Why does America always have an "enemy?"

[santiagoamr]

All one has to do is look at the armed conflicts of the United States and them meddling so that they can have supremacy. First it started in the region and then the continent now the world. And all of that jut for $$$$$$

 

[dreamer29]

Who do you think should be blamed for King Davad’s wars (c1000 BC)? The Bushes? The human race has had wars for about as long as there has been around. OBTH Hitler and Stalin also ‘held things togather’ while murdering over thirty million of their own people.

Agreed.

 

[PolarGuy]

I thought about responding to santiagoamr…

…but it would fall under casting pearls before you know what.

Besides, since there is no reasoning presented, we really have no substance to respond to.

So I’ll just ignore those rants.

 

[Pulvis]

I agree with you wholeheartedly.Other than the Catholic Church the United States has been the greatest force for good in the history of mankind

With all due respect, you do not know history. Neither world history, nor the history of this country. I am sure the Romans thought highly of the empire. The Ottoman Turks saw themselves as nation builders also. And the British were simply bettering the lives of their subjects. The only group to travel the world and change people for the better were Catholic missionaries. Everyone else was looking for people to exploit and land to rape. The US has done the exact same, both here and abroad. And continues to do so.

I have seen the results of US meddling up close and personal. It Is a dirty, ruthless business. And it has absolutely nothing to do with national security. Eisenhower tried to warn us before he left the Presidency, but was silenced.

And in response to another poster indignant at the comparison of the US to nazis and Stalin, no , we have not stooped to that level,yet. But remember, osama bin laden was on our payroll when the taliban were called freedom fighters and were shooting at russians. And many of our sons and daughters were killed by Iraqis who were trained and armed by us when they were shooting at Iranians. There is your nation building Bob.

 

[zamyrabyrd]

Don’t you remember GWB’s answer to that question, in his own inimitable manner: “They hate us for our freedom.”
The black-and-white mindset of “us” against “them” and “good” against “evil” is often very psychologically reassuring, especially when “G-d is on our side.”

I may have read this article 13 years ago but at the time, thought it was wild, now it makes perfect tragic sense for all of us.
counterpunch.org/2002/10/11/bush-and-dry-drunk-syndrome/
Katherine Van Wormer writes: “Dry drunk is a slang term used by members and supporters of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance abuse counselors to describe the recovering alcoholic who is no longer drinking, one who is dry, but whose thinking is clouded. Such an individual is said to be dry but not truly sober. Such an individual tends to go to extremes.
It was when I started noticing the extreme language that colored President Bush’s speeches that I began to wonder. First there were the terms– “crusade” and “infinite justice” that were later withdrawn. Next came “evil doers,” “axis of evil,” and “regime change”, terms that have almost become cliches in the mass media. Something about the polarized thinking and the obsessive repetition reminded me of many of the recovering alcoholics/addicts I had treated.
Another “dry drunk” trait is impatience. Bush is far from a patient man: “If we wait for threats to fully materialize,” he said in a speech he gave at West Point, “we will have waited too long.” Significantly, Bush only waited for the United Nations and for Congress to take up the matter of Iraq’s disarmament with extreme reluctance…Alan Bisbort argues that Bush possesses the characteristics of the “dry drunk” in terms of: his incoherence while speaking away from the script; In short, George W. Bush seems to possess the traits characteristic of addictive persons who still have the thought patterns that accompany substance abuse. If we consult the latest scientific findings, we will discover that scientists can now observe changes that occur in the brain as a result of heavy alcohol and other drug abuse. Some of these changes may be permanent. Except in extreme cases, however, these cognitive impairments would not be obvious to most observers.
Bush later explained: “[A]lcohol began to compete with my energies….I’d lose focus.” Although he once said he couldn’t remember a day he hadn’t had a drink, he added that he didn’t believe he was “clinically alcoholic.” Even his father, who had known for years that his son had a serious drinking problem, publicly proclaimed: “He was never an alcoholic. It’s just he knows he can’t hold his liquor.”
Bush drank heavily for over 20 years until he made the decision to abstain at age 40.”

