Why We Need the New Lynching Memorial

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Great, make sure it is on private property.
 
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First there is no institutional racism in this country anywhere. it is illegal for any organization to discriminate
 
It is illegal to discriminate against Blacks and other minorities. It is perfectly legal and encouraged to discriminate against Whites. There is institutional racism. It is just that Whites are the victims.
 
In the U.S.A., if there is institutional racism of which white people are victims, it is surely the most impotent form of racism that has ever existed.
 
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I’d say not getting a job or into a school due to your race is a pretty big deal. Do you disagree? Would you have no problem with a business having a no Blacks need apply policy? Of course not. So it isn’t impotent at all.
 
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I’d say not getting a job or into a school due to your race is a pretty big deal. Do you disagree? Would you have no problem with a business having a no Blacks need apply policy? Of course not. So it isn’t impotent at all.
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White people are doing just fine in the U.S.A. We hold almost all of the political power, and the lion’s share of the wealth.
 
So racial discrimination is OK with you if the group is doing ‘well’? The irony is you’ve divided people by race to come up with your rule. You treat all White people alike. That is of course racist. I mean the guy not getting a job isn’t think, well that is OK, I’m White. No, he is wondering how he is going to pay the bills.
 
Dividing people by race? Give me a break. That was invented by white people. I don’t see widespread discrimination against white people on anywhere near the scale that I still see it against other groups. In fact, I don’t see widespread discrimination against white people, period.
 
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No place has a “no whites need apply” policy, and even schools that have affirmative action policies are still white-majority by far. I don’t think “you didn’t get this position because you are white” is any more right than “you didn’t get this position because you are black,” but I also doubt that the former happens nearly as often as some of us imagine.
 
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So racial discrimination is OK with you if the group is doing ‘well’? The irony is you’ve divided people by race to come up with your rule. You treat all White people alike. That is of course racist. I mean the guy not getting a job isn’t think, well that is OK, I’m White. No, he is wondering how he is going to pay the bills.
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I am entirely unconvinced by all this whining about alleged widespread discrimination against whites. It seems to me to be overwhelmingly about resentment over loss of privileged status, rather than actual discrimination. I am 47 years old, white, and male. I have never once had a reason to suspect that I was the victim of discrimination in employment or acceptance to college or graduate school.
 
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No place has a “no whites need apply” policy, and even schools that have affirmative action policies are still white-majority by far. I don’t think “you didn’t get this position because you are white” is any more right than “you didn’t get this position because you are black,” but I also doubt that the former happens nearly as often as some of us imagine.
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Of course they do when they engage in ‘affirmative action’. If it happens at all isn’t it wrong? Or can I say racism against Blacks is OK because it is infrequent?
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I have never once had a reason to suspect that I was the victim of discrimination in employment or acceptance to college or graduate school.
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So if it hasn’t happened to you you don’t care? Then why do you care about racism against Blacks if you are White?
 
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So if it hasn’t happened to you you don’t care? Then why do you care about racism against Blacks if you are White?
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It’s not that I don’t care because it didn’t happen to me, it’s that I don’t believe it’s a widespread problem. I believe that in this country, people who are white are victims of racial discrimination to a far lesser degree than people who are not white. The status of white people in terms of political power, economic power, and social status convinces me this is the case.
 
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I mean the guy not getting a job isn’t think, well that is OK, I’m White. No, he is wondering how he is going to pay the bills.
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And that puts him in the same position as anyone else who doesn’t get the job. Paying the bills is not unique to white people. Furthermore, I look around at the best-paying jobs, and I see a majority of them being held by white people. I just don’t buy this victimization mentality when it comes to white Americans.
 
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The question isn’t the frequency of racial discrimination. If you believe in racial discrimination, such as affirmative action or quotas, then you believe in racial discrimination. Regardless of whether you believe it good or bad it goes on and is institutionalized.
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I just don’t buy this victimization mentality when it comes to white Americans.
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Got it. Whites are doing good so who cares if individual Whites are hurt. That is just plain simple racism.

By the way Whites are still a majority in this country. It wouldn’t be surprising that they hold a majority of the good jobs. So that justification of yours for racism is meaningless.
 
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By the way Whites are still a majority in this country. It wouldn’t be surprising that they hold a majority of the good jobs. So that justification of yours for racism is meaningless.
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It’s not just that white people hold most of the better jobs, their average household income is vastly higher than that of blacks and Hispanics. Not just a little bit, but around 60% higher. This is the most impotent racism I’ve ever seen or heard of.
 
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This is the most impotent racism I’ve ever seen or heard of.
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So racism for you is just if one group does better than another? So any group doing better than another is racist and any group doing worse is the victim of racism?

Again, this is racist thinking. You literally measure people by their race. You don’t treat them as individuals.
 
Why are you continuing with this, exnihilo? I can’t imagine you actually believe what you’re saying here. Surely this is an exercise in trolling.
 
exnihilo said:
So racism for you is just if one group does better than another? So any group doing better than another is racist and any group doing worse is the victim of racism?

Again, this is racist thinking. You literally measure people by their race. You don’t treat them as individuals.
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In my interactions with individual persons, I certainly do treat them as individuals. However, race plays a powerful role in our society. What is your explanation for why white people-on average-do so much better financially than Blacks or Hispanics?
 
I don’t really appreciate being called a troll. If you want to challenge my ideas then challenge them. Don’t call me names.
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What is your explanation for why white people-on average-do so much better financially than Blacks or Hispanics?
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If you want to discuss that start a thread.
 
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