Why is the Catholic Church hated so much?

[JustaServant]

Jusstaserva,
I’ve given up on quoting so extensively to Protestants[fundamentalist evangelists] because if you’re not one of their own members there is no way you could quote the bible correctly. Just ask them. They’ll twist everything you say… The sad part is that Catholics fall for it all the time. When they want to have a bible study with you, it’s not that they want to study with you, they want to convince you you’re wrong because it’s obvious Catholics don’t know the bible and therefore to not know Christ. Whether they mean it or not, they offend us, Catholics, even when we hold bible degrees and such. Best answer is to pray for them. Pray that we learn to be charitable in spite of their offenses. I’m watching “The God Who Wasn’t There,” a very offensive movie trying to tell us we’re all fools. But most of it’s not even accurate. We, Christians, need to stand together and stand strong against the continued attack on God.

I just wanted to tackle those three. I’ll let you pros handle the others.

 

[Jack_Bauer]

ignorance and lies fed to them by their preachers or parents or other relatives, such as Catholics worship Mary or Catholics don’t worship Jesus…where do they get that idea?

if they would attend just ONE Mass…like Scott Hahn did before he became Catholic, they would see that many things from the Mass are biblical. We have readings from scripture including a psalm. Scott Hahn was amazed and he opened his bible and found things that were going on DURING MASS that were seemingly from Revelation…like the words ‘Lamb of God’.

GreggAlvarez, that site you posted is horrible! The owner claims that the divine mercy image has a satanic image (illuminati pyramid I think?) And disses Narnia because of the fantasy creatures like Fauns, etc.

Scott Hahn was primed for attending the mass. Most Protestants aren’t or won’t understand that it’s scriptural. They’ll believe we made it up. Scott Hahn is a deeply religious man that by the time he attended the mass was already teaching covenant theology and was very grounded in scripture. He was the words from the bible pop out to him. It was obvious to him, as it is to those of us with a strong bible background. Not just bits and pieces of scripture here and there, but the entire bible. No doubt the Holy Spirit worked in him.

The more I studied scripture as a Protestant, the more I realized I made a huge booboo by leaving the Catholic Church. I chose not to hate it, but initially thought they were simply misguided. Needless to say I’ve been eating crow ever since. It wasn’t that I hated the Catholic Church but that the Catholics didn’t even believe in what the Church teaches. I see that this continues, unfortunately, as I was taught in RCIA. I’m always amazed at the level of dissent allowed to continue. It’s blatant denial of Christ when you deny the teachings as a Catholic. I believe the hatred is drawn from ignorance, not malice.

 

[Jack_Bauer]

I just wanted to tackle those three. I’ll let you pros handle the others.

No, You’re doing a good job showing others that Catholics aren’t ignorant of scripture. But as I said, many, if not most, just will never accept that a Catholic knows scripture as well as their preacher or their grandma or grandpa… It’s rather humorous to me. It’s like my children don’t believe I can do things they’re used to their mother doing. After being home for a year and a half, they’re beginning to call me “mom” by mistake. Insulting? No way! In fact, it’s the highest honor a man can receive from his children…Mom Status!

 

[wisdomseeker]

What is sad is the fact that Anti-Catholics like newcreation cannot even see how they offend others by what they say. I had an old world aunt once who would use the ‘n’ word all the time around black folks and could not for the life of her understand why they were upset.

C’mon newcreation, come out and play, we won’t bite.

What is even sadder is the fact that they protestants call themselves saints. When they are not even in the Holy Church of God. We Catholics dont dare to call ourselves Saints.

 

[rbarcia]

This is just a thread to make the catholic church feel like it is so martyred. Please, the only hatred maybe is from catholics who spend all day debating in this forum.

 

[wisdomseeker]

What is sad is the fact that Anti-Catholics like newcreation cannot even see how they offend others by what they say. I had an old world aunt once who would use the ‘n’ word all the time around black folks and could not for the life of her understand why they were upset.

C’mon newcreation, come out and play, we won’t bite.

If Catholics were to worry about these infamous lies against them, we’re no longer here. Catholics have endured much more than that so this is nothing comparing with being fed to the lions and haver their heads cutoff and dragged alive throught the streets of London while the insides were coming out while they watched rejoiced.
Frankly I dont give these people a time of the day. I dont listen to them period. I just dust the sand of my sandals and move on.

 

[Kaninchen]

This is just a thread to make the catholic church feel like it is so martyred. Please, the only hatred maybe is from catholics who spend all day debating in this forum.

I don’t know, it’s nice to see people in a quiet, reflective mood sometimes.

 

[pablope]

As a former Catholic - born in 1963, Catholic gradeschool, high school and nursing school (2 years) -. God calls us to love our enemy, which includes those who teach another gospel other than that of the 4 Gospels and all of the epistles, and unfortunately there are many examples of false teachings in the Catholic church. Following are a few examples :

(4) the term “Holy Father” is reserved for God the Father ONLY;

For His Glory!!!