Did he keep his promise? A DUI arrest happened only a year ago:
empirenews.net/george-w-bush-arrested-for-cocaine-possession/
“One of the most notorious Presidents in history of The United States of America is back in the spotlight, but not because of his politics. George W. Bush was arrested in a Dallas suburb late Tuesday evening after a routine traffic stop uncovered over an ounce of cocaine in his glove compartment.
Dallas police say they pulled over Bush after he made a right turn without signaling. Officers report they were surprised when seeing it was the ex-president, but felt something was off about his behavior. They say Bush seemed under the influence of a narcotic, and the officers on-scene asked to search the car. Curiously, Bush consented, and police found the narcotics.”

 

[PolarGuy]

Sigh. Another evening; another anti-American rant by an “American” lacking maturity or historical perspective.

Now it’s Pulvis.

Now, Pulvis makes a number of statements:

1. First, Pulvis says “The only group to travel the world and change people for the better were Catholic missionaries.”

–The *only *group, Pulvis? The ONLY group? Pulvis betrays immaturity by sweeping generalizations only the immature would accept. Those American soldiers who died on Omaha Beach to help free France? They had NOTHING to offer the world? Or the soldiers that helped protect South Korea from Communist aggression? They didn’t do anything of note? Those soldiers who died on Omaha Beach were there to exploit people and rape land? No one believes that…and I suspect Pulvis doesn’t believe it either.

1. Next, Pulvis says that he/se has “seen the results of US meddling up close and personal. It Is a dirty, ruthless business…”

–Gee, are we supposed to just, you know, take Pulvis’ word for it? Exactly what have you seen, Pulvis, with your own eyes? Tell us: Where in the world have you visited? What exactly have you witnessed? What have you done about what you witnessed?

1. Finally, I’ll ask Pulvis the question I ask all Anti-American Americans, that no one on this board ever seem able to answer well: * Where else would you like to live, if not in the USA? And why haven’t you left yet?*

While you think about answering those, Pulvis, please remember: It is only because of American soldiers that you sleep in your safe warm bed tonight; and the same goes for 3 generations of Western Europeans. The USA doesn’t need to build walls to keep its people in, and you’d like to leave, feel free.

I’d add that lots of those US soldiers on Omaha beach were - dare I say it - Protestants. Some were even Jewish. Kind of puts paid to the nonsense that only Catholic missionaries had anything to offer, no?

 

[GKC]

I may have read this article 13 years ago but at the time, thought it was wild, now it makes perfect tragic sense for all of us.
counterpunch.org/2002/10/11/bush-and-dry-drunk-syndrome/
Katherine Van Wormer writes: “Dry drunk is a slang term used by members and supporters of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance abuse counselors to describe the recovering alcoholic who is no longer drinking, one who is dry, but whose thinking is clouded. Such an individual is said to be dry but not truly sober. Such an individual tends to go to extremes.
It was when I started noticing the extreme language that colored President Bush’s speeches that I began to wonder. First there were the terms– “crusade” and “infinite justice” that were later withdrawn. Next came “evil doers,” “axis of evil,” and “regime change”, terms that have almost become cliches in the mass media. Something about the polarized thinking and the obsessive repetition reminded me of many of the recovering alcoholics/addicts I had treated.
Another “dry drunk” trait is impatience. Bush is far from a patient man: “If we wait for threats to fully materialize,” he said in a speech he gave at West Point, “we will have waited too long.” Significantly, Bush only waited for the United Nations and for Congress to take up the matter of Iraq’s disarmament with extreme reluctance…Alan Bisbort argues that Bush possesses the characteristics of the “dry drunk” in terms of: his incoherence while speaking away from the script; In short, George W. Bush seems to possess the traits characteristic of addictive persons who still have the thought patterns that accompany substance abuse. If we consult the latest scientific findings, we will discover that scientists can now observe changes that occur in the brain as a result of heavy alcohol and other drug abuse. Some of these changes may be permanent. Except in extreme cases, however, these cognitive impairments would not be obvious to most observers.
Bush later explained: “[A]lcohol began to compete with my energies….I’d lose focus.” Although he once said he couldn’t remember a day he hadn’t had a drink, he added that he didn’t believe he was “clinically alcoholic.” Even his father, who had known for years that his son had a serious drinking problem, publicly proclaimed: “He was never an alcoholic. It’s just he knows he can’t hold his liquor.”
Bush drank heavily for over 20 years until he made the decision to abstain at age 40.”

