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Yes, it is the same body, and it is the Catholic Church. One and the same.About this Church you’re referring to. This is the same church that is the Body of Christ, His Sheep, His true followers, rt?
Yes, it is the same body, and it is the Catholic Church. One and the same.About this Church you’re referring to. This is the same church that is the Body of Christ, His Sheep, His true followers, rt?
A while back someone actually showed a verse in Acts that actually does say the Church is Catholic. I forget the verse but I think the words were something like ‘Cat olica’ in the Greek. It has the same meaning as Catholica.Where will you find the words Incarnation, Trinity, or even Church of Jesus in the New Testament? Yet you seem to believe these things, though they are implicit in the Word of God. However…in one of the very earliest of letters of a bishop from one church to another, he called the church just exactly that.
I’ll add one more that I could not shake when I was making my way through all of the above. I could not get around the fact that to remain Protestant, I had to pretend that a true church did not exist between the death of the Apostles and the birth of Calvin and Luther. When I read the writings of the Christians throughout the ages that were a witness to what the Church looked like before the Reformation, I could not ignore them. It was a shock that changed me forever. I saw things from an eternal perspective for the first time and not just from the perspective of my life only.Ok, so I say we move on without her. The original topic of this thread was, “Why do Protestants become Catholic?” In light of our recent posts here, I have several answers.
Gosh…I guess I could go on all day. But I won’t.
- They want a closer relationship with Jesus.
- They seek the truth, and they find it in Rome.
- They realize that the Protestant movement was an act of heresy.
- They search for Biblical support of Protestant beliefs and they can’t find it.
Have a blessed day everyone!
Actually, I like the majority of Protestants that come here. They help sharpen my debating skills.Why don’t trouble making Protestents stay on their own website?
The holy Spirit moves in mysterious ways. Who knows how the Truth will haunt them when they least expect it? Or when? It might be years, it might be on the brink of death, that they have an understanding that stubborn will would not allow. In any case, everyone will know for sure “on the other side”.Actually, I like the majority of Protestants that come here. They help sharpen my debating skills.
Welcome home! As the first Catholic in my family for about five generations, I can relate. I thought that my parents would have a heart attack when I told them that I was going to convert, but six months later there they were at my confirmation. Since then, they have been back to Mass and continue to ask me questions from time to time. This year, my Dad asked me to bring him a Catholic Bible. For the first time in my life, my Dad is taking a really hard look at the scriptures. I warned him about that, as I believe that the harder you look…the closer to Rome you get!Why does a Protestant become Catholic? maybe because we want to stop “protest-ing” and become united.
I have been raised my entire life in Pentecostal churches, some non-denominational and some denominational. I am over 45 years old and I can find just about any verse you want to mention or back up why my church believes this or that. I have personally investigated those beliefs one by one. I love to study the Bible and discuss and go to church and praise and worship and pray and I have been baptized, “sanctified” and filled with the Holy Ghost with “speaking in other tongues” (which is not the issue here) but until I was willing to consider what God was saying through the Catholic church I could not find the answers that I was looking for. I have studied the Jewish side of things for over 10 years and understand what many Jewish things in the old and new testament scriptures mean but I ignored the fact that after the Jewish christians came the Catholic christians. It is funny that so many Protestant churches will not teach church history from before Martin Luther. I was naive enough to believe that all the early church was “Pentecostal” and it drained out of them and they became Catholic. I have searched for years for the unbroken line. I finally found it when I became willing to consider that God actually was in the Catholic church and it was the one that Jesus began. There is a richness to the faith that I have missed because I only had a shadow of it. I have told many of my Catholic friends that if a Catholic converts it is usually because he did not understand the richness of his faith. But when a Protestant understands the truth and receives it he won’t leave it because he has come home. Yay! I have come home! and let me tell you I am the only one in my family for as far back as you want to go in my family tree and as far wide in the geneaology which is very sad. I know they are and have all been godly people and have given me a godly heritage and love for God and his word and his people and I will always be grateful for it but they need to be willing to open their eyes and minds. It is scary but God will not let go of you.
Julia1, I think you are missing it…they are not asking if you “are” a nice fundamental, but rather “NiceFundamental”…which is my moniker.Are you “NiceFundamental” under a different name now?
Well now that depends…sometimes I can be very nice and then sometimes I can be not so very nice…
Depends on which way the wind blows…
Not one in the same. Am I that appalling? (no offense Julia1).NiceFundamental & Julia1, or whomever you choose to be right now,
Well said.I’ll add one more that I could not shake when I was making my way through all of the above. I could not get around the fact that to remain Protestant, I had to pretend that a true church did not exist between the death of the Apostles and the birth of Calvin and Luther. When I read the writings of the Christians throughout the ages that were a witness to what the Church looked like before the Reformation, I could not ignore them. It was a shock that changed me forever. I saw things from an eternal perspective for the first time and not just from the perspective of my life only.
I am interested to know why you think Julia1 is me? You may PM me if you wish…Peace
Are you “NiceFundamental” under a different name now?
Peace.
I think what has caused the confusion about identity is the common *spirit * of scorn or mocking. There seem to be only a few on these boards that have that trait. Our Lord often cautions us about the way in which we treat each other, especially when using words. I know these aren’t spoken words here, but they are the same in spirit. Christ himself was scorned and mocked, He understands what it does to a soul. It can cause someone to stumble, and it often times is used here for just that purpose, to cause someone to react in a sinful way. That means that it is the Tempter who is truly behind it.Not one in the same. Am I that appalling? (no offense Julia1).
Something else that probably leads to the confusion is that both you and Julia only list your birthdates on your profile(yeah, I do read them ) which gives you both another similarity.Not one in the same. Am I that appalling? (no offense Julia1).