Why do people on CAF seem to think liberals are evil?

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So, then, 3rd trimester abortions are okay? Because you said they weren’t upthread…
 
it should be remembered that each kind of living organism has a specific number and quality of chromosomes that are characteristic for each member of a species. (The number can vary only slightly if the organism is to survive.) For example, the characteristic number of chromosomes for a member of the human species is 46 (plus or minus, e.g., in human beings with Down�s or Turner�s syndromes). Every somatic (or, body) cell in a human being has this characteristic number of chromosomes. Even the early germ cells contain 46 chromosomes; it is only their mature forms - the sex gametes, or sperms and oocytes - which will later contain only 23 chromosomes each…1 Sperms and oocytes are derived from primitive germ cells in the developing fetus by means of the process known as “gametogenesis.” Because each germ cell normally has 46 chromosomes, the process of “fertilization” can not take place until the total number of chromosomes in each germ cell are cut in half. This is necessary so that after their fusion at fertilization the characteristic number of chromosomes in a single individual member of the human species (46) can be maintained�otherwise we would end up with a monster of some sort.

To accurately see why a sperm or an oocyte are considered as only possessing human life, and not as living human beings themselves, one needs to look at the basic scientific facts involved in the processes of gametogenesis and of fertilization. It may help to keep in mind that the products of gametogenesis and fertilization are very different. The products of gametogenesis are mature sex gametes with only 23 instead of 46 chromosomes. The product of fertilization is a living human being with 46 chromosomes. Gametogenesis refers to the maturation of germ cells, resulting in gametes. Fertilization refers to the initiation of a new human being.
 
I probably shouldn’t single put the particular posters who show no compassion towards the current ripping apart of families but apparently care about the family and the right to life when it comes to abortion
 
Ive already answered what I thought of third trimester abortions a d people with special needs.
 
Thanks for your replies. I’ll just have to educate myself. CAF answers on other issues can be discouraging but apparently abortion is the worse evil.
 
Ha, ha! You have no idea what it’s like being a pro-life liberal. I get to tick EVERYBODY off, lol! Suffice to say, I’m always available for dinner on short notice.

Great conversation! 😍
 
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That borders on cruel to wait then to terminate the pregnancy.
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A child in the womb can feel pain at 10 weeks. It is also possible that the intensity of the pain they feel may be greater at this stage than later on as the ‘pain dampening’ mechanisms that humans develop to lessen pain haven’t yet been formed. So why then would a later stage abortion be more cruel than an early stage abortion? In both cases the child feels the pain as it is killed without anaesthetic.
 
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An embryo at the first weeks I believe has no brain activity, or consciousness yet and no heartbeat. I don’t think they can experience pain.
 
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They can feel pain from about 8 weeks.

"Response to touch
Human embryos of five weeks gestational age have been seen to move away from an object touching the mouth area. The sensitive area extends to include the rest of the face in the sixth and seventh weeks and the palms of the hands and soles of the feet in the eighth and ninth weeks respectively.

A British study shows that the baby’s movements begin at the same time as sensory nerves begin to grow into the spinal cord in the second month of pregnancy; the nerve fibres respond to touches to the skin and movement of the limbs: at this stage the baby’s sensory nerves “appear to be more sensitive than those of the adult or newborn baby.”"

https://www.spuc.org.uk/abortion/human-development-of-the-unborn-child

The notion that unborn children do not feel pain until the later part of the pregnancy is convenient for those who wish to justify abortion.

As for a child’s heartbeat, that starts at around 3 weeks.
 
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Besides women, do you believe Blacks have also chosen NOT to be in certain professions including medicine, law, and academia? Do you believe women, Blacks, and Jews at the beginning of the 20th century and even up to mid-century all CHOSE not to attend Ivy League and other colleges, let alone graduate school, and also chose NOT to teach at the university level? And do you believe the fact my female cousin who worked diligently and long hours for many years in a famous company CHOSE to rise no higher than one of the vice-presidents, given that company has no record of EVER in its long history promoting a woman to president?
 
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Well abortion is a direct action that results in death of a human being. Owning a gun does not in most cases result in death and its a Constitutional Right to prevent death and govt force against you if THEY violate your rights-and in history governments have violated rights. AND families are “ripped apart” whenever a person is incarcerated-citizen or not. Thats just the way it is and its the parents fault for not considering that-not law enforcement.
 
I have never heard anyone on CAF call liberals evil either. I think maybe the OP is taking civilized debate as hating liberals.
 
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