Why I am a Catholic vegan

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Good point.

My sister-in-law was just telling me that they bought a lamb from a FFA member at the County Fair. They and a friend went in halves and had it butchered. The price was excellent and they know that the animal was hand raised by this young person, in preparation for entry in the County Fair.
I’ve considered getting a deep freeze so that I can follow suit. Any thoughts?

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A lot of people here in Boulder Colorado think that being a meat-eater is weird. Many people probably also think that being a carnivore is being a gun nut, right? Well, I am here to tell you that I became a carnivore for simple moral reasons. I became a lactivore (milk-eater) first in life, followed by going on to meat-eating. I learned about a farming industry that abuses most vegetables, and how their life is miserable until they are inhumanely killed. I learned how the environmental industry has encouraged the overpopulation of many large groups of wild quadrupeds, who die a horrible death from starvation or malnutrition. I encourage everyone here to explore meat-eating and maybe even hunting. Here are some sites to get you started, or at least thinking. Remember: Vegetables are not food. Vegetables are what food eats!

The Boulder Vegetable Rights Association.
bvra.org

People Eating Tasty Animals
mtd.com/tasty/

Eating Meat is Natural
acs.ucalgary.ca/~powlesla/personal/hunting/rights/meat.txt

Vegetable Liberation Front
geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3652/

Anti-human quotes from Animal Right activists (You shall know them by the company they keep!)
acs.ucalgary.ca/~powlesla/personal/hunting/rights/antihuman.txt
“Animal liberationists do not separate out the human animal, so there is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They are all mammals.”
–Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), as quoted in Vogue, September 1989.
 
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SavedByHim:
So, my question is, do the vegans on this thread object to the actual eating of animal products or just the way they are treated?
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Well, I’m not a vegan, and I’m not speaking for anyone but myself: My objections are on how the animals are treated, not against eating meat in and of itself.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Dr. Ornish is the author of one of those eat-more-lose-weight diets which is a ‘fad’ diet.

If you just eat vegetables and fruits, you lower your fat intake to less than 10%. You eat all you want on this diet.

I am diabetic which requires a carbohydrate-limited diet. I can’t follow the Ornish diet without modification. Some vegetables like potatoes and carrots are quickly converted into sugar in the body and diabetics cannot tolerate such high peaks of blood sugar. For us, it’s like eating honey – loads of sugar.

The high fiber fruits and vegetables are preferred for us. It’s more moral for us to adjust our diets to our biological needs.
 
There are sheep in the fields to the east of me, I can hear roosters crowing all day to the west of me, pigs in the fields north of me and corn fields out my front door (which is south.) I can buy fresh brown eggs for a $1 a dozen 3 houses west or 5 houses east. My friend sells free range beef that is tender and delicious. Now, since it’s not a sin, how could I pass any of this up? Isn’t it like this everywhere, or only in Indiana? 🙂 Lori
 
Veganism is a new-age fad. A hundred years from now it will be seen as that weird phase that some girls passed through after their Wicca phase, but before they grew-up.

Animals are intended to be eaten and man are they delicious. Especially this chicken recipe I have where you “sit” the bird on an open beer bottle as it cooks…man the flavor is the best.
 
Lewlo,

Nope, it’s not just in Indiana—you’ll see the same in my neck of the woods—Minnesota, Wisconsin, the Dakotas…

And hey, I live in the suburbs and yet have a few pet hens which provide us with fresh eggs (as well as keeping the bugs down in the garden). There are plenty of alternatives to factory farming available without having to go to the extreme of supporting PETA or other organizations that give humans and animals “equal rights” and equate butchering chickens to the butchering of Jews in WWll. I know of far too many sentimental but silly types who just LOVE animals, but who really don’t have a lot of time to spare for the plight of their fellow man. To claim that vegan-ism is a morally superior position is ludicrous.
 
I was vegan for years, and vegetarian on and off for many years before that, but I quit the whole thing deliberately for a couple of reasons. First, PETA is very publicly anti-Christian, and I don’t like being associated with a group like that. Second, while there is nothing specifically against vegetarianism in Scripture, and even a little support here and there (Garden of Eden, Daniel), as well as a tradition in some strict religious orders of abstaining from meat, still, many vegetarians, in my experience, tend to blur the distinction between human and animal, raising animals to equality with humans. Human beings are made in the image and likeness of God; animals are not. Humans have a soul; animals are of the earth only. I quit being vegetarian because I don’t want to participate in today’s New Age and anti-Christian culture which not only raises animals to the level of humans, but oftentimes actually shows preference for the animals.
 