Did he keep his promise? A DUI arrest happened only a year ago:
empirenews.net/george-w-bush-arrested-for-cocaine-possession/
“One of the most notorious Presidents in history of The United States of America is back in the spotlight, but not because of his politics. George W. Bush was arrested in a Dallas suburb late Tuesday evening after a routine traffic stop uncovered over an ounce of cocaine in his glove compartment.
Dallas police say they pulled over Bush after he made a right turn without signaling. Officers report they were surprised when seeing it was the ex-president, but felt something was off about his behavior. They say Bush seemed under the influence of a narcotic, and the officers on-scene asked to search the car. Curiously, Bush consented, and police found the narcotics.”

snopes.com/media/notnews/bushcocaine.asp

GKC

 

[meltzerboy]

God can not be on the side of murdering sociopaths and thieves, America is just another puppet, much like the devil is the puppet to God’s plans.

Check out the Bob Dylan song, “With G-d on our Side.”

 

[zamyrabyrd]

snopes.com/media/notnews/bushcocaine.asp
GKC

I wasn’t able to open the link but found plenty more interesting articles. The nice opart about Snopes is that it has an open mind if an allegation or story may be true or false and makes the effort to find out the truth. Following the link in Snopes is the complete letter by Tomas Young about how he and hundreds of thousands of Americans were betrayed by their own country: truthdig.com/dig/item/the_last_letter_20130318
"I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City…

I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief…

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage…

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East.

I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war."

 

[GKC]

I wasn’t able to open the link but found plenty more interesting articles. The nice opart about Snopes is that it has an open mind if an allegation or story may be true or false and makes the effort to find out the truth. Following the link in Snopes is the complete letter by Tomas Young about how he and hundreds of thousands of Americans were betrayed by their own country: truthdig.com/dig/item/the_last_letter_20130318
"I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City…

I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief…

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage…

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East.

I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war."

urbanlegends.about.com/od/Fake-News/ss/George-W-Bush-Arrested-For-Cocaine-Possession.htm

GKC

 

[Pulvis]

Sigh. Another evening; another anti-American rant by an “American” lacking maturity or historical perspective.

Now it’s Pulvis.

Now, Pulvis makes a number of statements:

1. First, Pulvis says “The only group to travel the world and change people for the better were Catholic missionaries.”

–The *only *group, Pulvis? The ONLY group? Pulvis betrays immaturity by sweeping generalizations only the immature would accept. Those American soldiers who died on Omaha Beach to help free France? They had NOTHING to offer the world? Or the soldiers that helped protect South Korea from Communist aggression? They didn’t do anything of note? Those soldiers who died on Omaha Beach were there to exploit people and rape land? No one believes that…and I suspect Pulvis doesn’t believe it either.

1. Next, Pulvis says that he/se has “seen the results of US meddling up close and personal. It Is a dirty, ruthless business…”

–Gee, are we supposed to just, you know, take Pulvis’ word for it? Exactly what have you seen, Pulvis, with your own eyes? Tell us: Where in the world have you visited? What exactly have you witnessed? What have you done about what you witnessed?

1. Finally, I’ll ask Pulvis the question I ask all Anti-American Americans, that no one on this board ever seem able to answer well: * Where else would you like to live, if not in the USA? And why haven’t you left yet?*

While you think about answering those, Pulvis, please remember: It is only because of American soldiers that you sleep in your safe warm bed tonight; and the same goes for 3 generations of Western Europeans. The USA doesn’t need to build walls to keep its people in, and you’d like to leave, feel free.

I’d add that lots of those US soldiers on Omaha beach were - dare I say it - Protestants. Some were even Jewish. Kind of puts paid to the nonsense that only Catholic missionaries had anything to offer, no?

You misapply personal sacrifice to a country rather than to an individual. Before requesting my bona fides, what are yours? And actually, where I have served, and what I have seen are none of your business.