This thread should answer this: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=615735

Excerpts:

1. Acts 7:2 - Where Stephen refers to “father Abraham”

and

1. Roman 9:10 - Where Paul refers to “our father Isaac”

and of course the most famous verse

1. 1 Cor. 4:14-15 - “I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.”

Additioanlly, Matt. 23:8–10 (where this comes from) also says to call no man “rabbi” (which translates “teacher”) or “master.” Yet, in 1 Tim 2:7 Paul says this:
“For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle . . . a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.” And then he does it again in 2 Tim 1:11, “For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher.”

Matt 23, v 9 only…9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.

But later in the same chapter, Jesus says this:

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and garnish the tombs of the righteous,

30 and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we should not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

31 Wherefore ye witness to yourselves, that ye are sons of them that slew the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

Ask you friend this…Was Jesus contradicting Himself when He refers to fathers again later in the chapter?

And here in Mark 11, Jesus hears crowd saying this, but He does not stop them:

9 And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:

10 Blessed is the kingdom that cometh, the kingdom of our father David: Hosanna in the highest.

From:fisheaters.com/callingmenfather.html

OK, so what’s He saying here? What’s His point? He is admonishing those who would raise themselves up as “holier than thou,” are spiritually prideful, and boasters. He is saying that we are not to put any man, including ourselves, including the Pope, above God, simple as that. He is not saying that we are not to literally ever call a man father or rabbi or teacher or master; to believe otherwise is to call Him a liar because He Himself calls people father, in both the physical and spiritual sense (in that same chapter, even, in Mark 7, Mark 10, Mark 13, Luke 6, etc.) and doesn’t admonish those who refer to “our father David” as they greet Him during His triumphant entry into Jerusalem. The four evangelists speak the same way, Christ’s Mother speaks the same way, as does Paul who refers numerous times to our “father Abraham.”

So, decide: was Jesus being figurative in Matthew 23:1-12 and making a point about the spiritually prideful and those who are impressed by them – or did He contradict Himself when He went on to refer to people as “fathers” in that very same chapter? Was He being literal or were the evangelists correct in referring to both physical and spiritual fathers? Is it OK to consider the presbyters “fathers” or were Paul and the other priests making a big mistake?

 

[Jack_Bauer]

What is even sadder is the fact that they protestants call themselves saints. When they are not even in the Holy Church of God. We Catholics dont dare to call ourselves Saints.

All baptized are added to the Lord’s number, however validly baptized people have free will. Which is worst, being Protestant or a murder? I think the answer is obvious. Therefore we should treat Protestants like brothers and sisters but realize that they are separated brethren. And the Church of Christ, Catholic, does teach that all the baptized are “saints”. You and me, are saints. We are holy people called by God to eveangelize. How we go about it or not, causes us to either be true to the name or not. Once we are received in heaven, assuming, we will gain a crown and be elevated to “Saint”. Using the upper case and lower case signifies that we are trying to be saints ore have already reached it. Those that break from God’s grace, I believe they have broken the holiness of their calling. Should we still refer to each other as a saint? I believe we should, but with the clarification of what it really means - short of being “Saints”…

 

[tbcrawford]

Sadly due to the actions of some members of the church (ie some clergy who have been involved in abusing children) it has brought scandal and disrepute to our church.What has not helped, also is the attitude of the church in dealing with these atrocities.The world may see the catholic church in a poor light due to a few members who have committed grave offences and not seen justice applied to the perpetrators.

For us as catholics this is a very tough subject to deal with.It is right we should strive to let the world know how ashamed and appalled we are at the abuse that has happened and will work to make sure our church brings the full force of the law upon those who commit these crimes.We should seek to let the world know and see our love and care for the victims many who have grown into damaged adults who need love and support.

May God bless us all and guide us in our every action as we strive to show God’s love for all His children and bring them to know His Holy Church.I can only imagine the deep agony Our Lord suffers seeing this happen to His church.

 

[kykid]

I entered the Church through the RCIA process in 1991.

My family, which were members in the Baptist church, did not approve of my decision, but blessed me with their attendance at my baptism at the Easter Vigil. My father, however, has never approved and never fails to let me know that he disapproves.

He is a member of a very fundamentalist sect that believes that Christians should worship on the Sabbath like people of the Jewish faith. Anybody who believes otherwise is misled and headed for hell because they do not obey the 4th commandment.

I have talked with my dad until I am blue in the face, but he refuses to budge, to accept my decision and be at peace with it. I have tried everything to get my dad to see the error of his ways to no avail. He sincerely believes that anybody who belongs to a Church that worships on Sunday is mislead and its members will burn in hell. And of all churches, he feels that the Catholic Church deserves special wrath because, in his words “they have changed times and seasons”, whatever that means.

I have finally come to the conclusion that it is just a matter of ignorance that this type of attitude exists about the Church, and nothing more. This is the work of Satan, I am sure.

 

[oneofmany]

The Catholic Church is teaching truth and like the movie line says----“you can’t handle the truth.”