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triciafrancess:
Chickens and turkeys are bred to have minimal wings so they can’t fly,
Tricia Frances
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Not in Buffalo they’re not! We like to have chickens with nice big wings. Makes for excellent chicken wings (or Buffalo wings as anyone not from buffalo calls them)
 
Dear Scotty, Please beama mi upa. They’z aint no intelligent lifea down here, or decent food either. Hey Mista’ Keating, do you know where I can get a good plate of Tourmaline Parmesan around here? What about Zinca Cacciatore? Mama Mia! I think I had better food when I was ina the bigga housa.
 
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BigPaulie:
Dear Scotty, Please beama mi upa. They’z aint no intelligent lifea down here, or decent food either. Hey Mista’ Keating, do you know where I can get a good plate of Tourmaline Parmesan around here? What about Zinca Cacciatore? Mama Mia! I think I had better food when I was ina the bigga housa.
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Sorry Paulie, no can do, Tourmaline Parmesan is made with Parmesan, which is an animal derivative. Sorry but you’ll have to eat your tourmaline au naturale. Same goes with Zinc Caccitore, no tomatoes or pasta. Sorry. I have a good recipe for Zinc in Manganese sauce with a side of steamed Cobalt if your interested.
 
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Apologia100:
PETA, isn’t that the bread used to make Gyros?
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don’t be absurd…PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals

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I was intrigued with one of the posted “moral reasons” to be a vegan. If we use this logic or resoning as one of the bases of our way of life, then applying this in other matters, it would seem that we shouldn’t have children either since there are parents that abuse or mistreat their children,or in the extreme kill them.

What about all those bullocks, lambs, turttledoves, etc that were slaugherted to worship our Creator? I heard that they even ate the lambs the night of Passover. The idea of God asking us to use His blessed creation in this way? The horror!

Excuse me for cutting this short, I have to turn the meat on the grill:)
 
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RickT:
I was intrigued with one of the posted “moral reasons” to be a vegan. If we use this logic or resoning as one of the bases of our way of life, then applying this in other matters, it would seem that we shouldn’t have children either since there are parents that abuse or mistreat their children,or in the extreme kill them.

What about all those bullocks, lambs, turttledoves, etc that were slaugherted to worship our Creator? I heard that they even ate the lambs the night of Passover. The idea of God asking us to use His blessed creation in this way? The horror!

Excuse me for cutting this short, I have to turn the meat on the grill:)
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RickT,
Good points. Not to mention the fact that God is also a meat eater. That is Jesus was a jew and they ate lamb on the night of Passover, so for 33 years our Lord ate meat at least once a year.

I can understand some of the arguements that are raised, the treatment of the animals and how they are raised, but I can not buy any theological/moral issues.

Mainly for the fact that our Lord was a meat eater.
 
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ByzCath:
RickT,
Good points. Not to mention the fact that God is also a meat eater. That is Jesus was a jew and they ate lamb on the night of Passover, so for 33 years our Lord ate meat at least once a year.

I can understand some of the arguements that are raised, the treatment of the animals and how they are raised, but I can not buy any theological/moral issues.

Mainly for the fact that our Lord was a meat eater.
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Can you please stop skewing this conversation with the facts please.
 
Apologia, you took the words right out of my mouth—just stop it with the facts, people! Don’t you see that it doesn’t matter what the facts are, it’s how I FEEL that matters! Stop it! Stop it!!
 
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Almeria:
I’m not a vegetarian, and I doubt I ever could be. My best friend is, though, and I totally understand her reasons. When she was a child, her grandpa had a farm. She named a new calf when she was 4 or so. Several years later, after watching the cow grow up, she was sitting down to a steak dinner at grandpa’s farm when she realized she didn’t see Bessie in the barn. She hasn’t eaten meat since.
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I would suspect this is the exception rather than the rule – if everyone who grew up on a farm was turned off to meat, there would be few farmers left. I would think most children would just learn that some farm animals get eaten when they grow up.
 
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