Why We Need the New Lynching Memorial

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TheAmazingGrace said:
The point of the lynching memorial is not to commemorate everyone who ever fell victim to an angry mob, but specifically those whose murders were racially motivated (which was not the case for most white victims of lynching).
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Nope. The point of it is to commemorate only Black victims of lynching. It specifically excludes White lynchings and minimizes them as not important.
 
Theo520 said:
So it’s not really a lynching memorial and it is racist.
It’s no different than a war memorial of white kids killed by Japs
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If that’s what you think, then you have a very loose definition of “racist,” my friend.
 
exnihilo said:
The point of it is to commemorate only Black victims of lynching.
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No duh, Sherlock. Black Americans were horrifically persecuted in the US for centuries. Having actually studied history and knowing what the enslaved population went through, it’s really hard to muster up sympathy for a white guy who’s going cuckoo over the mere thought of acknowledging their suffering.
 
exnihilo said:
More racism. You don’t care about some people’s thoughts or opinions if you (think) they are White. I’d find it funny that you racists say such things, but you are dangerous.
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I am white, lol.

Also, flagged for personal attacks.
 
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TheAmazingGrace said:
If that’s what you think, then you have a very loose definition of “racist,” my friend.
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I’d say you have a poor application of logic to your thinking.

The analogy with war memorials works well, since the lynching memorial is about racism and it’s victims.
It’s very appropriate to include the handful of white victims that were lynched fighting the battle against racism.
This is not including any person who was lynched for a myriad of reasons, not related to racism

I think excluding these few white victims is as bad as a US war memorial excluding some of the soldiers because of their race.
 
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Theo520 said:
It’s very appropriate to include the handful of white victims that were lynched fighting the battle against racism.
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It’s supposed to be about lynching as it relates specifically to the African American experience. There’s no rule book that says you can’t give special focus to the group that constituted the majority of lynching victims. Maybe in the future we can build more “comprehensive” memorials, though I doubt it would appease the opposition.
 
Also I don’t think the memorial really just honors Blacks who were victims of “racial lynching’. It honors all Blacks who were lynched by assuming every lynching was racially motivated. Of course that can’t be since Whites were also lynched in states where more Blacks were lynched. The memorial conveys the false notion that every lynching of a Black person had a racial component. I’m sure some or even many did. But theirs isn’t really an honest examination of history.
 
We don’t have modern memorials to the ‘White’ experience. There is a rule book and when applied it would preclude White experience memorials.
 
Go read their web page. The only numbers they mention are Black lynchings.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
It’s supposed to be about lynching as it relates specifically to the African American experience. There’s no rule book that says you can’t give special focus to the group that constituted the majority of lynching victims. Maybe in the future we can build more “comprehensive” memorials, though I doubt it would appease the opposition.
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And white people dying to help protect their rights wasn’t part of the battle?
Face it, excluding these participants because of their race does make it racist.
 
Theo520 said:
Face it, excluding these participants because of their race does make it racist.
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It’s not racist: it’s a monument that recognizes one particular facet of African American oppression.

Somehow, I don’t think including white victims would appease you.
 
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It’s the only monument, not one of many. (and long overdue)

It’s as bad as a war memorial that only recognized white deaths on our side in the battle for the pacific. Or if we excluded German americans who fought and died on D-day.
 
Theo520 said:
It’s as bad as a war memorial that only recognized white deaths on our side in the battle for the pacific. Or if we excluded German americans who fought and died on D-day.
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Only in your imagination.
 
Your constant deflection on basic facts is tiring, why can’t you accept that a lynching memorial specific to racism should include all related lynchings.

If you want one just for blacks, that OK, just stop denying that it is racist.
 
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