I remember one site I go to was on religion and I posted that the worse thing was eternal damnation and one person said that was mean to say. I didn’t reply but I thought, I wonder how she felt after being told we all die someday.

Is it nice to hide from the truth when it is a hard fact so I guess it is easier to say, no one has the truth. The church says it has the truth and when it is hard to accept they reject it. Like killing the messenger.,

 

[saribee]

I have just started RCIA and the most common question/accusation I get is about how Catholics pray to the saints and worship Mary. Ugh. I don’t know enough to defend every question I get, but I can actually explain this one.

Others have issues with how they cannot receive communion in a Catholic church. I grew up Protestant and it seems like I was taught that communion is a means for church unity, while the Catholic church sees unity as the end.

To my friends who only like church is it has cool music, they can’t fathom why I would want to be in such a traditional church of Mary worshipers.

 

[wisdomseeker]

I have just started RCIA and the most common question/accusation I get is about how Catholics pray to the saints and worship Mary. Ugh. I don’t know enough to defend every question I get, but I can actually explain this one.

Others have issues with how they cannot receive communion in a Catholic church. I grew up Protestant and it seems like I was taught that communion is a means for church unity, while the Catholic church sees unity as the end.

To my friends who only like church is it has cool music, they can’t fathom why I would want to be in such a traditional church of Mary worshipers.

 

[wisdomseeker]

I have just started RCIA and the most common question/accusation I get is about how Catholics pray to the saints and worship Mary. Ugh. I don’t know enough to defend every question I get, but I can actually explain this one.

Others have issues with how they cannot receive communion in a Catholic church. I grew up Protestant and it seems like I was taught that communion is a means for church unity, while the Catholic church sees unity as the end.

To my friends who only like church is it has cool music, they can’t fathom why I would want to be in such a traditional church of Mary worshipers.

Here is something to help you.
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[mark_a]

I have come across this general sentiment of hostility from a variety of people- . . . .

Why?

Every serious Christian will sooner or later have to confront the historical fact that the Catholic Church has been here from the git-go. If you can’t join her, it only makes sense that they hate her.

They are wannabes.

It’s tough bein’ the big dawg!

 

[jmoneyideas]

I have just started RCIA and the most common question/accusation I get is about how Catholics pray to the saints and worship Mary. Ugh. I don’t know enough to defend every question I get, but I can actually explain this one.

Others have issues with how they cannot receive communion in a Catholic church. I grew up Protestant and it seems like I was taught that communion is a means for church unity, while the Catholic church sees unity as the end.

To my friends who only like church is it has cool music, they can’t fathom why I would want to be in such a traditional church of Mary worshipers.

Ouch I recently left my Non Denom chruch, many of the teaching lead to the same type of anti movement. I sent the pastor a few Fathor Barron Clips just to see how he would react. I must say I was suprised when he was praising some of the clips I sent he even went as far as to say , he liked many of the prayers from the Mysteries ect and he could pray them with a Rosary beed except the parts that Included Mary, he said it simply isn’t biblical. If I am being 100% honest this is what started me looking into the Chruch more and Praying to God for Guidance because deep down I felt a effection for Mary adn what she meant to me and my belief that she is worth more than just virgin that gave birth to the son of GOD. Mary and the Saints are either draw you in like they did me or they are so miss represented they cause resent ment out side of the Catholic Church!

 

[hosemonkey]

It’s Politics that has gotten into the church’s business, not the other way around.

They hate her because she refused to follow the Anglicans and others in proclaiming sin to be acceptable because of the influence of the modernist era! When the West went into the sexual revolution, the societal values were turned upside down, and many succumbed. The church refused and has continued to preach the same message of morality that she preached before the modernist secular-humanist perspective took over the west and the countries modeled after it.

Exactly! And the Church has the audacity to tell the World No! No! to sex outside of marriage, no! to a hedonistic lifestyle, no! to abortion, no! to euthanasia, no! to divorce, no! to all the things that the world loves. we used to have a saying, “The flak is heaviest right over the target.” Satan is threatened by the Church and he reserves his heaviest flak for the Church. We have a high set of standards and the World will always hate us for it.

 

[Jack_Bauer]

Exactly! And the Church has the audacity to tell the World No! No! to sex outside of marriage, no! to a hedonistic lifestyle, no! to abortion, no! to euthanasia, no! to divorce, no! to all the things that the world loves. we used to have a saying, “The flak is heaviest right over the target.” Satan is threatened by the Church and he reserves his heaviest flak for the Church. We have a high set of standards and the World will always hate us for it.

 

[sallybutler]

Like most prejudices, it comes from many different sources.

1. I’ve been taught since I was little that the Catholic Church is evil.
2. All priests are pedophiles
3. The Spanish Inquisition
4. The Church made Frank Sinatra’s children illegitimate when he got an annulment
5. What right does the Church have to tell me how to behave

It is interesting that when almost always, when a person approaches the teachings of the Church with an open mind, they come to the conclusion that the Church is right.

Note I said with an open mind.