I am not anti American people any more than I am anti any people. Nations are made up of Governments and people. If you cannot distinguish between the two, you cannot understand the difference between personal sacrifice for a cause, and an over arching government manipulating peoples and events to their own ends. The good that has been accomplished by the US was accomplished by People! Not the Government. The Government was not on Omaha Beach. Volunteers and drafted soldiers were. The government was not on Iwo Jima. Volunteer and drafted Marines bleed and died to win that ground. And Government was not in Anbar province, Mogadishu, Fallujah, Kobar Towers, or any where else around the world where American soldiers, sailors and airmen have bleed and died.
I have stated facts that are backed up by history, if you wish to educate yourself. I have not slandered nor attacked anyone on a personal level, as you have. Nor have I impugned anyone’s character. Those are the tactics of the progressive left. If you choose to believe all the propaganda from the state, that is your right. But under the constitution, and per the rules of this forum, I also have the right to state my opinion as well. Good day.

 

[estesbob]

I may have read this article 13 years ago but at the time, thought it was wild, now it makes perfect tragic sense for all of us.
counterpunch.org/2002/10/11/bush-and-dry-drunk-syndrome/
Katherine Van Wormer writes: “Dry drunk is a slang term used by members and supporters of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance abuse counselors to describe the recovering alcoholic who is no longer drinking, one who is dry, but whose thinking is clouded. Such an individual is said to be dry but not truly sober. Such an individual tends to go to extremes.
It was when I started noticing the extreme language that colored President Bush’s speeches that I began to wonder. First there were the terms– “crusade” and “infinite justice” that were later withdrawn. Next came “evil doers,” “axis of evil,” and “regime change”, terms that have almost become cliches in the mass media. Something about the polarized thinking and the obsessive repetition reminded me of many of the recovering alcoholics/addicts I had treated.
Another “dry drunk” trait is impatience. Bush is far from a patient man: “If we wait for threats to fully materialize,” he said in a speech he gave at West Point, “we will have waited too long.” Significantly, Bush only waited for the United Nations and for Congress to take up the matter of Iraq’s disarmament with extreme reluctance…Alan Bisbort argues that Bush possesses the characteristics of the “dry drunk” in terms of: his incoherence while speaking away from the script; In short, George W. Bush seems to possess the traits characteristic of addictive persons who still have the thought patterns that accompany substance abuse. If we consult the latest scientific findings, we will discover that scientists can now observe changes that occur in the brain as a result of heavy alcohol and other drug abuse. Some of these changes may be permanent. Except in extreme cases, however, these cognitive impairments would not be obvious to most observers.
Bush later explained: “[A]lcohol began to compete with my energies….I’d lose focus.” Although he once said he couldn’t remember a day he hadn’t had a drink, he added that he didn’t believe he was “clinically alcoholic.” Even his father, who had known for years that his son had a serious drinking problem, publicly proclaimed: “He was never an alcoholic. It’s just he knows he can’t hold his liquor.”
Bush drank heavily for over 20 years until he made the decision to abstain at age 40.”

Did he keep his promise? A DUI arrest happened only a year ago:
empirenews.net/george-w-bush-arrested-for-cocaine-possession/
“One of the most notorious Presidents in history of The United States of America is back in the spotlight, but not because of his politics. George W. Bush was arrested in a Dallas suburb late Tuesday evening after a routine traffic stop uncovered over an ounce of cocaine in his glove compartment.
Dallas police say they pulled over Bush after he made a right turn without signaling. Officers report they were surprised when seeing it was the ex-president, but felt something was off about his behavior. They say Bush seemed under the influence of a narcotic, and the officers on-scene asked to search the car. Curiously, Bush consented, and police found the narcotics.”

