Why is the Pope Endorsing Same Sex Unions in Film

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Things were simpler when the Pope was not able to be seen and criticized by the entire Church, and all one had to worry about was their own parish and community.

I think a same sex civil union for protection of inheritance rights or tax benefits is not in and of itself immoral. Same sex marriage is absolutely unacceptable.

I would like to see a quote from Pope Francis that condones homosexual acts, if that’s what we’re going to say he’s done. If there isn’t one, then it would be wise to stop putting words in his mouth.
 
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Let us all be accurate.
This snippet of quote has emerged

Homosexual people have the right to be in a family. They are children of God," Francis said in one of his sit-down interviews for the film
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What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered."

That is it, no more, no less.
We now need context.
for the first quote
Yes all people have the right to be in a family. Yes all people are children of God.
for the second quote
We dont know what Pope Francis means, as there is no more of his conversation, just a cherry picked quote.
 
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What I read was that he supports Civil Unions, not marriage, so that there are still legal protections for things like inheritance, hospital visits, etc. That’s a very humane stance. Sinful or not. We allow “civil unions” for heterosexual couples who live together out of wedlock and no one is protesting that. It’s not really any different. Sexual sin is sexual sin.
 
I gotta say, as a convert of nearly 5 years, that Pope Francis really confuses me, and often. At least what he reportedly says does. Grrrrrr!
 
JayCL said:
What I read was that he supports Civil Unions, not marriage, so that there are still legal protections for things like inheritance, hospital visits, etc. That’s a very humane stance. Sinful or not. We allow “civil unions” for heterosexual couples who live together out of wedlock and no one is protesting that. It’s not really any different. Sexual sin is sexual sin.
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So to clarify you are saying the Pope is speaking on the side of sexual sin?
 
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No, I’m saying he’s speaking on equal protection for same-sex sinners, just like heterosexual sinners have. He’s not picking and choosing which sinners get equal rights before the law. That’s what he’s saying. Homosexuality is a sin. So is living together before marriage. So is overeating. So where are the “anti-living-together-before-marriage” protests? Where are the people in the Church saying that opposite-sex couples who cohabitate should be able to be denied housing, the ability to adopt kids, etc? Where are the anti-gluttony protests outside of all-you-can-eat buffets?
 
Homosexuality is NOT a sin, is what I’ve seen on here. Being Gay is not. Catholics believe only the actions themselves are sinful correct?
 
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No, I’m saying he’s speaking on equal protection for same-sex sinners, just like heterosexual sinners have. He’s not picking and choosing which sinners get equal rights before the law. That’s what he’s saying. Homosexuality is a sin. So is living together before marriage. So is overeating. So where are the “anti-living-together-before-marriage” protests? Where are the people in the Church saying that opposite-sex couples who cohabitate should be able to be denied housing, the ability to adopt kids, etc? Where are the anti-gluttony protests outside of all-you-can-eat buffets?
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I’m fairly certain Christians denounce all sin and do not pick and choose, or at least that’s how it’s supposed to be right? So I still don’t get your point. The pope wants equal protection for all sin???
 
“You people” Wow. Nice.

Yes, I know we Catholics agree that cohabitation/sex before marriage is a sin. But we’re only politically protesting the rights of same-sex sinners, not opposite-sex sinners. I’m trying to underline the hypocrisy. But go ahead and twist my words. Looks great on you.
 
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Homosexuality is NOT a sin, is what I’ve seen on here. Being Gay is not. Catholics believe only the actions themselves are sinful correct?
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It is not a sin, sex outside marriage is the sin. There are two threads going on this now, with absolutely no consideration for context.

Of course homosexual people are Children of God who should be part of families. That statement says nothing of endorsement of homosexual union or marriage. It just give the anti Pope Francis group fodder for calumny.
 
Where is the political group seeking to ban or prohibit all you can eat buffets, dens of gluttony? Where is the political movement to deny straight, unmarried couples the right to adopt, rent, etc? They don’t exist. Pope Francis is looking for equality for all, not just straight folks. You clearly don’t want to see it because LGBT rights are the current favorite thing to try to stop.
 
“The final battle between the Lord and the kingdom of Satan will be about Marriage and the Family.’ Don’t be afraid, because whoever works for the sanctity of Marriage and the Family will always be fought against and opposed in every way, because this is the decisive issue nevertheless, Our Lady has already crushed his head’.”
- Sister Lucia Dos Santos
 
No, the solution is to give everyone equal protection under the law, whether or not we agree with something from a religious standpoint.
 
Show me where the Bible says to legally deny rights to people who don’t live the way you believe is right, please. I’ll wait.
 
JayCL said:
Where is the political group seeking to ban or prohibit all you can eat buffets, dens of gluttony? Where is the political movement to deny straight, unmarried couples the right to adopt, rent, etc? They don’t exist. Pope Francis is looking for equality for all, not just straight folks. You clearly don’t want to see it because LGBT rights are the current favorite thing to try to stop.
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I’m afraid you are in error. As Christians we are to preach the gospel of Christ to all humanity. We do not start rebellions or protests against this sin or the other sin. We reject all sin not the flavor of the month sin. I’m not sure where you are getting your ideas from that Christians should have political groups protesting and holding demonstrations.

LGBTQ or any other sinful organization is to be condemned as much as any other sin.

Soooo you’re still confusing me
 
1 Corinthians 6:9 lumps fornicators (people having sex outside marriage), adulterers (people having sex outside of marriage), among others with “homosexuals”. So right from the Book, straight couples living together are just as condemned as LGBT folks.
 
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