Why is Jesus never on the cross in a Protestant church?

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2ndGen said:
A lot of Christians forget that…that He was a Jew and a practicing Jew and a Jewish Priest on top of all of that. I think that to understand Judaism would mean to understand Christianity better.

I saw a special on PBS that showed the transition from Judaism for the first Christians (who were mostly Jews).

Everything we do (the use of candles, the use of the altar, the tabernacle, the use of bread, etc…) is based on Jewish practices. Baptism replaced circumsicion. Christ replaced animal sacrifices. It was a great documentary.
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It is very important for us as Christians to understand our heritage. I reflect on that daily, often.
 
Ghoti said:
I skimmed the thread – didn’t go thru all 12 pages :rolleyes: – but it seems to be that for some it’s a lot of “Risen Christ!” “Suffering Christ!” “Risen Christ!” “Suffering Christ!” It’s like an ecumenical Bud Light commercial.
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1 Cor 2:2, “For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.”
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WOW! :clapping: That’s good enough for me!

People seem to forget how many Christians world-wide are illiterate or do not have access to a Bible.

Jesus Christ and Him crucified is the gospel that even the illiterate can see and hear

How bloody, some people whine; but the crucifix is an indelible sight in the eyes and minds of little ones around the world.
 
Namesake said:
It is very important for us as Christians to understand our heritage. I reflect on that daily, often.
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I’ve been in a Temple.

I’ve felt God there.

I’ve been in a Mosque.

I’ve felt God there.

I’ve been in various Protestant Churches, but I never felt God there…

…that is, until the church’s members arrived.

“Then” I felt God there. 🙂
 
graceandglory said:
People seem to forget how many Christians world-wide are illiterate or do not have access to a Bible.

Jesus Christ and Him crucified is the gospel that even the illiterate can see and hear.
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That is how Christian artwork began. All the paintigs and sculptures and statues and engravings that are sorely criticized today by some were developed to help those Christians that couldn’t read (which in the middle ages was most of the world).

Only the wealthy could afford an education and were literate. Reading was considered a luxury, a privilige. Owning a Bible was for the wealthy. It took years just to produce one copy…years and a lot of money.

But The Church commissioned the world’s greatest artists to tranform The Word of God into pictures and scenes.

Michaelangelo, DaVinci…The YouTubers of their day.
 
2ndGen said:
I’ve been in a Temple.

I’ve felt God there.

I’ve been in a Mosque.

I’ve felt God there.

I’ve been in various Protestant Churches, but I never felt God there…

…that is, until the church’s members arrived.

“Then” I felt God there. :)/QUOTE

Your vicious anti-protestantism isn’t attractive at all. Try another way maybe.
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2ndGen said:
I’ve been in a Temple.

I’ve felt God there.

**I’ve been in a Mosque. **
I’ve felt God there.

I’ve been in various Protestant Churches, but I never felt God there…

…that is, until the church’s members arrived.

“Then” I felt God there. 🙂
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What exactly in the mosque make you “feel” God?

What do you mean by “temple”?
 
Pwrlftr said:
I find it absolutely fascinating that you can “feel” God in a pagan place of worship but not in a Christian church.
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Well, to me, wharehouses and former furniture stores and converted movie theaters don’t have God in them (until two or more Christians are there).
 
Namesake said:
2ndGen;3297047:
I’ve been in a Temple.

I’ve felt God there.

I’ve been in a Mosque.

I’ve felt God there.

I’ve been in various Protestant Churches, but I never felt God there…

…that is, until the church’s members arrived.

“Then” I felt God there. 🙂
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How is not feeling God in a multi-use secular unconsecrated building anti-Protestant?

I might be anti-multi-use secular unconsecrated building, but not anti-Protestant Christian.
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2ndGen said:
It was this overwhelming presence. It felt like God. It was empty (physically), but full of God.

Synagogue.
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I can not even begin to describe how interesting to me it is that you “feel” God in a mosque and at a synagogue.

One a pagan religion who doesn’t even believe in the same God we profess and the other a religion who denies the both Jesus and the Trinity but yet you can feel God where they worship.

But of course can’t “feel” God in a non-Catholic church.
 
Pwrlftr said:
I find it absolutely fascinating that you can “feel” God in a pagan place of worship but not in a Christian church.
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I could feel God presence in a strip club. Of course it would be the Holy Spirit convicting me;)
 
1 Corinthians 15:13-14 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain.

Let us not forget that without the resurrection our faith is in vain. If I choose to not have the corpus on the cross I wouldn’t think it should bother anyone other than the most bigotted of Catholics.
 
Pwrlftr said:
and the other a religion who denies the both Jesus and the Trinity but yet you can feel God where they worship.

But of course can’t “feel” God in a non-Catholic church.
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You would not be a Christian if it were not for the Jewish religion as well as Catholics.
 
Ghoti said:
I skimmed the thread – didn’t go thru all 12 pages :rolleyes: – but it seems to be that for some it’s a lot of “Risen Christ!” “Suffering Christ!” “Risen Christ!” “Suffering Christ!” It’s like an ecumenical Bud Light commercial.

I have a Crucifix in my room, as well as one on the end of my Rosary. I have an Infant of Prague statue, and a Baby Jesus in my creche. I have a Sacred Heart “I am Catholic, in case of accident kindly call a priest, preferably a Jesuit who’s also an MD” card, and a picture of the Agony in the Garden in my side table. One of the churches I used to attend had a Triumphant Christ in front of a Cross as a crucifix; another I went to had a life-size statue of “The Redeemer in Death” under the altar.

Soooo…which Christ do I worship?
  • I worship the I AM who was before Abraham
  • I worship the Word made flesh, who dwelt among us
  • I worship the Baby who was laid to sleep in a trough
  • I worship the Child refugee from a vengeful king
  • I worship the Man who was friends with labourers, fisherman, tax collectors, and prostitutes
  • I worship the Man who kicked butt in the Temple and wept outside a friend’s tomb
  • I worship the King who rode a donkey and wore a crown of thorns
  • I worship the Man who still loved his friends, even when they doubted Him, or denied Him, or eventually deserted Him
  • I worship Him who forgave those that brutally beat, whipped, tortured, humiliated and crucified Him, yet who, before He died, remembered to make sure someone took care of His mother
  • I worship Him who forgave the dying bandit, because he repented
  • I worship the Man who suffered on the cross for my sake, even though I don’t bloody well deserve it
  • I worship Him who died, was buried, and descended into Hell
  • I worship Him who rose from the dead three days later
  • I worship Him who ascended into heaven and sits at His Father’s right hand
Now…if any one of you artistic types can make me a nice statue that renders all of that in one go, great; if not, well, we’ll have to make do with one at a time to symbolize the whole, eh?

And I haven’t even mentioned ΙΧΘΥΣ, either.😃

Peace
  • John
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This is neet I need to get more of this myself.
I want to let people know where I stand in my faith because I don’t want to hide things and then when I am dead and gone and then they find something and say oh I didn’t know she was a catholic?
I don’t want to leave anyone questioning, what Church did she attend or whether to call a priest or who.
 
2ndGen said:
Pagan?

Muslims worship other gods?

They are monotheists.

:confused:
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I mis-used “pagan” but let’s not forget that Islam is fundamentally and irreconcilably opposed to Christianity. Islam teaches that Jesus Christ was a mere man–a prophet, and not God incarnate. Islam also denies that Jesus died on a cross. Obviously, if Christ did not die on the cross, He did not have to rise from the dead; so Islam denies the resurrection, too.

Much more could be said, but clearly, Islam and Christianity are mutually exclusive. Both claim to be the only true way to God. Both cannot be right.
 
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