Empire news is a fake news site . Shame on you for posting such slander I am recovering alcoholic with over 29 years of sobriety I can tell you that the AA community was greatly incensed when Bushes opponent started referring to him as a dry drunk . More slander with no basis in reality

 

[zamyrabyrd]

urbanlegends.about.com/od/Fake-News/ss/George-W-Bush-Arrested-For-Cocaine-Possession.htm
GKC

Even a satire or hoax can serve the purpose of spurring further interest in the subject. This is not a smoke without fire. I don’t know how a megalomaniac cretin was sold to the US public for President.* “If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”* 2000-12-18 BusinessWeek Online, 2001-07-27
“We will make sure our troops have all that is necessary to complete their missions. That’s why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental — supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel.” 2004-09-04
He was allegedly arrested for cocaine possession not a year ago, but in 1972 (a big year for coke, apparently). However, his record was expunged due to his family ties. The point is he ALWAYS evaded questions about taking drugs, only saying “I was young and reckless”.
While the book on Bush, “Fortunate Son” paints a surprisingly sympathetic picture of him, the author was hounded to suicide by the Bush family largely over one line in the book, where Junior on more than one occasion stripped off his uniform and danced (ahem!)… It talks about the AWOL mystery, how he wriggled out of the mandatory annual medical exams and how he simply stopped flying even after the taxpayers had forked over a million dollars for his flight training." mindprod.com/politics/bushbookscocaine.html#COCAINE
All this and more brings to mind an astute interpretation of “Capital Punishment” -* “when you have capital, you don’t get punishment”.* This could also be applied to Laura Bush’s driving past a stop sign when 17 and killing the driver of an oncoming car. Of course, Ted Kennedy got away with Chappaquiddick in 1969 and went on to a long career in politics…

 

[GKC]

Even a satire or hoax can serve the purpose of spurring further interest in the subject. This is not a smoke without fire. I don’t know how a megalomaniac cretin was sold to the US public for President.* “If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”* 2000-12-18 BusinessWeek Online, 2001-07-27
“We will make sure our troops have all that is necessary to complete their missions. That’s why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental — supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel.” 2004-09-04
He was allegedly arrested for cocaine possession not a year ago, but in 1972 (a big year for coke, apparently). However, his record was expunged due to his family ties. The point is he ALWAYS evaded questions about taking drugs, only saying “I was young and reckless”.
While the book on Bush, “Fortunate Son” paints a surprisingly sympathetic picture of him, the author was hounded to suicide by the Bush family largely over one line in the book, where Junior on more than one occasion stripped off his uniform and danced (ahem!)… It talks about the AWOL mystery, how he wriggled out of the mandatory annual medical exams and how he simply stopped flying even after the taxpayers had forked over a million dollars for his flight training." mindprod.com/politics/bushbookscocaine.html#COCAINE
All this and more brings to mind an astute interpretation of “Capital Punishment” -* “when you have capital, you don’t get punishment”.* This could also be applied to Laura Bush’s driving past a stop sign when 17 and killing the driver of an oncoming car. Of course, Ted Kennedy got away with Chappaquiddick in 1969 and went on to a long career in politics…

bushwatch.tripod.com/LiesAboutBush/id2.html

 

[zamyrabyrd]

Empire news is a fake news site . Shame on you for posting such slander I am recovering alcoholic with over 29 years of sobriety I can tell you that the AA community was greatly incensed when Bushes opponent started referring to him as a dry drunk . More slander with no basis in reality

All honor to honest, struggling alcoholics but George W Bush was a WAR CRIMINAL on the same level as Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao and Hitler. What makes him worse than the last three is that he is responsible for wasting the lives of his good honest countrymen who trusted him. He knew that there were no WMD’s in Iraq. The ONLY ones were the what he brought in, lethal depleted uranium that not only killed and poisoned Iraq’s but soldiers who were not adequately protected. The invasion of Iraq was only a sick joke that can only be concocted and carried out only by druggies or those whose brain cells have been killed off by alcohol or a combination of both to revenge his father.

 

[estesbob]

