moses. Likewise, any recovery of the original intent also must come from God, which is what Christ did during His ministry, as recorded in Matthew 19. Further, since God holds all authority on this matter, man can only govern it by authority granted from God and should be carried out in accordance with God’s design and decree. The Church, Christ’s bride, is the only one God has granted this authority to.

Now, it is entirely possible for marriages among Hindus and Muslims to be considered valid. In fact, I’m reasonably certain that the Church considers them valid unless proven otherwise, and should the couple divorce and remarry, they would require an annulment from the Church should they desire to become Catholic. However, these marriages still have to follow the actual definition and institution of marriage, and part of that is being between a man and woman, as Christ Himself taught.

The problem with equating a marriage between two men and a Muslim marriage between a man and a woman is that the Muslim marriage follows God’s design about who can marry. The marriage between two men is contrary to the definition of marriage given by God. Therefore, it can’t be considered valid before God, regardless of what governments say, because they don’t have authority to define or govern it in that regard.

Now, even if we theoretically can support political movements to give heterosexual and homosexual couples equal rights (I’m not 100% of the Church’s stance on that), we shouldn’t fall into the trap of acting like the government holds any authority in what marriage actually is or acting like marriage is just some definition different groups come up with.
 
Part of me genuinely wants to understand why some posters describe the liberal party as evil. I don’t understand.
Why don’t you ask those posters specifically instead of lumping everyone that doesn’t share your philosophy into one group? I have never heard anyone say liberals are evil, btw. But then again, maybe I am not on the right sub forums to hear that.
 
“For most CAF’ers, what drives their religious and political beliefs is abortion”

(Italics mine)
 
Again, moral relativism. Cherry picking the popular issue du jour that the secular crowd is running with and saying well that one must be ok. You know why these issues are evil, you just don’t agree with it.
 
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