Why is voting for Biden a mortal sin?

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PaulinVA said:
Harry, I disagree with each paragraph. However, we know from past interactions that it would not be fruitful to engage in debate, so I won’t.
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Right you want to “debate” by typing talking points that you restate continually but when it comes to actual events and specifics you beg off with the “won’t be fruitful” trope. It won’t be fruitful for the simple reason that many have lost the capacity to reason from the evidence to a well-grounded conclusion and instead clutch to illusions.

I have never been politically interested and when my daughter told me that Trump had announced his candidancy back in 2014, I laughed. I am Canadian. I wondered how any nation could consider electing a ridiculous celebrity like Trump for president, then the more I seriously followed what was going on the more it became clear that the entire world is in danger from the technocrats and globalist elite. When Trudeau was elected in Canada it was clear that the media was the propaganda arm for globalism and got him elected by manipulation of information. That his many scandals have not brought him down is a testament to how complacent the people are. That is the real danger. The people are being lied to continually and don’t realize it.

Every Dem talking point is transference. Knowing that, listening to the most recent attack on Trump points to precisely what the Dems are doing or covering up. Try to be a tad more skeptical and that might become obvious very quickly.
 
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Shakuhachi said:
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HarryStotle:
mesmerized by leftist talking points
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Left and Right, my friend. Left and Right
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Sure try to convince me by posting another talking point. How about evidence instead?
 
PaulinVA said:
To elect a Republican just for a Supreme also doesn’t make sense, since we’ve had “conservative” courts at various times since Roe
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Of course it matters; to our souls if nothing else. But we have not had truly “conservative” courts until fairly recently.
PaulinVA said:
What’s the legal reasoning to overcome stare decisis ?
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“Stare decisis” is not the bible. Decisions change, and have many times. There are a number of good reasons to overturn Roe, not the least of which is that silly business of trying to make distinctions (actually meaningless) depending on the months of gestation. That was based on a faulty notion of viability and a total ignorance of DNA.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Of course it matters; to our souls if nothing else. But we have not had truly “conservative” courts until fairly recently.
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But the Court doesn’t always rule the way one thinks, so pinning your hopes on the “true” conservative Court seems a stretch. And, as a poster mentioned elsewhere, it would just send it to the states to regulate. Not make illegal, except state by state.
Ridgerunner said:
“Stare decisis” is not the bible.
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No, but you need a good reason. What is it? that there is no right to privacy?
 
HarryStotle said:
Why not? Likely because…
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That is an assumption. I can only speak for myself, but it is usually easy to see when someone will simply rebuff and dismiss every point of evidence. I have made the same mistake when I have spoken of Trump’s integrity, only to have every point dismissed as some sort of clever rhetoric or fake news.

But assume away. That particular matter is not a concern for me.
 
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pnewton said:
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HarryStotle:
Why not? Likely because…
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That is an assumption. I can only speak for myself, but it is usually easy to see when someone will simply rebuff and dismiss every point of evidence. I have made the same mistake when I have spoken of Trump’s integrity, only to have every point dismissed as some sort of clever rhetoric or fake news.

But assume away. That particular matter is not a concern for me.
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Let’s visit a standard “offense” committed by Trump: his observations about women that came to light in the Billy Bush recording.

Notice that Trump is not now promoting that kind of behavior by women, yet a woman who does – Cardi B – is the idol of the left and one of the few given the opportunity to interview Biden in the past few months. I dare you to look up the lyrics to WAP or listen to a recording.

So which is worse, someone who once indulged or committed a particular behavior in the past or supporting a party that is wholeheartedly committed to normalizing such behavior even while hypocritically demonizing others not in their “club” for having indulged in it in the past?

I suppose the option on the table for Trump supporters is choosing between
  1. the fact that he behaved badly in the past but gives no sign that he still behaves that way, or the alternative choice of
  2. an entire progressive movement (the Democrat party) that seeks to make just such behaviour the norm today all while posing with faux outrage against anyone not of their ilk who doesn’t wholeheartedly endorse it today.
For perspective on how to vote, read Wisdom 14 and try to identify where the idolatry is to be found in the world today.
 