Even a satire or hoax can serve the purpose of spurring further interest in the subject. This is not a smoke without fire. I don’t know how a megalomaniac cretin was sold to the US public for President.* “If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”* 2000-12-18 BusinessWeek Online, 2001-07-27
“We will make sure our troops have all that is necessary to complete their missions. That’s why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental — supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel.” 2004-09-04
He was allegedly arrested for cocaine possession not a year ago, but in 1972 (a big year for coke, apparently). However, his record was expunged due to his family ties. The point is he ALWAYS evaded questions about taking drugs, only saying “I was young and reckless”.
While the book on Bush, “Fortunate Son” paints a surprisingly sympathetic picture of him, the author was hounded to suicide by the Bush family largely over one line in the book, where Junior on more than one occasion stripped off his uniform and danced (ahem!)… It talks about the AWOL mystery, how he wriggled out of the mandatory annual medical exams and how he simply stopped flying even after the taxpayers had forked over a million dollars for his flight training." mindprod.com/politics/bushbookscocaine.html#COCAINE
All this and more brings to mind an astute interpretation of “Capital Punishment” -* “when you have capital, you don’t get punishment”.* This could also be applied to Laura Bush’s driving past a stop sign when 17 and killing the driver of an oncoming car. Of course, Ted Kennedy got away with Chappaquiddick in 1969 and went on to a long career in politics…

So now you’re falling back on the infamous Mike Wallace fake but true defense. You posted vile slander about a former President of the United States . When it was pointed out to you that the slander you posted was untrue you shrugged it off and posted some more slander . You have zilch credibility . Bye

 

[estesbob]

bushwatch.tripod.com/LiesAboutBush/id2.html

If we don’t feed them they will go away.

 

[zamyrabyrd]

So now you’re falling back on the infamous Mike Wallace fake but true defense. You posted vile slander about a former President of the United States . When it was pointed out to you that the slander you posted was untrue you shrugged it off and posted some more slander . You have zilch credibility . Bye

Who has ZILCH credibility? Where are the flaming Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq? People got killed for that, plenty, at least a half million Iraqi’s. For what? So Bush (Shrub is a better name for him) could give them freedom to be terrorized by ISIS? Saddam Hussein for the most part left the Christians alone, now they are being murdered, raped and their churches destroyed and must run for their lives. The depleted uranium poisoning of areas like Falluja is such a grotesque evil spawning monsters in the womb and after.
Insult a President of the United States? He is DIRT under my feet.
And as for alcoholics, I didn’t know there was a community that also could be insulted, but I have personal experience with those whose brains were ruined by it. For sure such a person should not have the highest office in the land. He didn’t even know what he was supposed to do once he got there. One of his insane babblings: “The legislature’s job is to write laws; the executive branch’s job is to interpret law.” (Bush thought he was elected supreme court judge, not president.)

 

[exnihilo]

It’s as if we’re always one small step from happiness. Take for example the British, Germany, Japan, the Soviet Union and now ISIS and other radical Muslims.

The product governments offer is protection. They offer protection from men who want to harm you. If you don’t pay them their protection money they do to you what the guys they are protecting you from would do. In order to expand their power they have to keep you thinking you need ever more protection. They also have to fail at protection. If they ever succeeded you wouldn’t want more of their product.

Also the Puritanical Yankee spirit won the country. It is anything but a live and let live philosophy. It is the spirit that says sodomy and abortion are fundamental rights but smoking is the greatest evil godless nature produced.

Don’t you remember GWB’s answer to that question, in his own inimitable manner: “They hate us for our freedom.”

GWB was nothing if not consistent. In order to protect us he took away as much of our freedom as he possibly could. Thus he lessened their hatred of us.

I am a veteran. I freely raised my hand and swore to protect this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. But i was very young and gullible in 1973. Now i am mich wiser, and do not wrap myself in the flag and yell 'Merica every time another comflict of our own creation comes along. I have studied history

That is why the military wants youngsters. Older men think too much. My grandfather was in his late 20s when he was drafted for WWII. His stories, when he told them which was rare, weren’t stories of a grand liberating army but stories of how he was canon fodder and how he realized both armies were full of men who would otherwise be friends if not for their governments.

One thing I’ve not understood about the South is our love of the various military adventures. You’d think being the first nation to fully experience the wrathful boot of the Union we’d be against its wars.

 

[GKC]

If we don’t feed them they will go away.

Possibly so.

Which is not to say that I know or have read everything there is to know about about what G.W. did or did not do. Lots of stuff being alleged. Lots of it politically driven. One picks and chooses. I well recall my reaction to the Killian papers, back in the Dan Rather days. Based on 20 years in the AF, the formatting of some of the stuff looked odd to me.

But given a political proclivity, one chooses ones sources. Including a satire site, for that one. Probably looked useful.

GKC