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PaulinVA said:
But the Court doesn’t always rule the way one thinks, so pinning your hopes on the “true” conservative Court seems a stretch. And, as a poster mentioned elsewhere, it would just send it to the states to regulate. Not make illegal, except state by state.
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Every increment helps.
PaulinVA said:
No, but you need a good reason. What is it? that there is no right to privacy?
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Perhaps only that there’s no “abortion penumbra”. That’s so crazy overruling it shouldn’t be all that difficult. Perhaps more simple still; that since determining when “humanness” occurs is beyond the competence of the courts, the proper authority in the matter is the legislatures of the various states who at least have the constitutional ability to determine when a killing is unlawful and when it is not.

Or whatever. When overruling something that’s nonsensical, almost anything will do.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Or whatever. When overruling something that’s nonsensical, almost anything will do.
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If it was simple or cut and dried it would have already happened.

Sending to the states is interesting. Those controlled by Republicans have probably done a lot already to curtail abortion.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I don’t think simplicity or complexity was the reason. The Dem party simply believes in abortion.
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What I mean by that is that the ruling for almost 50 years ago. If there was a cogent legal theory test cases would have been found and brought up through the courts. So, it’s not simple.
 
Before I waste any more of my time, is it possible to stipulate to a few items?
  1. Russia is not an ally of the U.S. or any Nato nation. They are not an enemy, but the United States (Nato included) and Russia have competing interests.
  2. As a nation with competing interests, isn’t it more likely than not, that Russia’s interests are not our own?
  3. With different interests, isn’t it prudent to believe that Russia would do anything it could to drive a wedge between the NATO nations?
  4. Russia spreads misinformation on the internet and social media to create chaos among the Western nations.
  5. Russian misinformation may have played a significant role in the Brexit vote in Britain. Russia certainly attempted to interfere.
  6. A bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee released a detailed 1000 page report in mid-August.
  7. Among that Senate Report’s findings were the following:
“The Committee found that Manafort’s presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign.”
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“The Committee found that Manafort’s presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign”
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I believe you indicated that you are a Canadian. Why such a fervent interest in U.S. politics?

I highlighted excerts from the Mueller report, Mueller’s testimony, the Senate Intel report, and other sources.

It’s abject folly to say that there is NO, NONE, ZERO, ZILCH evidence of Russian interference with the 2016 election. The evidence and proof are out there.
 
Boomster1 said:
I believe you indicated that you are a Canadian. Why such a fervent interest in U.S. politics?
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Like it or not, the US is the only national sovereignty with the resources to curtail the socialist/globalist hegemony abetted by the CCP, the globalist technocrats, the political elites, the UN bureaucratsand wealthy oligarchs like Soros and others who view the sovereignty of independent nations as obstacles to their accumulation of wealth.

If the US capitulates, the hope for individual freedoms and rights in countries like Canada will evaporate. As a country, Canada is being slowly gutted economically, culturally and morally. Every human being will inherit the status currently enjoyed by citizens of China if the US falls to socialism.

This point is a segue into answering your concerns about Russia. Russia has a GDP about equal to Italy or a middle-sized EU nation. China is a far bigger threat.

Kissinger pointed out that American foreign policy in the long term should be about making sure Russia and China are not drawn together by common interests against the US.

It was the Obama / Clinton that strengthened Russia’s technological prowess by encouraging US technology companies to participate in the Skolkovo Project. Then when they discovered that appeasing Russia didn’t work to their political advantage they orchestrated the Maidan overthrow of the Russian-backed Ukrainian government.

The entire Russia collusion narrative has been soundly debunked. You just haven’t looked into it sufficiently.

This is not to say Putin can be trusted. He can’t, and Trump has demonstrated he will oppose Putin when and where necessary without pushing Russia closer to the CCP. Watching the mainstream media to better understand foreign policy is like thinking Sesame Street is the last word on mathematics.
 
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Consistent Life Ethics hardly exists among the U.S. population (2016),
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I posted all that because I truly feel homeless. neither republican nor Democratic parties express this view and hardly any 3rd [parties with.
 
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